Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft patent on scenery rendering

2007-12-23 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Sunday 23 December 2007 13:12:17 Robert Black wrote:
 I was doing a search and ran across this
 http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7158135.html
 It came up because it referenced terragear docs. Thought some might be
 interested.  

Not that I care about software patents in the first place, but it looks like 
they are patenting ideas that are in public domain already.  Since when has 
that become possible?



Ampere

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft patent on scenery rendering

2007-12-23 Thread Shad Young
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
 On Sunday 23 December 2007 13:12:17 Robert Black wrote:
   
 I was doing a search and ran across this
 http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7158135.html
 It came up because it referenced terragear docs. Thought some might be
 interested.  
 

 Not that I care about software patents in the first place, but it looks like 
 they are patenting ideas that are in public domain already.  Since when has 
 that become possible?

For a very long time, and is why some of us have been actively fighting 
software patents and other forms of Intellectual Property laws which do 
nothing to protect authors and are in place to protect the profits of 
large corporations and stifle innovation and competition.

You too can join the fight. There are many active communities trying to 
bring sanity back to the world. Currently I am involved here in Canada 
to ensure that the proposed legislation that mirrors the draconian DMCA 
in the US does not get passed.

Check out the EFF as a place to start: http://www.eff.org

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft patent on scenery rendering

2007-12-23 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Sunday 23 December 2007 13:44:15 Shad Young wrote:
 Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
  On Sunday 23 December 2007 13:12:17 Robert Black wrote:
  I was doing a search and ran across this
  http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7158135.html
  It came up because it referenced terragear docs. Thought some might be
  interested.
 
  Not that I care about software patents in the first place, but it looks
  like they are patenting ideas that are in public domain already.  Since
  when has that become possible?

 For a very long time, and is why some of us have been actively fighting
 software patents and other forms of Intellectual Property laws which do
 nothing to protect authors and are in place to protect the profits of
 large corporations and stifle innovation and competition.

Just to elaborate: I am against software patent.  But when someone can patent 
ideas that are in public domain, then it doesn't just concern software 
patents anymore.  It means the entire patenting system is broken.



Ampere

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft patent on scenery rendering

2007-12-23 Thread R. van Steenbergen
Ampere K. Hardraade schreef:
 Just to elaborate: I am against software patent.  But when someone can patent 
 ideas that are in public domain, then it doesn't just concern software 
 patents anymore.  It means the entire patenting system is broken.

 Ampere
It is only a matter of time until some corporation starts patenting the 
laws of physics. The whole idea of 'intellectual property' seems a 
mystery to me -- it means anyone can claim that he/she thought up 
something and wants to make a large amount of money out of it. I'm not 
against making money out of tangible objects -- hardware, physical media 
-- but the whole idea of making money out of 'thin air', being either 
artistic or intellectual, seems a bit ridiculous. I think it's one of 
the extremeties of the free market. But I've got a feeling that the 
whole market on IP will collapse in the near future: the Writer's Guild 
of America is already on strike in the movie world, with the Screen 
Actor's Guild following shortly, because they just don't make enough 
money out of the 'air' sold. :)



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