Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone
On lun 24 décembre 2007, LeeE wrote: > On Monday 24 December 2007 12:08, gerard robin wrote: > > On lun 24 décembre 2007, AnMaster wrote: > > > Maik Justus wrote: > > > > Hi Gerard, > > > > > > > > gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14: > > > >> BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference > > > >> between water and solid > > > >> > > > >> Cheers > > > > > > > > Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery > > > > looks like water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land > > > > on water everywhere you have no scenery installed. > > > > > > That sounds strange, you would be unable to land with a float > > > plane on sea tiles then? > > > > > > And when I started with A-6E once where I laked scenery, I was > > > unable to take off, because the aircraft had "crashed" into the > > > water. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Arvid Norlander > > > > I am not sure that i have understood very well. > > > > My c172 is a JSBSim aircraft and it makes difference between > > water and solid. > > > > The seaplane can land and take off on that sea tile, when there > > is sea tile, the North Pole shows that there is NO tile, which > > explain that the Aircraft can't fly on it. > > > > Merry Christmas! > > There's no SRTM data for the poles, or above 70 deg, iirc. > > LeeE Or may be, when the ice will have thawed (by the end of the century ?), we will discover that there is a big hole, instead of it :) -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone
On Monday 24 December 2007 12:08, gerard robin wrote: > On lun 24 décembre 2007, AnMaster wrote: > > Maik Justus wrote: > > > Hi Gerard, > > > > > > gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14: > > >> BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference > > >> between water and solid > > >> > > >> Cheers > > > > > > Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery > > > looks like water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land > > > on water everywhere you have no scenery installed. > > > > That sounds strange, you would be unable to land with a float > > plane on sea tiles then? > > > > And when I started with A-6E once where I laked scenery, I was > > unable to take off, because the aircraft had "crashed" into the > > water. > > > > Regards, > > > > Arvid Norlander > > I am not sure that i have understood very well. > > My c172 is a JSBSim aircraft and it makes difference between > water and solid. > > The seaplane can land and take off on that sea tile, when there > is sea tile, the North Pole shows that there is NO tile, which > explain that the Aircraft can't fly on it. > > Merry Christmas! There's no SRTM data for the poles, or above 70 deg, iirc. LeeE - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone
On Monday 24 December 2007 11:17, Maik Justus wrote: > Hi Gerard, > > gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14: > > BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference > > between water and solid > > > > Cheers > > Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery looks > like water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land on water > everywhere you have no scenery installed. > > Maik Ah - that's handy to know. Before water actually became wet in FG I used to use the sea for tuning fdms, A/P controllers and takeoff/landing stuff without having to worry about running out of runway :) LeeE - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone
On lun 24 décembre 2007, AnMaster wrote: > Maik Justus wrote: > > Hi Gerard, > > > > gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14: > >> BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference between > >> water and solid > >> > >> Cheers > > > > Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery looks like > > water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land on water everywhere > > you have no scenery installed. > > That sounds strange, you would be unable to land with a float plane on sea > tiles then? > > And when I started with A-6E once where I laked scenery, I was unable to > take off, because the aircraft had "crashed" into the water. > > Regards, > > Arvid Norlander > > I am not sure that i have understood very well. My c172 is a JSBSim aircraft and it makes difference between water and solid. The seaplane can land and take off on that sea tile, when there is sea tile, the North Pole shows that there is NO tile, which explain that the Aircraft can't fly on it. Merry Christmas! -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Maik Justus wrote: > Hi Gerard, > gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14: >> BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference between water >> and >> solid >> >> Cheers >> >> > Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery looks like > water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land on water everywhere > you have no scenery installed. That sounds strange, you would be unable to land with a float plane on sea tiles then? And when I started with A-6E once where I laked scenery, I was unable to take off, because the aircraft had "crashed" into the water. Regards, Arvid Norlander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHb5c3WmK6ng/aMNkRCmzPAKC4NajITIL8wYpxaYuvE52OdPZhagCdE9S0 xd/W7PgaQmcDwDp4S6gbmLU= =M4to -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone
Hi Gerard, gerard robin schrieb am 24.12.2007 01:14: > BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference between water > and > solid > > Cheers > > Yes, all YASim aircrafts do. But while the default scenery looks like water it is marked as solid. Therfore you can land on water everywhere you have no scenery installed. Maik - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone
On dim 23 décembre 2007, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > Hi, > > just launched a current cvs build with > ./fgfs --aircraft=c172p --start-date-sys=2007:06:21:12:00:00 --lat=89.0 > --lon=10 As expected, the cessna sat on the water since there is no scenery > installed. After takeoff, when flying a few miles to the north, the water > vanishes and there is nothing than some mystical white mist. > Screenshot: http://www.t3r.de/fg/end-of-the-world.jpg > Trying to land on what's supposed to be sea level, the aircraft does not > descend below 0ft, but it accelerates with throttle idle to unlimited. > > Anybody else observing this? Whats going on here? > > Torsten > Yes same for me http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/North-Pole.jpg BTW: i could not use the c172 because mine makes difference between water and solid Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Torsten Dreyer wrote: >> fg never worked well around the poles, iirc with fg/osg you get a crash at >> south poles. Also we lack scenery for the poles. Any scenery south or north >> of a certain point that is. > Oh - no rich-people-cocktail-party with a helicopter at the north-pole. Heh? What did you plan?! >> How did you take off from the water btw? > Normal takeoff: full throttle, rotate at 60 and go. Ah it is JSBSim then? Yasim would had crashed. Regards, Arvid Norlander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHbtNXWmK6ng/aMNkRCgFlAJ9BX93p0CnqD0/L8Hje95icHDmRmwCcD7/A eTKIECcNVRwuiqLIUZxBftg= =VNoc -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone
> fg never worked well around the poles, iirc with fg/osg you get a crash at > south poles. Also we lack scenery for the poles. Any scenery south or north > of a certain point that is. Oh - no rich-people-cocktail-party with a helicopter at the north-pole. > > How did you take off from the water btw? Normal takeoff: full throttle, rotate at 60 and go. Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 fg never worked well around the poles, iirc with fg/osg you get a crash at south poles. Also we lack scenery for the poles. Any scenery south or north of a certain point that is. How did you take off from the water btw? Regards, Arvid Norlander Torsten Dreyer wrote: > Hi, > > just launched a current cvs build with > ./fgfs --aircraft=c172p --start-date-sys=2007:06:21:12:00:00 --lat=89.0 > --lon=10 > As expected, the cessna sat on the water since there is no scenery installed. > After takeoff, when flying a few miles to the north, the water vanishes and > there is nothing than some mystical white mist. > Screenshot: http://www.t3r.de/fg/end-of-the-world.jpg > Trying to land on what's supposed to be sea level, the aircraft does not > descend below 0ft, but it accelerates with throttle idle to unlimited. > > Anybody else observing this? Whats going on here? > > Torsten -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHbsjhWmK6ng/aMNkRCpz8AJ4sRcNZ0R1IPtheu0WjvX81xLTLdwCfc0rd CzKGYrSkOm9s5tubuFoKXxQ= =o33h -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] The north pole is gone
Hi, just launched a current cvs build with ./fgfs --aircraft=c172p --start-date-sys=2007:06:21:12:00:00 --lat=89.0 --lon=10 As expected, the cessna sat on the water since there is no scenery installed. After takeoff, when flying a few miles to the north, the water vanishes and there is nothing than some mystical white mist. Screenshot: http://www.t3r.de/fg/end-of-the-world.jpg Trying to land on what's supposed to be sea level, the aircraft does not descend below 0ft, but it accelerates with throttle idle to unlimited. Anybody else observing this? Whats going on here? Torsten - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
