Re: [Flightgear-devel] Password SOMETIMES required

2010-03-03 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 3/3/10 5:16 PM, Curtis Olson wrote:
> Proftpd has the ability to limit the number of connections from any single
> host.  Otherwise one person often ends up grabbing all the available
> download slots.  Anyone want to look into a torrent?  Is there an easy
> recipe for setting one up?  What's the bandwidth required to seed it?

I am no expert on this at all, I haven't even created a seed yet. I 
suppose I am a leech but I browsed the web for a short while and came up 
with these suggestions:

1) Urgently, someone who has a decent upload speed and has his computer 
on-line 24/7 could seed the packages and publish them on fg web site and 
torrent tracker sites ... after reasonable time there would be enough 
copies available. Assuming that there are not too many leeches I don't 
think bandwidth is an issue.

2) Maybe web seeding could solve the problem? 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_%28protocol%29#Web_seeding

3) Or maybe one of the current ftp site maintainers could utilize 
http://www.torrentflux.com/ which may help?

4) There are seed boxes that can be used for a cost, 
http://filesharefreak.com/2009/01/15/10-really-cheap-seedboxes-that-anyone-can-afford/

As I understand the problem for fg is that we cannot rely on someone 
seeding just to be nice, it must be a more central source. Naively I 
think this is accomplished by setting up a tracker for the fg torrents 
only (or use a public tracker) and providing a seed that is always 
online. This would guarantee the availability (avoid the swarm to die 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_%28protocol%29#The_leech_problem) of 
the packages but benefit from other peers during peak traffic. I think 
this is something that should be set up by the current bandwidth 
providers. They would benefit from the set up also.

Surely, there must be someone among the list readers who knows more 
about these things?


Jari

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Password SOMETIMES required

2010-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote:

> Proftpd has the ability to limit the number of connections from any single
> host.

Yup, "MaxClientsPerHost" works pretty well as a 'general' rule, but
still doesn't yield the desired effect because the client hostname/IP
verification calls _after_ the initial connection has been accepted. In
consequence, download managers are quickly catching free connections,
thus filling the pool of allowed connections _before_ getting thrown
out.

Thus, limiting the number of connections per client indeed permits to
restrict the number of FTP data connections but unfortunately doesn't
result in a beneficial management of the allowed number of connections.

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Password SOMETIMES required

2010-03-03 Thread Curtis Olson
Proftpd has the ability to limit the number of connections from any single
host.  Otherwise one person often ends up grabbing all the available
download slots.  Anyone want to look into a torrent?  Is there an easy
recipe for setting one up?  What's the bandwidth required to seed it?

Curt.


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Martin Spott wrote:

> Gijs de Rooy wrote:
> >> j...@kingmont.com wrote:
>
> >> Just wanted to let folks know that SOMETIMES you will get a message
> requiring
> >> a user name and password when attempting to access the mirror site at
> >> http://kingmont.com.
> >
> > The other two (official) mirrors have the same behaviour. Already for
> three days...
>
> Blame those idiots who are using "download managers" to create multiple
> connections to a single host (for a single file)
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Password SOMETIMES required

2010-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Gijs de Rooy wrote:
>> j...@kingmont.com wrote:

>> Just wanted to let folks know that SOMETIMES you will get a message 
>> requiring 
>> a user name and password when attempting to access the mirror site at 
>> http://kingmont.com.
> 
> The other two (official) mirrors have the same behaviour. Already for three 
> days...

Blame those idiots who are using "download managers" to create multiple
connections to a single host (for a single file)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Password SOMETIMES required

2010-03-02 Thread Gijs de Rooy



> j...@kingmont.com wrote:
>
> Just wanted to let folks know that SOMETIMES you will get a message requiring 
> a user name and password when attempting to access the mirror site at 
> http://kingmont.com.

The other two (official) mirrors have the same behaviour. Already for three 
days...


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[Flightgear-devel] Password SOMETIMES required

2010-03-02 Thread james j. brennan
Just wanted to let folks know that SOMETIMES you will get a message requiring a 
user name and password when attempting to access the mirror site at 
http://kingmont.com.

This only happens when the site is at it's maximum user load, so if you know of 
anyone seeing this problem, let them know that they SHOULD be able to get on 
the site without the need for a user name and password.

Tell them to try again later.

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