Re: [Flightgear-users] FYI: nvidia driver 8756 released for Linux

2006-04-10 Thread Mike Rawlins

--- Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Version: 1.0-8756
> Operating System: Linux IA32
> Release Date: April 7, 2006 
> 
> Release Highlights 
> 



http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html
> 
> m.
> 

I'd like to find out if I should install this driver,
and if it will improve frame rate in FG.  I have a
Dell Inspiron 8200, 2 GB RAM, 1.6 GHz Pentium CPU.
Video card is 32 MB DDR 4X AGP GeForce2. Current
driver:

# more /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 
1.0-6629  Wed Nov  3 13:12:
51 PST 2004
GCC version:  gcc version 3.3.3 20040412 (Red Hat
Linux 3.3.3-7)

Using these options:
--geometry=1024x768
--disable-specular-highlight
--visibility-miles=18.0

I get 12-14 frame per second. I've been told that this
is about all I can expect from the 32 MB card.

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FYI: nvidia driver 8756 released for Linux

2006-04-10 Thread Jon Stockill

Mike Rawlins wrote:

--- Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Version: 1.0-8756
Operating System: Linux IA32
Release Date: April 7, 2006 

Release Highlights 





http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html

m.



I'd like to find out if I should install this driver,
and if it will improve frame rate in FG.  I have a
Dell Inspiron 8200, 2 GB RAM, 1.6 GHz Pentium CPU.
Video card is 32 MB DDR 4X AGP GeForce2. Current
driver:

# more /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 
1.0-6629  Wed Nov  3 13:12:

51 PST 2004
GCC version:  gcc version 3.3.3 20040412 (Red Hat
Linux 3.3.3-7)

Using these options:
--geometry=1024x768
--disable-specular-highlight
--visibility-miles=18.0

I get 12-14 frame per second. I've been told that this
is about all I can expect from the 32 MB card.


Sounds about right. The s3tc patch improves things a bit in areas where 
there are lots of textures (like near the carrier), but you're 
definitely near the limits of that card.


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Re: [Flightgear-users] FYI: nvidia driver 8756 released for Linux

2006-04-10 Thread Didier
i have a very bad FPS (10-12) when airport lights are switched on (with or 
without enhanced-lighting option) and with old and newer nvidia-driver.
The video device is a gForce FX5700 LE with 256Mo RAM. I don't understand why.
With FlightGear 0.9.9 only the enhanced-lightning option make this (but only 2 
or 3 FPS in that case).

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FYI: nvidia driver 8756 released for Linux

2006-04-10 Thread Anders Gidenstam

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Jon Stockill wrote:


Mike Rawlins wrote:


Using these options:
--geometry=1024x768
--disable-specular-highlight
--visibility-miles=18.0

I get 12-14 frame per second. I've been told that this
is about all I can expect from the 32 MB card.


Sounds about right. The s3tc patch improves things a bit in areas where there 
are lots of textures (like near the carrier), but you're definitely near the 
limits of that card.


With the s3tc patch I most often got 15 - 25 fps[0] at 1024x768 with my 
old GeForce2 400MX / 32MB card. When the card ran out of texture memory I 
got about ~1-2 fps at most, but that only happened before the patch.


I you aren't alread using 
--disable-enhanced-lighting

I think it might give you some additional fps.

[0] At KSFO. With little on-screen it could go to 40 - 50 fps, even.

Cheers,

Anders
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Re: [Flightgear-users] FYI: nvidia driver 8756 released for Linux

2006-04-10 Thread Mike Rawlins

--- Anders Gidenstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 10 Apr 2006, Jon Stockill wrote:
> 
> > Mike Rawlins wrote:
> >> 
> >> Using these options:
> >> --geometry=1024x768
> >> --disable-specular-highlight
> >> --visibility-miles=18.0
> >> 
> >> I get 12-14 frame per second. I've been told that
> this
> >> is about all I can expect from the 32 MB card.
> >
> > Sounds about right. The s3tc patch improves things
> a bit in areas where there 
> > are lots of textures (like near the carrier), but
> you're definitely near the 
> > limits of that card.
> 
> With the s3tc patch I most often got 15 - 25 fps[0]
> at 1024x768 with my 
> old GeForce2 400MX / 32MB card. When the card ran
> out of texture memory I 
> got about ~1-2 fps at most, but that only happened
> before the patch.
> 
> I you aren't alread using 
> --disable-enhanced-lighting
> I think it might give you some additional fps.
> 
> [0] At KSFO. With little on-screen it could go to 40
> - 50 fps, even.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anders

I tried --disable-enhanced-lighting.  No significant
difference.  Interestingly, at night the FPS is only
6-8.  Around 10 FPS average will have to do, as I'm
running FG on the laptop given to me for work.  If I
ever decide to buy a desktop, I'll consider a
top-notch video card/graphics setup.

And like you and Jon pointed out, maybe the s3tc patch
will help.

Mike 

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Re: [Flightgear-users] FYI: nvidia driver 8756 released for Linux

2006-04-10 Thread Mr D Ginger


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Re: [Flightgear-users] FYI: nvidia driver 8756 released for Linux

2006-04-10 Thread Chris Wilkinson

Hi there,

Didier wrote:
i have a very bad FPS (10-12) when airport lights are switched on (with or 
without enhanced-lighting option) and with old and newer nvidia-driver.

The video device is a gForce FX5700 LE with 256Mo RAM. I don't understand why.
With FlightGear 0.9.9 only the enhanced-lightning option make this (but only 2 
or 3 FPS in that case).


Check your antialias setting. I use 2x Quincunx antialias and
4x anisotropic filter on my GeForce FX5700TD, and get OK frame
rate even with 1920x1440 resolution and all eye-candy on...

Some people report the 5700LE can be overclocked very well - the
GPU core clock on your card is only 250MHz (my 5700TD is 425MHz).
Try using NVclock from this link...

http://www.linuxhardware.org/nvclock/

Just be careful not to cook your card - some cards will slow down
to protect from overheating, but the 5700LE may not have that
feature to protect it... :-)


Kind regards,

Chris Wilkinson, Brisbane, Australia.





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