Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATC voices (no AI at EGPD)

2006-02-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:51:41 +, Willie wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Thursday 23 February 2006 22:35, David Luff wrote:
> 
> >
> > I wonder if there's any scope for giving it phonetic help/hints for
> > stuff it doesn't pronounce well, such as "ATIS".  In fact, come to
> > think of it, I'm not sure I know how ATIS should be pronounced - I
> > always assumed it was "Ay-tis", but maybe "aah-tis" is correct?
> >
> > Cheers - Dave
> I pronounce it "Ay-tiss".  Somewhere Ive got a CAP (CAP56?) that gives
> the  non-std pronunciations for common aeronautical use in UK
> airspace. But we  certainly say "Ay-tiss" at Prestwick.  TBH we dont
> use the term that much ,  its usually just "information November" or
> whatever letter is current. Often  "information" is missed entirely as
> in  "Prestwick Tower, G-ATOM at Papa with  November, request taxi"  
> 
> If the ATIS changes  the Tower may  add " Information Mike is current"
>   ie 
> better re-tune and listen again cos November is history. But AFAIR
> they  rarely say "ATIS"

..I can see 3 settings needed here; --by-the-book, --sloppy-like-in-RL
and --multiplayer.  ;o)


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Pronouncing "ATIS" (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATC voices (no AI at EGPD))

2006-02-24 Thread David Megginson
On 23/02/06, David Luff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I wonder if there's any scope for giving it phonetic help/hints for stuff it 
> doesn't pronounce well, such as "ATIS".  In fact, come to think of it, I'm 
> not sure I know how ATIS should be pronounced - I always assumed it was 
> "Ay-tis", but maybe "aah-tis" is correct?

In North America, we pronounce the first syllable to rhyme with "day",
but you shouldn't need to worry about it -- I don't think I've ever
heard the word "ATIS" spoken on an ATIS.  It usually starts like this:

"Ottawa International Airport, information charlie, conditions at one
four zero zero zulu ..."

and ends

"... inform ATC on initial contact you have information charlie."


All the best,


David

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATC voices (no AI at EGPD)

2006-02-23 Thread Willie Fleming
On Thursday 23 February 2006 22:35, David Luff wrote:

>
> I wonder if there's any scope for giving it phonetic help/hints for stuff
> it doesn't pronounce well, such as "ATIS".  In fact, come to think of it,
> I'm not sure I know how ATIS should be pronounced - I always assumed it was
> "Ay-tis", but maybe "aah-tis" is correct?
>
> Cheers - Dave
I pronounce it "Ay-tiss".  Somewhere Ive got a CAP (CAP56?) that gives the 
non-std pronunciations for common aeronautical use in UK airspace. But we 
certainly say "Ay-tiss" at Prestwick.  TBH we dont use the term that much , 
its usually just "information November" or whatever letter is current. Often 
"information" is missed entirely as in  "Prestwick Tower, G-ATOM at Papa with 
November, request taxi"  

If the ATIS changes  the Tower may  add " Information Mike is current"   ie 
better re-tune and listen again cos November is history. But AFAIR they 
rarely say "ATIS"

Willie


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: ATC voices (no AI at EGPD)

2006-02-23 Thread David Luff
Melchior FRANZ writes:

> * Justin Smithies -- Tuesday 21 February 2006 23:20:
> > Thats the same freq im using and i can take off fly miles away and hear 
> > nothing.
> > I enable ATC and select 3 from density
> 
> I hear ATC and "my" voice ('-key dialog), but there doesn't seem
> to be any AI aircraft around. No idea why.
> 

I've just flown from Insch (EG56) to EGPD with AI set to 3.  There was no AI 
traffic on the frequency for the first 5 minutes or so, but about half way to 
EGPD it got very busy, and I was no. 5 when calling downwind.  I think some of 
the random generation algorithms might need a bit of tweaking.  I don't think 
the tower AI handles level 3 very well either - I got told to go around when 
the runway was clear.  

Used the festival server for the first time as well.  Nice work guys!  It 
really does add something having the voices, even if some of it does sound a 
bit strange.  It's much harder to follow what's going on and remember the 
call-signs than when reading the screen.

I wonder if there's any scope for giving it phonetic help/hints for stuff it 
doesn't pronounce well, such as "ATIS".  In fact, come to think of it, I'm not 
sure I know how ATIS should be pronounced - I always assumed it was "Ay-tis", 
but maybe "aah-tis" is correct?

Cheers - Dave



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