FLUXLIST: [ pavu.com ] the last dance : join TSF today!
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FLUXLIST: keeping abreast of culture
i found this while searching for the origins of the purdah. there is, as of now, no *immediate* connection between the two... Esquire 02/01/99 Esquire By UDOVITCH, MIM Magazine: Esquire, February 1999 BREASTS, REASSESSED --- THEIR SUDDEN PROMINENCE IS EITHER AN EMBLEM OF EMPOWERMENT, THE FRUIT OF TECNOLOGICAL ADVANCE, OR A SYMBOL OF THE NEW CULTURE OF FALSENESS THAT PERVADES THE CORRIDORS OF POWER. OR MAYBE IT'S JUST A CAUSE FOR CELEBRATION. A FEW YEARS AGO, the following conversation occurred between a San Francisco radio-talk-show host named Chris Clarke and a caller named Gregory. Gregory: I have a friend who recently had breast reconstruction after having undergone a mastectomy for breast cancer. She was upset because, for the time being, she was not allowed to get the silicone implant and had to stick with the saline. As it turns out, she is very pleased with the saline. But this gave rise to an interesting point. Another friend pointed out that in politically conservative, repressive times, big breasts on women become very popular, and in liberal, freewheeling times, small breasts become popular. Clarke: What age are we entering into now? Gregory: Well, clearly we are in a repressive age. Clarke: So there are going to be larger breasts. Gregory: Yes, based on my friend's theory. For example, the fifties were a very repressive age, and we had Marilyn Monroe, Jayne Mansfield. The twenties were a very wild age, and small breasts were popular. You see, his theory is that in a repressive age, people feel the need for nurturing. That's why big breasts become popular. Clarke: Yes. Gregory: Now, my theory is that my friend is confusing cause and effect. Rather than political thought determining breast size, it's the other way around. Clarke: You mean breast size determines political thought? Gregory: Yeah. Big breasts are popular, people look around, they say, "Oh, there's lots of big breasts--they're very big, they're scary, somebody might get their eye put out. I'm going to vote for Buchanan." Clarke: Yeah. Gregory: It's not that "Political times are repressive, ergo we like big breasts" but that "There are a lot of big breasts around, ergo we get scared and we get conservative." And, conversely, like in the sixties you had people like Penelope Tree and Twiggy, and people looked around and said, "Oh, there's lots of small breasts around--it's okay, it's safe. I'm going to join a commune and take drugs." THE THEORY HAS ITS PROS AND CONS. Personally, I don't remember the sixties as a small-breasted era but rather as one when the profile of the breast shifted from the coniferous to the deciduous (hence Penelope Tree). The belief that behind every predominating political climate stands a more or less prominent breast is, however, a theory that is definitely an example of man's age-old quest to ascribe a larger meaning to breasts. If it is true that big breasts cause conservatism (paging Dick Morris), the current climate bodes well for Republicans. This is a big-fitted culture. After dipping precipitously following the FDA ban of silicone implants amid charges that leakage causes autoimmune and connective-tissue disease, the number of breast augmentations recorded by the American Society for Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery has increased 275 percent in the last five years, making it the most rapidly expanding procedure of any cosmetic operation for which statistics are kept. The Wonderbra, introduced in the States in 1994, immediately gave rise, as it were, to a number of copies, imitations, and variants and continues to sell at a brisk clip, with 1998 retail figures of $100 million. Curves--a high-tech silicone falsie, which also immediately gave rise to a number of copies, imitations, and variants--has sold more than five hundred thousand pairs, generating $50 million in retail sales. In short, regardless of whether we vote with our breasts, they are a uniquely marketable body part, both attached to the individual and freestanding. Breasts have a potential for symbolic meaning unequaled by even the primary sexual body parts. Breasts are big business, metaphysically and physically, and big business does have its say in government. The last time falsies and padded bras were this popular--a period that peaked in the fifties and flattened out in the seventies--it was because there was an atmosphere of sexual conservatism and an all-around culture of concealment that necessitated a breast that repressed and returned simultaneously. This time, in a culture in which it has recently been demonstrated that sexual mores have relaxed not so much to the point that there is a less prurient attitude about blow jobs as to the point that it's okay to use the term "blow job" when expressing your prurience publicly; in
Re: FLUXLIST: keeping ahead of culture
I found this while searching for the meaning of life. There is no *connection* in any way between the two. Surfeit of words was not a problem, as was Rod's result. "There are no breasts in politics. Only penises of finite size that are blown to infinite size by overblown verbiage. This election year shall be known by those politicos who can afford to enlarge their little p's with little pills from the big "P" Pfizer. And that is only temporary. And expensive." Sage Woman Fluxevent Female and male. See who gets there first. Make a record. Princess Petal Rod Stasick wrote: i found this while searching for the origins of the purdah. there is, as of now, no *immediate* connection between the two... Esquire 02/01/99 Esquire By UDOVITCH, MIM Magazine: Esquire, February 1999 BREASTS, REASSESSED --- THEIR SUDDEN PROMINENCE IS EITHER AN EMBLEM OF EMPOWERMENT, THE FRUIT OF TECNOLOGICAL ADVANCE, OR A SYMBOL OF THE NEW CULTURE OF FALSENESS THAT PERVADES THE CORRIDORS OF POWER. OR MAYBE IT'S JUST A CAUSE FOR CELEBRATION. A FEW YEARS AGO, the following conversation occurred between a San Francisco radio-talk-show host named Chris Clarke and a caller named Gregory. Gregory: I have a friend who recently had breast reconstruction after having undergone a mastectomy for breast cancer. She was upset because, for the time being, she was not allowed to get the silicone implant and had to stick with the saline. As it turns out, she is very pleased with the saline. But this gave rise to an interesting point. Another friend pointed out that in politically conservative, repressive times, big breasts on women become very popular, and in liberal, freewheeling times, small breasts become popular. Clarke: What age are we entering into now? Gregory: Well, clearly we are in a repressive age. Clarke: So there are going to be larger breasts. Gregory: Yes, based on my friend's theory. For example, the fifties were a very repressive age, and we had Marilyn Monroe, Jayne Mansfield. The twenties were a very wild age, and small breasts were popular. You see, his theory is that in a repressive age, people feel the need for nurturing. That's why big breasts become popular. Clarke: Yes. Gregory: Now, my theory is that my friend is confusing cause and effect. Rather than political thought determining breast size, it's the other way around. Clarke: You mean breast size determines political thought? Gregory: Yeah. Big breasts are popular, people look around, they say, "Oh, there's lots of big breasts--they're very big, they're scary, somebody might get their eye put out. I'm going to vote for Buchanan." Clarke: Yeah. Gregory: It's not that "Political times are repressive, ergo we like big breasts" but that "There are a lot of big breasts around, ergo we get scared and we get conservative." And, conversely, like in the sixties you had people like Penelope Tree and Twiggy, and people looked around and said, "Oh, there's lots of small breasts around--it's okay, it's safe. I'm going to join a commune and take drugs." THE THEORY HAS ITS PROS AND CONS. Personally, I don't remember the sixties as a small-breasted era but rather as one when the profile of the breast shifted from the coniferous to the deciduous (hence Penelope Tree). The belief that behind every predominating political climate stands a more or less prominent breast is, however, a theory that is definitely an example of man's age-old quest to ascribe a larger meaning to breasts. If it is true that big breasts cause conservatism (paging Dick Morris), the current climate bodes well for Republicans. This is a big-fitted culture. After dipping precipitously following the FDA ban of silicone implants amid charges that leakage causes autoimmune and connective-tissue disease, the number of breast augmentations recorded by the American Society for Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery has increased 275 percent in the last five years, making it the most rapidly expanding procedure of any cosmetic operation for which statistics are kept. The Wonderbra, introduced in the States in 1994, immediately gave rise, as it were, to a number of copies, imitations, and variants and continues to sell at a brisk clip, with 1998 retail figures of $100 million. Curves--a high-tech silicone falsie, which also immediately gave rise to a number of copies, imitations, and variants--has sold more than five hundred thousand pairs, generating $50 million in retail sales. In short, regardless of whether we vote with our breasts, they are a uniquely marketable body part, both attached to the individual and freestanding. Breasts have a potential for symbolic meaning unequaled by even the primary sexual body parts. Breasts are
Re: FLUXLIST: EBay and Fluxus..and Europe...
I have an old friend who is married into the largest shipping company in Tibet... but not in Europe :-( sorry Heidi. ~David"e" == "When the last human has died, trees shall cover the earth." "Man is the dream of the dolphin." _ Get premier, free, fast, 6Mb web-based email at --- http://www.nabou.com
FLUXLIST: Website Unseen #44: Homepage for the Haphazard
MTAA are pleased to announce the launch of the latest Website Unseen Title '#44: Homepage for the Haphazard (AKA oopsdotcom)'. please visit MT Enterprises WorldWide http://www.mteww.com to view the artwork. Follow the link in the Website Unseen section of the main page under the 'Titles ready for viewing' section. Website Unseen #44: Homepage for The Haphazard (AKA oopsdotcom) was commissioned by The Northern Gallery of Contemporary Art for inclusion in the 'Use nor Ornament' exhibition. special note to the Website Unseen #100 contributors and participants: please be patient. MTAA have 2 more commissions to complete for the Use nor Ornament exhibition and then the Website Unseen #100 will be at the top of our agenda. -- = = = t.whid http://www.mteww.com
Re: FLUXLIST: EBay and Fluxus..and Europe...
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22shipping+costs%22+U.S.+Germany Here's what a google search turned up. Good luck, Heiko. Best,PK Heiko Recktenwald wrote: We had this topic some time ago. A warehouse of old goods, american civilisation. Well, has anybody experiences, are you experienced, with a transfer of goods to europe ? (Mustnt be ebay goods.) How much would a "safe" transport of an old computer cost ? 25, 50 or 100 $$ ?? European currencies are low, nice for the european industries, french agriculture, but bad for me, at least in this case. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: scientific notation / Durrell
"Josh O. Ronsen" wrote: ps: Roger, don't give Princess Petal the definition to conceptual art: she would only abuse it in her dePraved, aPPalling, Pernicious, reProbate, rePrehensible Petal Plans... Or am I thinking of someone else? Princess Petal paws at your perspective and presages your plebian predictability with her prowess at previous predictions of preconceptual art. plih. (my new word, put your tongue just barely sticking out at the emergent point of your lips, between your teeth and say "plih" you'll feel much better.) Pincess Petal P.S. Princess Petal proscribes pleather for all your pleasurable prescriptions, proboscis or not, (but then, you're not a butterfly so we'll forget that last one) Petal Plans will arrive soon, you preter prelieve it, once she tackles her preternatural piles of papers and plies. P.P.S. Prince Proger is within plinches of his plimepiece debut online, so he'll proffer the pliece of paper if he pleases (we're just trying to arrange the background sound). --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Before you buy.
FLUXLIST: Fwd: Digital Art is not DEAD. it's unborn. it's eBay.
in the email today... From: Julie Nelms [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Digital Art is not DEAD. it's unborn. Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:40:08 -0500 This is my story: maybe you agree, disagree or think my work looks better as wallpaper on your desktop. Yesterday I posted a digital photomontage for sale on ebay. My gig is to sell my digital artwork in the same format from creation to completion; as a digital file, but still as art. "Sure you can do that so long as they are more than 72 dpi so that folks can print them out" say my pixel-pusher pals. And so it appears there is little to no acceptance for digital art, even amongst the digital artists themselves. It's easily digested when functional, within the context of a web site, but set Digital art on the level of say photography, design or collage and it's seen as useless as a slide without a projector. I beg to differ. So goes my little experiment, with hopes that my work will not go ignored for the wrong reasons. Whether or not you like the work doesn't matter, its whether you accept the medium and view technology as an instrument and as art. As a dual concept the photomontage works are viewable on ebay in actual size, without watermark or signage. My friends say it's crazy, that even if someone likes the work it will be downloaded with no bids or sale/profit for the artist. The consensus is that folks will not pay for what they can easily steal; a theory not unfamiliar on the web. By selling my work in this way, I want to bring awareness to intellectual property rights on the web. Intellectual property rights is not an issue exclusive to music. Visual artists will be much more affected with the growing attentions to digital work then they are at present. I deal with this as a theme in my work within my own site. It's an issue not much debated perhaps because what we expect to occur is what we hold to be true; no one will pay for what is openly exposed on the www landscape, and not at a time when the rules are just beginning to be written. That's not to say we need more policing or restrictions; I can't possibly create the solution for this issue despite its effects on me and my work. The freedom of the web is fantastic; the accessibility of information is a gift and both the actual and potential for artistic exchange is phenomenal. I've seen the benefit on sites like halfbakery.com where ideas and exchanges are free as water. I both save and borrow from other digital artists' work for reference and for my collage. Maybe I'm seen as a thief as well? I have eight days left on my auction, so let's get bidding. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=472629715 Photoshoplifters of the world unite! Julie Nelms www.istoleyour.com
