date:20050516





OK Then.

So I will begin. 
Feel free to chime in.

THE ALL NEW FLUXNEXUS PLASTIC ARTS STUDIO COMPANION


DRAWING WORKSHOP


DRAWING PROJECT 001 (for developing concentration and dexterity)
Materials

  Large sheet of paper
  sharpened #4B Artist Drawing Pencil
  An Erasure

On the floor or an adequately sized work table or desk lay out your
sheet of paper.
With your left hand (if your right handed or with your right of your
left handed) take up the sharpened pencil
In your other hand (hoping that you have two) take up the erasure.
Begin drawing a line on the paper and as you do so begin erasing the
line the best you can simultaneously
Continue until pencil lead requires resharpening.
Resharpen pencil
Repeat as needed up to 30 minutes daily as a warm up until able to do
exercise comfortably.
Save drawings for a future project.

FLUXLIST: Proposal for a New FluxMember Starter Kit - Part One: A Collection of Ideas About Fluxus (expanded slightly)

A Collection of Ideas About Fluxus

"...it was meant to be a long-lasting idea or tradition with continuing
converts and practitioners. That is the way I look at it and that is
the way I deal with it. I think it should be
open to anyone who wants to practice it.
" [Don Boyd]

"I think what makes Fluxus so dynamic and interesting to me is that
there is no definition - I wish people would just accept that. The
appealing idea is that Fluxus is inclusive. Artists spend most of their
careers being rejected which is why Fluxus is so refreshing..." [Dawg]

"Fluxus is not a moment in history, or an art movement. Fluxus is a way
of doing things, a tradition, and a way of life and death." [Dick
Higgins]*

"Fluxus is more valuable as an idea and a potential for social change
than as a specific group of people or a collection of objects." [Ken
Friedman

<>"1) Fluxus makes the mundane magical., 2) Fluxus happens when one feels that life and art must
be taken so, seriously, that it becomes
impossible to take life or art seriously. 3)
Ordinary acts and ordinary objects perceived in extraordinary ways."
[Allan Revich]

three obvious things about Fluxus by [Allen
Bukoff]

Fluxus is more than Art.
It's bigger than that. To confine it to being understood as being
primarily a phenomenon in the realm of art is to let it die.
Fluxus can still be a vibrant and energetic force. By
refusing or failing to recognize this for the last 20 years, you have
been letting Fluxus die.
Fluxus is bigger than you.
Fluxus is bigger than the initial group or Fluxers, it's bigger than
Maciunas. You guys didn't finish off or "complete" the Fluxus project,
you just got it started! Many others have come to Fluxus with new
Fluxus ideas and projects, and many of you haven't even bothered to
notice. By confining Fluxus to yourselves, you are letting it die.

"I have no idea how to answer!" [Alan Bowman]

"Why on earth we would want to(say what it is)?" [Alan Bowman]

"40 years after the first fluxus ventures the word has come to signify much more than it ever did and the world has come to expect more from fluxus than there ever was." [Alan Bowman]

"Fluxus is the "event" according to George Brecht:
putting the flower vase on the piano.
Fluxus is the action of life/music: sending for a tango
expert in order to be able to dance on stage.
Fluxus is the creation of a relationship between life and art,
Fluxus is gag, pleasure and shock,
Fluxus is an attitude towards art, towards the non-art of anti-art, towards the negation of one's ego,
Fluxus is the major part of the education as to John Cage, Dadaism and Zen,
Fluxus is light and has a sense of humor." [Ben Vautier]

"fluxus has been hijacked, adopted, assimilated, morphed, borrowed, plagiarised, reworked, overworked and overblown and we've made something else out of it." [Alan Bowman]
"Fluxus is
inside you, is part of how you are. It isn't just a bunch of things and
dramas but is part of how you live. It is beyond words." [Dick Higgins]

"Perhaps
its time for a new fluxus manifesto." [Alan Bowman]

"It is important
that we define fluxus 'now'. [Alan Bowman]

"Try to imagine
being in a room with ben vautier, emmett williams, ay-o, jean dupuy,
philip corner, yoko ono, nam june paik, takako saito, serge III, ken
friedman, dick higgins, alison knowles, yoshi wada, geoff
hendricks,larry miller, george brecht, etc, etc, etc.work out from
there what fluxus is! and then look at your on work - what's the
criteria?" [Alan Bowman]

"In my
expereience the people we know to have been involved in fluxus, don't
really believe that it exists." [Alan Bowman]

"What’s said about ducks might help out here
... If
something walks and quakes like a duck it is, in all probability, a
duck ... or perhaps it could be a drake ... so if thing>
looks, sounds smells, tastes and/or feels like fluxus, in all
probability, it is fluxus . or it could be fluxus>
masquerading as neoist> or visa versa
... then again it could be any number of things even zing>
maybe? ... in all probability, it’s much easier trying to work out
if you’re a duck ... or a drake ... or concrete>
... than it might be trying to work out whether or not you’re
fluxus ... the bit>, it seems, is knowing
just exactly what fluxus looks, sounds smells, tastes and/or feels
like." [Ray Norman]
"Someone is going to have to take the horn by the bulls." [Alan Bowman]

"Stop worrying about the past. If you want to be fluxus, be fluxus that's fine. But be prepared for opposition. Unfortunately the sheer inability to define fluxus as one concrete thing is always going to stir shit up. [Alan Bowman]

"In Fluxus there has never been any attempt to agree on aims or methods; individuals with something unnameable in common have simply naturally coalesced to publish and perform their work. Perhaps this common something is a feeling that the bounds of art are much wider than they have conventionally seemed, or that art and certain long-established b

RE: [fluxnexus] Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS

In the book, Beck & Al Hansen: Playing With Matches, Al Hansen says:

"Anyone who thinks Fluxus is serious misses the point. One who thinks
Fluxus is not serious is closer to the point, but still misses the point. A
unique thing about Fluxus is it is also not "in-between." Fluxus is not
between "this" and "that." Fluxus is everywhere at once. And nowhere. Its
secret is - it does not really exist - but it exists. In that way Fluxus is
like God - it might not exists. But we talk about God and we talk about
Fluxus." 


Allan Revich 

The Fluxus Blog
http://www.digitalsalon.com/weblog/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Don Boyd
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 3:04 PM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: Re: [fluxnexus] Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS

I have a few more thoughts to add to this discussion, which I think is good.

George and Dick Higgins did not always agree to what Fluxus was and I do not
think we need to agree. Dick was joint with George in developing Fluxus
philosophy or aesthetics and I think Ken Friedman is the rightful inheritor
of that role. Who is to say who will succeed him? I think there will always
need to be such a person. The analogy is often made or was often made
between Fluxus and Christianity or we could probably say "religion' in that
it was meant to be a long-lasting idea or tradition with continuing converts
and practioners. That is the way I look at it and that is the way I deal
with it. If we examine that analogy- religious groups are usually anxious
for converts but it is up to them to define the qualifications and
"accept"new members. However, most churches are not very strict about this
qualification because Christ was not. He said, "All you have to do is ask." 
(I don'y know what other religious leaders require) One aspect  of this
situation (analogy to religion) which bothers me is what I see as the Greek
fraternity aspect on college campuses. I was an " independent" at Ohio State
and ran for political office as such because I was very much against the
"old boy" aspect of fraternities at that time. I am still against that
attitude and I am against it as regards Fluxus. I think it should be open to
anyone who wants to practice it. -Don Boyd



http://www.doneboyd.com
check out my website for the latest images!

FLUXLIST: THIS WILL BE OUR ABSOLUTE ENDEAVOR







Is your_family prepared for the next terrorist
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My thoughts were;
What kind of terror attack was this?
I needed  more information...
but none of the cable or radio stations had information.
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My fears were real. 
My frustrations were real. 
My feeling of ineptness was real.
I recommend you follow my lead and do the same!

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Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS




A Collection of Ideas About 
Fluxus"...it was meant to be a long-lasting idea or 
tradition with continuing converts and practitioners. That is the way I look at 
it and that is the way I deal with it." [Don Boyd]"I think what makes 
Fluxus so dynamic and interesting to me is that there is no definition - I wish 
people would just accept that. The appealing idea is that Fluxus is inclusive. 
Artists spend most of their careers being rejected which is why Fluxus is so 
refreshing..." [Dawg]"Fluxus is not a moment in history, or an art 
movement. Fluxus is a way of doing things, a tradition, and a way of life and 
death." [Dick Higgins]*"Fluxus is more valuable as an idea and a 
potential for social change than as a specific group of people or a collection 
of objects." [Ken Friedman]*This is how I see Fluxus as well.I 
posted something back in March that works for me and seems to fit:

  1) Fluxus makes the mundane magical.2) Fluxus happens when one 
  feels that life and art must be taken soseriously, that it becomes 
  impossible to take life or art seriously.3) Ordinary acts and ordinary 
  objects perceived in extraordinary ways.
Allan Revich
 
 
* from http://www.artnotart.com/fluxus/kfriedman-fourtyyears.html

Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS

2005-05-16 Thread thejv

the pursuit of nothingness, an escapade in defying definition for pure 
essence of experience that defines its own history without attachment 
to interpretation of what went before.

-Original Message-
From: Don Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Sent: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:17:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS
  Dear Alan, Those were good thoughts and good achievements you listed. 
Pretty much my sentiments except don't care whether I'm considered 
Fluxus or not, just DO IT. History will decide. Life is what counts! 
-Don

http://www.doneboyd.com
check out my website for the latest images!

Re: [fluxnexus] Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS

2005-05-16 Thread Don Boyd

I have a few more thoughts to add to this discussion, which I think is good. 
George and Dick Higgins did not always agree to what Fluxus was and I do not 
think we need to agree. Dick was joint with George in developing Fluxus 
philosophy or aesthetics and I think Ken Friedman is the rightful inheritor 
of that role. Who is to say who will succeed him? I think there will always 
need to be such a person. The analogy is often made or was often made 
between Fluxus and Christianity or we could probably say "religion' in that 
it was meant to be a long-lasting idea or tradition with continuing
converts and practioners. That is the way I look at it and that is the way I 
deal with it. If we examine that analogy- religious groups are usually 
anxious for converts but it is up to them to define the qualifications and 
"accept"new members. However, most churches are not very strict about this 
qualification because Christ was not. He said, "All you have to do is ask." 
(I don'y know what other religious leaders require)
One aspect  of this situation (analogy to religion) which bothers me is what 
I see as the Greek
fraternity aspect on college campuses. I was an " independent" at Ohio State 
and ran for political office as such because I was very much against the 
"old boy" aspect of fraternities at that time. I am still against that 
attitude and I am against it as regards Fluxus. I think it should be open to 
anyone who wants to practice it. -Don Boyd


http://www.doneboyd.com
check out my website for the latest images!

FLUXLIST: Why Jinks

2005-05-16 Thread John M. Bennett




Why Jinks




ache my esactius

window foul

ha puc




epacs needle
os you emosluf

tub




stop will
tap ringworm
cup natter




John M. Bennett


__
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Curator, Avant Writing Collection
Rare Books & Manuscripts Library
The Ohio State University Libraries
1858 Neil Av Mall
Columbus, OH 43210 USA

(614) 292-3029
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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FLUXLIST: Drowning

2005-05-16 Thread John M. Bennett




Drowning




lap yr dop ragus
heap melt





gnimaets  ,elip

enutrof, hap clock




cheap sgub

an bit rice




your gnippos teeth




John M. Bennett


__
Dr. John M. Bennett 
Curator, Avant Writing Collection
Rare Books & Manuscripts Library
The Ohio State University Libraries
1858 Neil Av Mall
Columbus, OH 43210 USA

(614) 292-3029
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS

2005-05-16 Thread Don Boyd

Dear Alan, Those were good thoughts and good achievements you listed. Pretty 
much my sentiments except  don't care whether  I'm considered Fluxus or not, 
just DO IT. History will decide. Life is what counts! -Don


http://www.doneboyd.com
check out my website for the latest images!

Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS

2005-05-16 Thread Carol Starr

hi fluxsters

you have me thinking...that in itself can be rare.

am i a fluxus artist? no

do i like fluxus? very much indeed

does it influence my life as an artist? you bet it does

would i miss all of you if you went away? can't stand to even think of
it (resounding yes)

another thought:

just because my plastic art stems from rothko, newman, louis and i am
primarily interested in colour interaction doesn't make me an ab ex

so why would i think that if i do a few scores i should be classified as fluxus?

bests, carol
xx

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxdrink Time

2005-05-16 Thread Ann Klefstad

Title: Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxdrink Time



Ach nei— it’s my view that ingestion is a perfectly personal affair. But if people would like to note what they’re hoisting and if they wish why (what does the drink do to them, what’s the desired result?) that would be lovely. As noted, I usually think of drinks as dissolving something and leaving something in its place (water solvent to thirst, precipitates gratitude; whiskey solvent to thought, precipitates presence; milk solvent to oreos, precipitates memory and/or shame, so often the same thing; gin and tonic solvent to winter, precipates the desire to shed shoes; etc etc) --perhaps interesting to play this. 

An agreed time— solstice, Midummer’s Day? (I believe called in England, what, St. John’s Eve, or Beltane, or some such?) Sundown? So it’s not simultaneous but rippling like a wave over the surface of darkening earth?

On 5/16/05 9:48 AM, "Allan Revich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I was thinking that at an agreed time GMT we all get together virtually with the Fluxdrink our choice and raise a glass to the Fluxlist. Since Ann has asked the really hard intellectual-type questions, perhaps she can volunteer to score the Fluxdrink event?
 
Allan
 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Klefstad
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:11 AM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: ALLANISM
 

8) Let’s have a Fluxdrink together sometime soon!
 
Allan Revich




A Fluxdrink! 
What is it a solvent for? 
What does it precipitate? 
Recipes-- 

AK

Re: [fluxnexus] Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS





Hi Al(l)(e/a)n,

Yes I am impressed with Ken's clear and direct thinking in a lot of his
essays. I think he is really great. The bad part about it is, it is so
clear that one tends not to question it and I wonder about that. I mean
I wonder is it actually 12 or did he just like that number. Or he got
tired because it was midnight and stopped at twelve or possibly just
wanted to have several more than Dick Higgins nine points (maybe out of
competition or for a joke.) Just becuase ken said it does that make it
true? Were those elements actually present in fluxworks from the getgo?
Of course not. Personally I think you could add a 100 more or possibly
take out six if you stopped to think about it very deeply. That could
be an interesting meditation.

Meditation-0022
Consider the 12 fluxus ideas of Ken Friedman
Is 12 the right number?
Is it really some greater or lesser number?
Is it actually some other group of criteria?
Is there actually any criteria for determinng a fluxus work's fluxicity?
Explain.

Allan Revich wrote:

  
  
  

  
  BTW:
  I
also agree with Ken Friedman’s definition,
which may in fact be the best of all, as it accomplishes both
succinctness and
inclusiveness:
  globalism,
the unity of art and life,
intermedia,
experimentalism,
chance,
playfulness,
simplicity,
implicativeness,
exemplativism,
specificity,
presence in time, and
musicality.

FLUXLIST: Fluxdrink Time

Title: Re: FLUXLIST:  ALLANISM








I was thinking that at an agreed time GMT
we all get together virtually with the Fluxdrink our choice and raise a glass
to the Fluxlist. Since Ann has asked the really hard intellectual-type
questions, perhaps she can volunteer to score the Fluxdrink event?

 

Allan

 









From: owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com [mailto:owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com] On Behalf Of Ann Klefstad
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:11
AM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: ALLANISM



 




8) Let’s have a
Fluxdrink together sometime soon!
 
Allan Revich







A Fluxdrink! 


 What is it a solvent for? 
 What does it precipitate? 
 Recipes--



AK

FLUXLIST: fluxdrink 1 & 2




Fluxdrink 1: hot liquid



very hot coffee served in a soluble cup



Fluxdrink 2: difficult liquid



glass



to be served over several hundred years





ab ve 16/V/05

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http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/

FLUXLIST: allanuses of the world....




that idea stinks: allanus.

Cecil





oh i don't know, a good name for me when i disappear up my own backside ;-)

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Re: FLUXLIST: ALLANISM

2005-05-16 Thread Ann Klefstad

Title: Re: FLUXLIST:  ALLANISM




8) Let’s have a Fluxdrink together sometime soon!
 
Allan Revich


 

A Fluxdrink! 
What is it a solvent for?
What does it precipitate?
Recipes--

AK

Re: FLUXLIST: ALLANISM





Al(l)(e/a)n

That is really good. 
The master key to all of those confusing spellings. 
I was considering just Al for everybody.

Cecil 



Allan Revich wrote:

  
  


  
  
  
  1) Sorry again Allan! I don't know why I keep hitting the e
  (Old habits
die hard! I appreciate that
you are trying)
   
  2) For
all of the Allans
involved maybe we should start allanism or allanon 
or maybe take the 'flux' out of fluxus and put allan in...well maybe
that idea
stinks: allanus.
Cecil
  (Thanks for the offer, but the
world has too many isms
[and too many Al(l)(e/a)ns?] already – google me and you will find mine
–
I am pretty content with Fluxus, whatever it may be)
   
  3) I like Alan Bowman
  4) I like Cecil Touchon
  5) I like Madawg
  6) I like the Fluxlist
  7) Let’s all be friends
  8) Let’s have a Fluxdrink
together sometime
soon!
   
  Allan
Revich
  
  
   
  
  
  
  From:
owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com
[mailto:owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com]
  On Behalf Of Cecil
Touchon
  Sent: Monday, May 16,
2005 9:18 AM
  To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
  Subject: FLUXLIST:
ALLANISM
  
   
  For all of the Allans involved
maybe we should start
allanism or allanon 
or maybe take the 'flux' out of fluxus and put allan in...well maybe
that idea
stinks: allanus.
Cecil
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  
  
  
Sorry again Allan! I don't know why I keep hitting the e
    
  
   
  cheaper than cocaine?
   
   
   
  Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG 
  http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/

RE: FLUXLIST: ALLANISM







1) Sorry again Allan! I don't know why I keep hitting the e

(Old habits die hard! I appreciate that
you are trying)

 

2) For all of the Allans
involved maybe we should start allanism or allanon 
or maybe take the 'flux' out of fluxus and put allan in...well maybe that idea
stinks: allanus.
Cecil

(Thanks for the offer, but the world has too many isms
[and too many Al(l)(e/a)ns?] already – google me and you will find mine –
I am pretty content with Fluxus, whatever it may be)

 

3) I like Alan Bowman

4) I like Cecil Touchon

5) I like Madawg

6) I like the Fluxlist

7) Let’s all be friends

8) Let’s have a Fluxdrink together sometime
soon!

 

Allan Revich



 









From: owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com
[mailto:owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com]
On Behalf Of Cecil Touchon
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:18 AM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: FLUXLIST: ALLANISM



 

For all of the Allans involved maybe we should start
allanism or allanon 
or maybe take the 'flux' out of fluxus and put allan in...well maybe that idea
stinks: allanus.
Cecil

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Sorry again Allan! I don't know why I keep hitting the e    

 cheaper than cocaine?   Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/

RE: [fluxnexus] Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS









BTW:

I also agree with Ken Friedman’s definition,
which may in fact be the best of all, as it accomplishes both succinctness and
inclusiveness:

globalism,
the unity of art and life,
intermedia,
experimentalism,
chance,
playfulness,
simplicity,
implicativeness,
exemplativism,
specificity,
presence in time, and
musicality.

FLUXLIST: ALLANISM





For all of the Allans involved maybe we should start allanism or
allanon 
or maybe take the 'flux' out of fluxus and put allan in...well maybe
that idea stinks: allanus.
Cecil

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
Sorry again Allan! I don't know why I keep hitting the e

  
  
cheaper than cocaine?



Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG 
http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/

FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC CUPS




>Sorry again Allan! I don't know why I keep hitting the e



cheaper than cocaine?





Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG 

http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/

Re: Re: FLUXLIST: FLUXUS AND THE PLASTIC ARTS


>Allan Bowman reveals a similar bias and - even knowing a >lot of these 
people personally won't claim to be a part of it - >presumably because of his 
precieved weak position historically >or in terms of attitude or in terms of 
not being considered "in" >by the in crowd or through personal experience 
decided that they >were some completely other sort of people that he at first 
>thought and wants nothing to do with them.  (please inform us of >the reality 
of that allan - I am just stirring the pot here).



i don't claim to part if it because i'm not!  i don't feel a part of it, i like 
the people, i like some of what they are doing and a lot of what they have 
done.  my cousin's husband used to play for sunderland, i like him but i still 
support newcastle.

if you go back through  the fluxlist archives you will see that i have changed 
my tune somewhat over the years.  i think that if people want to used the 
fluxus name then there has to be some sort of move take it on and stop worrying 
about the past.  if you want to be fluxus, be fluxus that's fine.  but be 
prepared for opposition.  unfortunately the sheer inability to define fluxus as 
one concrete thing  is always going to stir shit up.  i no longer wish to be 
classed as a fluxus artist, i dont think the name fits, it just doesn't feel 
right to me.  i'm not sure why, perhaps it has got something to do with working 
with these people!  seeing that the fluxus tag doesn't really fit them either 
(in my head!) as they are all so different and do such different stuff, think 
different things.

i can't work out what it is that makes each one fluxus, i have difficulty in 
using that to classify such things.  i can't even classify my own work as i 
have no set media or way of working and do different things for very different 
reasons - even if the motive is often hard for me to work out.  in the past i 
would have been happy to have been lumped in as a fluxus artist, for extremely 
cynical reasons the mistake has proved useful in the past.  the high point in 
my career (ahem!) was when ben and emily chose 3 pieces of mine to go in a 
'Fluxus' show when the established artists only got to send one.  i like 
fluxus, i'm inspired by fluxus, i have performed fluxus with fluxus and have 
shown with fluxus.  does that make me fluxus?



i don't think so, the sad thing is that i don't REALLY know why any more, not 
that i think about it a lot really.  perhaps it's the frustration of not being 
able to put a name to what i do, to make it easier to explain (a refernce 
point), that i have come to live with, makes it difficult for me to understand 
why so many wish to be called fluxus and then wish to discuss it.  don't get me 
wrong, i am not against people doing so, i even wear my fluxus midwest pin with 
pride.  

Ahh!! now that's interesting!  i am happy to align myself with allen's fluxus 
midwest...h.

perhaps i'm just scared of eric andersen?



anyway, i was just airing a point of view, not terribly well but i tried!  i'm 
just interested in trying to redefine fluxus for the 21st century (i can't but 
i like to see what others think) and am fascinated by the way it has 
effected/affected people. 



with apologies, my attention span is at about 90 seconds max at the moment 
which is making life somewhat difficlut to organise.  you should have seen 
class 4's maths lesson this morning, they were better behaved than me!



alan

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