Re: [Flightgear-devel] Checklists enhancement
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Alan Teederwrote: Is the intention to make tutorials easier to compose, or is it to replace them? Easier to compose. The tutorial system is much richer than the checklists, for example it supports specific error conditions, audio, and multiple messages. At the moment, checklist.nas fails at line 6 – presumably because my aircraft doe not yet have a checklist. Now fixed. Thanks for the report. -Stuart -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Checklists enhancement
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Gijs de Rooy wrote: one request I would like to place is to automatically spread the checklist over multiple pages if it gets longer than, say 20 lines. Especially the complex birds tend to have long checklists ;-) That's a bit tricky to do within the GUI, and the split would be quite arbitrary. I would think it better for aircraft maintainers to split the checklists themselves. That way they can split them at a suitable point. -Stuart -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Checklists enhancement
This seems a good idea. Is the intention to make tutorials easier to compose, or is it to replace them? At the moment, checklist.nas fails at line 6 – presumably because my aircraft doe not yet have a checklist. If my assumption is correct then the code should have a test to allow it as most aircraft are (and probably will remain) like this - or perhaps a low level warning should be issued to alert the aircraft maintainer. Alan From: Gijs de Rooy Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:28 PM To: FlightGear Development list Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Checklists enhancement Hi Stuart, one request I would like to place is to automatically spread the checklist over multiple pages if it gets longer than, say 20 lines. Especially the complex birds tend to have long checklists ;-) Cheers, Gijs -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Checklists enhancement
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:41 PM, James Turner wrote: I'm thinking of combining this with the tutorial system so you can have a virtual co-pilot go through the checklist, calling out the items for you to complete. I'd be interested to hear if those who like flying heavy iron think this would be a useful function. Categorically yes - the checklists are already nice for the 737NG, and the big iron has far greater need for the tutorials - starting the Connie or similar is quite some work :) This is now added. Tutorials are now generated for all checklists at runtime. They are pretty basic, but it's a nice freebie. One future enhancement i've just thought off might be to enhance the checklist so that an item can have a marker associated with it as we have with tutorials. A user could then click on a checklist item to have the appropriate cockpit control highlighted. This further blurs the line between the checklist and tutorial functions, but users might find the self-pacing aspect of checklists easier to use than the forced pace of the tutorial. Useful? Taking things a bit too far? -Stuart -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Checklists enhancement
Hi Stuart, one request I would like to place is to automatically spread the checklist over multiple pages if it gets longer than, say 20 lines. Especially the complex birds tend to have long checklists ;-) Cheers, Gijs -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Checklists enhancement
Hi Guys, Just a quick note to mention that I pushed a change to the checklists function last night that allows you to add condition blocks to checklist items to indicate when the checklist item is complete. If a condition block exists for an item, it's displayed in green when evaluated to true, and yellow otherwise. This provides the user with some feedback that they've completed the checklist item successfully. Documentation is available under Docs/README.checklists, the wiki (http://wiki.flightgear.org/Aircraft_Checklists). The c172p contains a number of examples. I'm thinking of combining this with the tutorial system so you can have a virtual co-pilot go through the checklist, calling out the items for you to complete. I'd be interested to hear if those who like flying heavy iron think this would be a useful function. -Stuart -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Checklists enhancement
On 30 Jan 2013, at 13:04, Stuart Buchanan stuar...@gmail.com wrote: Just a quick note to mention that I pushed a change to the checklists function last night that allows you to add condition blocks to checklist items to indicate when the checklist item is complete. If a condition block exists for an item, it's displayed in green when evaluated to true, and yellow otherwise. This provides the user with some feedback that they've completed the checklist item successfully. Documentation is available under Docs/README.checklists, the wiki (http://wiki.flightgear.org/Aircraft_Checklists). The c172p contains a number of examples. I'm thinking of combining this with the tutorial system so you can have a virtual co-pilot go through the checklist, calling out the items for you to complete. I'd be interested to hear if those who like flying heavy iron think this would be a useful function. Categorically yes - the checklists are already nice for the 737NG, and the big iron has far greater need for the tutorials - starting the Connie or similar is quite some work :) James -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
