Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shader organization for 3.0 (was: Goals for the 3.0 release)
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:33 PM, James Turner wrote: Hopefully we'll (soon) be able to suggest land cover updates to fix any areas with these kind of data issues, once the world scenery rebuild completes. Could someone explain what's going on regarding a world scenery rebuild? James' comments (and others I've seen) imply that there's a rebuild being planned for the near future. Could someone tell me what's going on, or point me in the right direction to find out myself? It would be wonderful if (say) we're planning to provide CORINE data for Europe. Thanks, -Stuart -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shader organization for 3.0 (was: Goals for the 3.0 release)
On 7 Jan 2013, at 14:42, Stuart Buchanan stuar...@gmail.com wrote: Could someone explain what's going on regarding a world scenery rebuild? James' comments (and others I've seen) imply that there's a rebuild being planned for the near future. Could someone tell me what's going on, or point me in the right direction to find out myself? It would be wonderful if (say) we're planning to provide CORINE data for Europe. Martin and Pete have the details, but roughly, there is a stable branch of new TerraGear, and Martin is re-building the world-scenery using it. This takes a long time (days, weeks), and when issues are encountered, Pete has to isolate the issue, fix the toolchain, and then Martin has to restart. There's been a couple of iterations of that (I believe), starting in November / December sometime. This is time-consuming but getting back to the point of a reliable tool-chain which can process the entire world-data set without issues (or at least, with issues no worse than the current build!) is an important foundation step. Once we have re-generated the scenery using the new code, other steps such as CORINE and incorporating newer airport data, revising the BTG format, and many other new developments become possible. But until we reach a rough parity with the old toolchain, they need to wait. Again, I'll let Martin and Pete speak as to their exact status. Regards, James -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] fgdata git problem with Socata-ST10 Switch.ac
Hi Emmanuel, For the past few weeks (since about mid Dec I think!) I, and some others, have a problem with the following files in windows - Aircraft/Socata-ST10/Models/Interior/Panel/Instruments/Switch/Switch.ac Aircraft/Socata-ST10/Models/Interior/Panel/Instruments/Switch/switch.ac There are TWO such files 'Switch.ac' and 'switch.ac', which of course are the SAME file in Windows, and causes a git status problem... If BOTH files are needed, could one be re-named to some non- conflicting name... Or, if only one is required, could the other be deleted. For windows compatibility it is NOT possible to have two files of the same name, only changing case... and stated, please rename, or delete one Thanks... Regards, Geoff. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata git problem with Socata-ST10 Switch.ac
On 7 Jan 2013, at 16:06, Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info wrote: For the past few weeks (since about mid Dec I think!) I, and some others, have a problem with the following files in windows - Aircraft/Socata-ST10/Models/Interior/Panel/Instruments/Switch/Switch.ac Aircraft/Socata-ST10/Models/Interior/Panel/Instruments/Switch/switch.ac There are TWO such files 'Switch.ac' and 'switch.ac', which of course are the SAME file in Windows, and causes a git status problem... If BOTH files are needed, could one be re-named to some non- conflicting name... Or, if only one is required, could the other be deleted. Mac isn't very happy about this either. (for me, with my case-preserving-but-insensitive-FS) James -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata git problem with Socata-ST10 Switch.ac
The problem is that the next one to commit with a misaligned case will create a new duplicate, i suspect. I imagine one has to be elected as the right one, and then all contributors should align themselves to that. Personally I'd delete both and replace them with a new filename. From: zakal...@mac.com Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:49:18 + To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata git problem with Socata-ST10 Switch.ac On 7 Jan 2013, at 16:06, Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info wrote:For the past few weeks (since about mid Dec I think!) I, and some others, have a problem with the following files in windows -Aircraft/Socata-ST10/Models/Interior/Panel/Instruments/Switch/Switch.acAircraft/Socata-ST10/Models/Interior/Panel/Instruments/Switch/switch.acThere are TWO such files 'Switch.ac' and 'switch.ac', which of course are the SAME file in Windows, and causes a git status problem...If BOTH files are needed, could one be re-named to some non-conflicting name...Or, if only one is required, could the other be deleted. Mac isn't very happy about this either. (for me, with my case-preserving-but-insensitive-FS) James -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata git problem with Socata-ST10 Switch.ac
On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 16:49 +, James Turner wrote: On 7 Jan 2013, at 16:06, Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info wrote: There are TWO such files 'Switch.ac' and 'switch.ac', which of course are the SAME file in Windows, and causes a git status problem... Mac isn't very happy about this either. (for me, with my case-preserving-but-insensitive-FS) James Hi Emmanuel, Just to try to help a little more, a quick grep in linux shows me only Switch.ac is referenced in the xml... Maybe switch.ac should/could be removed/deleted? Regards, Geoff. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 81, Issue 2
Le 07/01/2013 18:07, flightgear-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net a écrit : Message: 13 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:06:35 +0100 From: Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info Subject: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata git problem with Socata-ST10 Switch.ac To: bhfx2...@sina.com, FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: 1357574795.2456.4.camel@DELL02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Emmanuel, Hi Geoff For the past few weeks (since about mid Dec I think!) I, and some others, have a problem with the following files in windows - Aircraft/Socata-ST10/Models/Interior/Panel/Instruments/Switch/Switch.ac Aircraft/Socata-ST10/Models/Interior/Panel/Instruments/Switch/switch.ac There are TWO such files 'Switch.ac' and 'switch.ac', which of course are the SAME file in Windows, and causes a git status problem... Argh ! Damned ! Shame on me :( Finally, the real problem is that there are still people for to use this unhappiness windows. And sometimes talented people that improve aircraft of my hangar :) When I worked on the ST10 I worked also the Breda BZ 308, the Westland Wirlwind, the Fairey Gannet, the Pilatus PC12 and Focke Wulf Ente F19. I'm sorry I missed one file in the middle of all this :( I try to be more careful next time :) Just a note though. I do not think the devel list is really designed for this kind of problem. A direct email aurrait had the same result without disturbing the developers. By cons, if it can open the eyes of undefined users. Filesystems 30 year old have more reason to exist. And it might be time for everyone to leave Windows (and thousands of problems with it) utliser finally a real OS worthy of the name. The world would surely be more enjoyable lol Regards Emmanuel -- BARANGER Emmanuel http://helijah.free.fr http://embaranger.free.fr -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata git problem with Socata-ST10 Switch.ac
On Mon, 2013-01-07 at 19:01 +0100, BARANGER Emmanuel wrote: Le 07/01/2013 18:07, flightgear-devel-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net a There are TWO such files 'Switch.ac' and 'switch.ac', which of course are the SAME file in Windows, and causes a git status problem... Argh ! Damned ! Shame on me :( Hi Emmanuel, Thanks for the QUICK fix ;=)) You correctly deleted switch.ac, but the commit comment says the opposite, but no problem! And for those windows fans, after the git pull to get this fix, you may still have to do - git checkout -- Aircraft\...\Switch.ac using the full path of course... to get back a clean working directory... And Emmanuel, I will try to ignore your provocative statements about windows... I guess every OS has it lovers and haters, and certainly each OS has its particular foible ;=)) Perhaps to some diversity is what makes the world more enjoyable LOL. And yes, I thought about a direct email blip, but it is good to remind ALL developers now and then there are still many among us using windows, with PLEASURE and much happiness ;=)) Again, thanks for the 'fix'. I do understand it was just a tiny error in amongst the MANY aircraft you have a hand in... Regards, Geoff. -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata git problem with Socata-ST10 Switch.ac
Hi Geoff, There are TWO such files 'Switch.ac' and 'switch.ac', which of course are the SAME file in Windows, and causes a git status problem... Added a note about this to the gitiquette. Feel free to improve/extend with whatever bad Git behaviour you encountered in the past ;-) http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Git:_gitiquette Cheers, Gijs -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata Commit c8a69dffd49a298e01c0e0e1320f4a1d49a0bca4
Hi Emmanuel, may I remind you that the release deadline is little more than a week away and that this license violation (see below) is still in Git? Could you please cooperate with George to get the license sorted out? Else we'll have to remove it from Git before the freeze. (actually we should already, but I guess the rest of us was kind enough to give you some time to fix the issue; please use that time). Cheers, Gijs From: emili...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:51:50 +0200 Subject: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata Commit c8a69dffd49a298e01c0e0e1320f4a1d49a0bca4 The DR400 Guide (Aircraft/DR400/DR400 Guide.pdf) commited in this has a non-GPL compatible license (All rights reserved). I think this situation needs to be fixed (either the guide removed, or a proper GPL version of the guide is pushed) I think it would be a good idea if contributors would check more thoroughly the licenses of third party material commited. Relevant links: https://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/blobs/master/Aircraft/DR400/DR400 Guide.pdf http://flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4p=172822#p172818 -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] The state of Wayland and Flightgear
Flightgear does not support Wayland yet. It would be neat, as less cruft in the render system (no networking is included with Wayland, whereas it is with X) means higher FPS, as does more graphics memory available (shut down X first you know!) It DOES run under Wayland, with the Xwayland extension. It is so slow I did not bother taking off, averaging at less than 1 fps. From wayland.freedesktop.org: Wayland is a protocol for a compositor to talk to its clients as well as a C library implementation of that protocol. The compositor can be a standalone display server running on Linux kernel modesetting and evdev input devices, an X application, or a wayland client itself. The clients can be traditional applications, X servers (rootless or fullscreen) or other display servers. Part of the Wayland project is also the Weston reference implementation of a Wayland compositor. Weston can run as an X client or under Linux KMS and ships with a few demo clients. The Weston compositor is a minimal and fast compositor and is suitable for many embedded and mobile use cases. -- 'We may not be Anonymous, for you can track our eMail. But we are soon to be legion, for we do not want censorship.' -- Master SQL Server Development, Administration, T-SQL, SSAS, SSIS, SSRS and more. Get SQL Server skills now (including 2012) with LearnDevNow - 200+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only - learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122512 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
