Re: FLUXLIST: John Perry Barlow: The Next Economy Of Ideas (fwd)

2000-10-11 Thread Narcissus In Paradys

My only issue with Napster is the Recording companies rob the artists blind... the 
artists don't make squat off of records... they make what little money they make off 
of concerts and merchandising, and even then the record companies get the most... why 
don't they ditch the record companies and do like Chili Peppers planned to do? 
Distribute all their music (for free) on the net, and fund their OWN recording 
company? All the artists could join together to do it, and run it themselves... With 
the soaring cd sales they would make a killing.

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Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Conceptual Art Index Card

2000-10-11 Thread Narcissus In Paradys

One piece of paper, stained by a tear, cried by a human who had lost the love of the 
moon...

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Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Conceptual Art Index Card

2000-10-11 Thread Patricia

yes, please

If this is an acceptable offer, I'll send you a leetle sumping in da
mail

Wafting floral essences,
Princess Petal



Roger Stevens wrote:

> I have made four copies of the index card -
> each copy using a different medium.
>
> I have put the copies and the original in identical white envelopes
>
> The first four people to make me an acceptable offer
> (I have one so far - if that person still wants to take part)
> will receive one of the envelopes chosen
> at random
>
> I'll retain the fifth
>
> So...
>
> Any offers?




FLUXLIST: John Perry Barlow: The Next Economy Of Ideas (fwd)

2000-10-11 Thread { brad brace }






Wired 8.10

An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not 
an idea whose time has come. - Victor Hugo

The Next Economy Of Ideas 

Will copyright survive the Napster bomb? Nope, but creativity 
will. 

By John Perry Barlow

The great cultural war has broken out at last. 

Long awaited by some and a nasty surprise to others, the 
conflict between the industrial age and the virtual age is now 
being fought in earnest, thanks to that modestly conceived but 
paradigm-shattering thing called Napster. 

What's happening with global, peer-to-peer networking is not 
altogether different from what happened when the American 
colonists realized they were poorly served by the British Crown: 
The colonists were obliged to cast off that power and develop an 
economy better suited to their new environment. For settlers of 
cyberspace, the fuse was lit last July, when Judge Marilyn Hall 
Patel tried to shut down Napster and silence the cacophonous 
free market of expression, which was already teeming with more 
than 20 million directly wired music lovers. 

Despite an appeals-court stay immediately granted the 
Napsterians, her decree transformed an evolving economy into a 
cause, and turned millions of politically apathetic youngsters 
into electronic Hezbollah. Neither the best efforts of Judge 
Patel - nor those of the Porsche-driving executives of the 
Recording Industry Association of America, nor the sleek legal 
defenders of existing copyright law - will alter this simple 
fact: No law can be successfully imposed on a huge population 
that does not morally support it and possesses easy means for 
its invisible evasion. 

To put it mildly, the geriatrics of the entertainment industry 
didn't see this coming. They figured the Internet was about as 
much of a threat to their infotainment empire as ham radio was 
to NBC. Even after that assumption was creamed, they remained as 
serene as sunning crocodiles. After all, they still "owned" all 
that stuff they call "content." That it might soon become 
possible for anyone with a PC to effortlessly reproduce their 
"property" and distribute it to all of humanity didn't trouble 
them at all. 

But then along came Napster. Or, more to the point, along came 
the real Internet, an instantaneous network that endows any 
acne-faced kid with a distributive power equal to Time Warner's. 
Moreover, these were kids who don't give a flying byte about the 
existing legal battlements, and a lot of them possess decryption 
skills sufficient to easily crack whatever lame code the 
entertainment industry might wrap around "its" goods. 

Practically every traditional pundit who's commented on the 
Napster case has, at some point, furrowed a telegenic brow and 
asked, "Is the genie out of the bottle?" A better question would 
be, "Is there a bottle?" No, there isn't. 

Which is not to say the industry won't keep trying to create 
one. In addition to ludicrously misguided (and probably 
unconstitutional) edicts like the Digital Millennium Copyright 
Act, entertainment execs are placing great faith in new 
cryptographic solutions. But before they waste a lot of time on 
their latest algorithmic vessels, they might consider the ones 
they've designed so far. These include such systems as the pay-
per-view videodisc format Divx, the Secure Digital Music 
Initiative, and CSS - the DVD encryption system, which has 
sparked its own legal hostilities on the Eastern front, starting 
with the New York courtroom of Judge Lewis Kaplan. 

Here's the present score: Divx was stillborn. SDMI will probably 
never be born owing to the wrangling of its corporate parents. 
And DeCSS (the DVD decryptor) is off and running, even though 
the Motion Picture Association of America has prevailed in its 
lawsuit aimed at stopping Web sites from posting - or even 
linking to - the disc-cracking code. While that decision is 
appealed, DeCSS will keep spreading: As the Electronic Frontier 
Foundation was defending three e-distributors inside Kaplan's 
court last summer, nose-ringed kids outside were selling T-
shirts with the program silk-screened on the back. 

The last time technical copy protection was widely attempted -
remember when most software was copy-protected? - it failed in 
the marketplace, and failed

Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Conceptual Art Index Card

2000-10-11 Thread Roger Stevens

I have made four copies of the index card -
each copy using a different medium.

I have put the copies and the original in identical white envelopes

The first four people to make me an acceptable offer
(I have one so far - if that person still wants to take part)
will receive one of the envelopes chosen
at random

I'll retain the fifth

So...

Any offers?





FLUXLIST: RE: Conceptual Art Index Card

2000-10-11 Thread Josh O. Ronsen

Roger Stevens asks [in regard to the index card containing the definition of 
conceptual art I found in a library book]:

>Who would like to trade for the definition?
>Whaddya got?
>Who can tempt me?

How 'bout a stirring testimonial as too how much this definition has conceptually 
changed your conceptual conception of conceptual art? Something that would make people 
realize that this isn't just an index card with a definition of conceptual art written 
on it, it is THE index card with THE definition of conceptual art written on it.

I want people to realize that I did not write the index card (I will send any bearer 
of the index card a sample of my writing for comparison), nor do I have any idea who 
did.

But it changed my life.

-Josh Ronsen
http://www.nd.org/jronsen












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FLUXLIST: Book/Ends Electronic Media at University of Albany

2000-10-11 Thread Crisarc2000

BOOK/ENDS is an international gathering of theorists, educators and artists 
planned for 11-14 October 2000. The event will combine lectures by renowned 
scholars from the US and abroad, multimedia artist exhibitions and 
demonstrations, focus workshops and open fora.

http://www.albany.edu/bookends/index.html

" Book/Ends Wired: Electronic Media at the Arts Center" 
September 15 - November 2, 2000
Opening reception is 6 - 8PM on Friday the 15th.
Featured Artists:
+Gary Hill, Toni Dove, Alan Sondheim, Mark Amerika, Stelarc

Lectures/Roundtable Talks

Wednesday, October 11 (8pm)
+Stelarc: "Zombies and Cyborgs: Absent, Obsolete and Involuntary Bodies"

Thursday, October 12 (4:30-6:30pm)
+Xu Bing: "Between Vision and Language"

Thursday, October 12 (8pm)
+Jacques Derrida: "The End of the Book or the Archive to Come"

Saturday, October 14, (8:45-10:45am)
+Alan Sondheim: "Online Writing"

Saturday, October 14, (10:45-12:45am)
+Diller + Scofidio: "Roundtable Discussion"
++

http://www.albany.edu/bookends/program.htm




Re: FLUXLIST: anagrams for"I love Fluxus"

2000-10-11 Thread Reed Altemus

Owen

Great- I love this poem almost as much as I love Fluxus itself.
EVIL FUX SOUL- terrific!

Bests,

RA

Owen Smith wrote:

> FIVE LULU SOX
> FIVE SOUL LUX
> OLIVE FLU SUX
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> LEVIS FUX LOU
> LEVI FOUL SUX
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> VILE OF LUX US
> VILE FUX SOUL
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> VISE FLUX LOU
> VISE FOX LULU
> VIE FULL OX US
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> VIE FLU LUX SO
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> LOVE IF LUX US
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> LOVE FLU XI US
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> VEX IF LULU SO
> VEX SOULFUL I
> VEX FOUL LUIS
> VEX FLU I SOUL
> VEX FLU OIL US
> VEX FLU LOUIS
> VEX FLU IS LOU
> VEX OF IS LULU
>
> Owen (EVIL FUX SOUL) Smith




FLUXLIST: anagrams for"I love Fluxus"

2000-10-11 Thread Owen Smith

FIVE LULU SOX
FIVE SOUL LUX
OLIVE FLU SUX
OLIVE FLUX US
LEVIS FUX LOU
LEVI FOUL SUX
LEVI FLU OX US
LEVI OF LUX US
LEVI FUX SOUL
LIVE FOUL SUX
LIVE FLU OX US
LIVE OF LUX US
LIVE FUX SOUL
VEIL FOUL SUX
VEIL FLU OX US
VEIL OF LUX US
VEIL FUX SOUL
EVIL FOUL SUX
EVIL FLU OX US
EVIL OF LUX US
EVIL FUX SOUL
VILE FOUL SUX
VILE FLU OX US
VILE OF LUX US
VILE FUX SOUL
VISE FOUL LUX
VISE FLUX LOU
VISE FOX LULU
VIE FULL OX US
VIE FLO LUX US
VIE FLU LUX SO
VIE FLUX SOUL
I'VE FULL OX US
I'VE FLO LUX US
I'VE FLU LUX SO
I'VE FLUX SOUL
LOVE IF LUX US
LOVE FLU I SUX
LOVE FLU XI US
LOVE FLUX I US
LOVE FUX LUIS
VEX IF LULU SO
VEX SOULFUL I
VEX FOUL LUIS
VEX FLU I SOUL
VEX FLU OIL US
VEX FLU LOUIS
VEX FLU IS LOU
VEX OF IS LULU



Owen (EVIL FUX SOUL) Smith