Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATC voices (no AI at EGPD)
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:51:41 +, Willie wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thursday 23 February 2006 22:35, David Luff wrote: > > > > > I wonder if there's any scope for giving it phonetic help/hints for > > stuff it doesn't pronounce well, such as "ATIS". In fact, come to > > think of it, I'm not sure I know how ATIS should be pronounced - I > > always assumed it was "Ay-tis", but maybe "aah-tis" is correct? > > > > Cheers - Dave > I pronounce it "Ay-tiss". Somewhere Ive got a CAP (CAP56?) that gives > the non-std pronunciations for common aeronautical use in UK > airspace. But we certainly say "Ay-tiss" at Prestwick. TBH we dont > use the term that much , its usually just "information November" or > whatever letter is current. Often "information" is missed entirely as > in "Prestwick Tower, G-ATOM at Papa with November, request taxi" > > If the ATIS changes the Tower may add " Information Mike is current" > ie > better re-tune and listen again cos November is history. But AFAIR > they rarely say "ATIS" ..I can see 3 settings needed here; --by-the-book, --sloppy-like-in-RL and --multiplayer. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Pronouncing "ATIS" (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATC voices (no AI at EGPD))
On 23/02/06, David Luff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder if there's any scope for giving it phonetic help/hints for stuff it > doesn't pronounce well, such as "ATIS". In fact, come to think of it, I'm > not sure I know how ATIS should be pronounced - I always assumed it was > "Ay-tis", but maybe "aah-tis" is correct? In North America, we pronounce the first syllable to rhyme with "day", but you shouldn't need to worry about it -- I don't think I've ever heard the word "ATIS" spoken on an ATIS. It usually starts like this: "Ottawa International Airport, information charlie, conditions at one four zero zero zulu ..." and ends "... inform ATC on initial contact you have information charlie." All the best, David -- http://www.megginson.com/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATC voices (no AI at EGPD)
On Thursday 23 February 2006 22:35, David Luff wrote: > > I wonder if there's any scope for giving it phonetic help/hints for stuff > it doesn't pronounce well, such as "ATIS". In fact, come to think of it, > I'm not sure I know how ATIS should be pronounced - I always assumed it was > "Ay-tis", but maybe "aah-tis" is correct? > > Cheers - Dave I pronounce it "Ay-tiss". Somewhere Ive got a CAP (CAP56?) that gives the non-std pronunciations for common aeronautical use in UK airspace. But we certainly say "Ay-tiss" at Prestwick. TBH we dont use the term that much , its usually just "information November" or whatever letter is current. Often "information" is missed entirely as in "Prestwick Tower, G-ATOM at Papa with November, request taxi" If the ATIS changes the Tower may add " Information Mike is current" ie better re-tune and listen again cos November is history. But AFAIR they rarely say "ATIS" Willie --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATC voices (no AI at EGPD)
Melchior FRANZ writes: > * Justin Smithies -- Tuesday 21 February 2006 23:20: > > Thats the same freq im using and i can take off fly miles away and hear > > nothing. > > I enable ATC and select 3 from density > > I hear ATC and "my" voice ('-key dialog), but there doesn't seem > to be any AI aircraft around. No idea why. > I've just flown from Insch (EG56) to EGPD with AI set to 3. There was no AI traffic on the frequency for the first 5 minutes or so, but about half way to EGPD it got very busy, and I was no. 5 when calling downwind. I think some of the random generation algorithms might need a bit of tweaking. I don't think the tower AI handles level 3 very well either - I got told to go around when the runway was clear. Used the festival server for the first time as well. Nice work guys! It really does add something having the voices, even if some of it does sound a bit strange. It's much harder to follow what's going on and remember the call-signs than when reading the screen. I wonder if there's any scope for giving it phonetic help/hints for stuff it doesn't pronounce well, such as "ATIS". In fact, come to think of it, I'm not sure I know how ATIS should be pronounced - I always assumed it was "Ay-tis", but maybe "aah-tis" is correct? Cheers - Dave --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel