Re: [fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Alexander I. Zaytsev]

Hi Gleb, can you please explain what are you trying to achieve?


2014-03-25 8:52 GMT+13:00 Gleb Chermennov :

> Ok, I did try out to use SQLite for running NHibernate tests and I failed.
> But I still managed to install SQLite NuGet package properly, which I guess
> I can put on my CV as a separate line lol.
> Turns out, NHibernate doesn't have a sql script for setting up a database
> before tests for SQLite (or I just didn't find it).
> They do have a script for Sql Server, though - it should work on SqlCe, at
> least theoretically.
> Didn't yet tried SqlCe, will do soon.
> Thoughts? What did I miss with SQLite?
>
>
> четверг, 6 марта 2014 г., 20:56:25 UTC+4 пользователь Jeff Doolittle
> написал:
>
>> I'd be willing to help out with getting tests running against SQLite or
>> SqlCE.  Let me know what you had in mind and if there are any other issues
>> to address to prepare for NH 4.0.
>>
>> --Jeff
>>
>> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:09:13 AM UTC-8, Gleb Chermennov wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello.
>>> I try to maintain the project in my spare time - pull requests kindly
>>> appreciated, as always :)
>>> I'm aware that NHibernate is slowly arriving at 4.0 version, in fact
>>> there's a branch named nh-net40-migration that checks compatibility with
>>> NHibernate master branch. I haven't updated it in a while, but I certainly
>>> will do it before 4.0 release hits NuGet. I should definitely automate that
>>> process sometimes in the future - as soon as I figure out how to run
>>> NHibernate tests with some in-memory database like SQLite or SqlCE.
>>> Didn't check NHibernate 4 alpha on NuGet yet though.
>>>
>>> вторник, 18 февраля 2014 г., 15:57:55 UTC+4 пользователь Dato Asdwqwe
>>> написал:

 Hi

 Just walked through the repository and the last commit was made 2 month
 ago. So does anyone maintains the project? NHibernate 4 alpha is released,
 is there a plan to support?

 Thanks

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Gleb Chermennov]

Ok, I did try out to use SQLite for running NHibernate tests and I failed. 
But I still managed to install SQLite NuGet package properly, which I guess 
I can put on my CV as a separate line lol.
Turns out, NHibernate doesn't have a sql script for setting up a database 
before tests for SQLite (or I just didn't find it).
They do have a script for Sql Server, though - it should work on SqlCe, at 
least theoretically.
Didn't yet tried SqlCe, will do soon.
Thoughts? What did I miss with SQLite?

четверг, 6 марта 2014 г., 20:56:25 UTC+4 пользователь Jeff Doolittle 
написал:
>
> I'd be willing to help out with getting tests running against SQLite or 
> SqlCE.  Let me know what you had in mind and if there are any other issues 
> to address to prepare for NH 4.0.
>
> --Jeff
>
> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:09:13 AM UTC-8, Gleb Chermennov wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>> I try to maintain the project in my spare time - pull requests kindly 
>> appreciated, as always :)
>> I'm aware that NHibernate is slowly arriving at 4.0 version, in fact 
>> there's a branch named nh-net40-migration that checks compatibility with 
>> NHibernate master branch. I haven't updated it in a while, but I certainly 
>> will do it before 4.0 release hits NuGet. I should definitely automate that 
>> process sometimes in the future - as soon as I figure out how to run 
>> NHibernate tests with some in-memory database like SQLite or SqlCE.
>> Didn't check NHibernate 4 alpha on NuGet yet though.
>>
>> вторник, 18 февраля 2014 г., 15:57:55 UTC+4 пользователь Dato Asdwqwe 
>> написал:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Just walked through the repository and the last commit was made 2 month 
>>> ago. So does anyone maintains the project? NHibernate 4 alpha is released, 
>>> is there a plan to support?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Gleb Chermennov]

I'll try to do it some time next week and ask questions when they appear 
(and they will, probably).

четверг, 6 марта 2014 г., 20:56:25 UTC+4 пользователь Jeff Doolittle 
написал:
>
> I'd be willing to help out with getting tests running against SQLite or 
> SqlCE.  Let me know what you had in mind and if there are any other issues 
> to address to prepare for NH 4.0.
>
> --Jeff
>
> On Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:09:13 AM UTC-8, Gleb Chermennov wrote:
>>
>> Hello.
>> I try to maintain the project in my spare time - pull requests kindly 
>> appreciated, as always :)
>> I'm aware that NHibernate is slowly arriving at 4.0 version, in fact 
>> there's a branch named nh-net40-migration that checks compatibility with 
>> NHibernate master branch. I haven't updated it in a while, but I certainly 
>> will do it before 4.0 release hits NuGet. I should definitely automate that 
>> process sometimes in the future - as soon as I figure out how to run 
>> NHibernate tests with some in-memory database like SQLite or SqlCE.
>> Didn't check NHibernate 4 alpha on NuGet yet though.
>>
>> вторник, 18 февраля 2014 г., 15:57:55 UTC+4 пользователь Dato Asdwqwe 
>> написал:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Just walked through the repository and the last commit was made 2 month 
>>> ago. So does anyone maintains the project? NHibernate 4 alpha is released, 
>>> is there a plan to support?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Jeff Doolittle]

I'd be willing to help out with getting tests running against SQLite or 
SqlCE.  Let me know what you had in mind and if there are any other issues 
to address to prepare for NH 4.0.

--Jeff

On Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:09:13 AM UTC-8, Gleb Chermennov wrote:
>
> Hello.
> I try to maintain the project in my spare time - pull requests kindly 
> appreciated, as always :)
> I'm aware that NHibernate is slowly arriving at 4.0 version, in fact 
> there's a branch named nh-net40-migration that checks compatibility with 
> NHibernate master branch. I haven't updated it in a while, but I certainly 
> will do it before 4.0 release hits NuGet. I should definitely automate that 
> process sometimes in the future - as soon as I figure out how to run 
> NHibernate tests with some in-memory database like SQLite or SqlCE.
> Didn't check NHibernate 4 alpha on NuGet yet though.
>
> вторник, 18 февраля 2014 г., 15:57:55 UTC+4 пользователь Dato Asdwqwe 
> написал:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Just walked through the repository and the last commit was made 2 month 
>> ago. So does anyone maintains the project? NHibernate 4 alpha is released, 
>> is there a plan to support?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Gleb Chermennov]

Hello.
I try to maintain the project in my spare time - pull requests kindly 
appreciated, as always :)
I'm aware that NHibernate is slowly arriving at 4.0 version, in fact 
there's a branch named nh-net40-migration that checks compatibility with 
NHibernate master branch. I haven't updated it in a while, but I certainly 
will do it before 4.0 release hits NuGet. I should definitely automate that 
process sometimes in the future - as soon as I figure out how to run 
NHibernate tests with some in-memory database like SQLite or SqlCE.
Didn't check NHibernate 4 alpha on NuGet yet though.

вторник, 18 февраля 2014 г., 15:57:55 UTC+4 пользователь Dato Asdwqwe 
написал:
>
> Hi
>
> Just walked through the repository and the last commit was made 2 month 
> ago. So does anyone maintains the project? NHibernate 4 alpha is released, 
> is there a plan to support?
>
> Thanks
>

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Paul Batum]

I'm a strong advocate for automapping, but barely any of the code in the 
automapping section is mine. In reality, my involvement with the project has 
always been minor. Do not be concerned by my absence :)
  


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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[James Gregory]

Don't worry, no slighting received. :)

My point was, for the most part everyone involved knows how most things 
work. There really aren't any specialists in our little team.

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[tbushell]

James,

Thanks for the clarification.

I didn't mean to slight your efforts WRT to automapping, I'm just not
that familiar with the history of the project.

-Tom

On May 3, 4:31 am, James Gregory  wrote:
> Automapping will continue. I don't believe Paul has been any more or less
> responsible for Automapping than I have, in fact it was Andrew Stewart who
> was the original Automapping guy and he hasn't been active in quite a while.
>
> Nothing is dead, nothing is changing.

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[James Gregory]

Automapping will continue. I don't believe Paul has been any more or less 
responsible for Automapping than I have, in fact it was Andrew Stewart who 
was the original Automapping guy and he hasn't been active in quite a while.

Nothing is dead, nothing is changing.

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[tbushell]

Is Automapping going to continue to the evolve with the rest of FNH?

I ask, because it's my understanding that Paul Batum has done most of
the work on this, and I just saw a recent posting where he said he's
not contributing to the project as much these days.

Not trying to knock Paul, or James, or anybody else who's contributed
so much to FNH. Just expressing some concern about my favorite feature
in FNH!

I might be able to help some - with documentation, most likely.

-Tom



On May 1, 5:16 am, James Gregory  wrote:
> Like I said, FNH is not dead. There's no "more or less" about it, there will
> be a NH3.2 compatible release when it's done. Simple as that. No need to
> worry.

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Timur Zanagar]

Thank you very much for your information. I'm glad that such a good
project get further development. Keep doing this good work.

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[James Gregory]

Like I said, FNH is not dead. There's no "more or less" about it, there will 
be a NH3.2 compatible release when it's done. Simple as that. No need to 
worry.

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Timur Zanagar]

Sorry, but my intention was not working NOW with a non-GA release. My
intention is to get know if this project will be exists for further NH
GA Releases or not!!! Not more or less! I like FNH and I like it how
easy it makes my life working with NH. Keep this!

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Re: [fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Krzysztof Koźmic]

For the record, it seems the latest fnh works with latest nh preview. The
only thing i had to change was proxy factory factory to the built one
On 01/05/2011 6:47 PM, "James Gregory"  wrote:
> How very sensationalist a title this is.
>
> No, FNH is not dead. Yes, there will be a release for NH 3.2.
>
> As has always been the case, we don't track non-GA releases, so as NH 3.2
is
> currently still in Alpha we don't have a release out for it.
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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[James Gregory]

How very sensationalist a title this is.

No, FNH is not dead. Yes, there will be a release for NH 3.2.

As has always been the case, we don't track non-GA releases, so as NH 3.2 is 
currently still in Alpha we don't have a release out for it.

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Re: [fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Paul Batum]

The good news is that we did account for the possibility of moving away from
XML when we rewrote the internals of FNH, and so the change to use the new
mapping APIs is not actually that bad. It uses the visitor pattern to walk
the mapping structure and generate XML - someone just needs to write another
set of visitors that talk to the mapping API. There will be a few gotchas
(there always are) but it should be quite practical. There does seem like a
reasonable chance of introducing some breaking changes though.

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Mohamed Meligy wrote:

> Actually NH 3.2 is going to have Automapping features:
>
> http://fabiomaulo.blogspot.com/2011/04/nhibernate-32-mapping-by-code_13.html
>
> Not sure whether in this article or another, Fabio mentioned he still sees
> room for his own confORM library to make even stronger conventions
> (automappings). If this room really exists (that NH team decides to
> implement limit productivity features of convention based mappings and leave
> more to 3rd parties to build on it, not try to push it as the one way to do
> mappings from now on), it should be possible for FNH to do the same also.
>
> There are some challenges. For example, NH new mappings don't do XML
> internally. This brings better performance, but means that for FNH to take
> advantage of that, a lot of stuff needs to be re-written to use NH new
> mapping APIs internally, and means either it breaks compatibility with
> previous versions of NH, or it has even more work to do to make the internal
> part pluggable to have two versions of it, XML based, and NH 3.2 mappings
> based.
>
>
>
> *Mohamed Meligy
> *Readify | Senior Developer
>
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> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Timur Zanagar <
> timur.zana...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> The only reason I would like to use NH 3.2 is the new Batcher. Not
>> more or less. I hope that the FNH will not die. It's better than any
>> other Mapping for NHibernate, which I saw.
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Re: [fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Mohamed Meligy]

Actually NH 3.2 is going to have Automapping features:
http://fabiomaulo.blogspot.com/2011/04/nhibernate-32-mapping-by-code_13.html

Not sure whether in this article or another, Fabio mentioned he still sees
room for his own confORM library to make even stronger conventions
(automappings). If this room really exists (that NH team decides to
implement limit productivity features of convention based mappings and leave
more to 3rd parties to build on it, not try to push it as the one way to do
mappings from now on), it should be possible for FNH to do the same also.

There are some challenges. For example, NH new mappings don't do XML
internally. This brings better performance, but means that for FNH to take
advantage of that, a lot of stuff needs to be re-written to use NH new
mapping APIs internally, and means either it breaks compatibility with
previous versions of NH, or it has even more work to do to make the internal
part pluggable to have two versions of it, XML based, and NH 3.2 mappings
based.



*Mohamed Meligy
*Readify | Senior Developer

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On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Timur Zanagar  wrote:

> The only reason I would like to use NH 3.2 is the new Batcher. Not
> more or less. I hope that the FNH will not die. It's better than any
> other Mapping for NHibernate, which I saw.
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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Timur Zanagar]

The only reason I would like to use NH 3.2 is the new Batcher. Not
more or less. I hope that the FNH will not die. It's better than any
other Mapping for NHibernate, which I saw.

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[fluent-nhib] Re: Is Fluent NHibernate dead?

[Vahid]

NH 2.3 does not support auto-mapping so I'll stick with fluent NH!
More info:
http://lostechies.com/jamesgregory/2011/04/13/me-on-nhibernate-3-2/

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