FLUXLIST: Fw:

2004-10-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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100(11) Instruction Works  www.ikatun.com/100-11/
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Tonight iKatun kicks off 7a*11d's 5th International Perf-
ormance Art Festival with the performance of the first of 
eleven instruction works. This performance will take place 
at 7PM at the opening reception for the festival at 401 
Richmond St., Toronto, Canada.

Each day of the festival, iKatun will be performing one 
instruction work somewhere in Toronto from those submitted to 
the project website:

www.ikatun.com/100-11/

Tonight, iKatun will infiltrate the opening reception for the 
festival with the below instruction:


DAY #1: INSTRUCTION #42 -- "the Grotesque"

A person [or a few persons] enters - a stage or something - 
and stops. Then slowly starts taking off the shirt, slowly 
turning it inside out and then putting it back on again. This 
goes on until all garments are turned inside out. When fin-
ished the performer exits. If performed by more than one the performance can be 
organized so that the performers are taking 
off and turning different clothes inside out at the same time 
(somone takes of shirt as someone takes of trousers as someone 
etc).

Submitted by Robert Ek [ http://bekant.org/ ], Sweden, 2004-09-29 12:27:43
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WAYS TO PARTICIPATE:

CONTRIBUTE AN INSTRUCTION WORK:
www.ikatun.com/100-11/

WATCH THE WEBCAST by INTERACCESS
Video will be posted each day
http://www.interaccess.org/ia.php?pg=kanarinka

READ THE BLOG
Photos and log will be posted each day
www.ikatun.com/100-11/

WALK WITH US TO PERFORM OR OBSERVE
Meet any day for the next 10 days at 9AM at the coffee shop at 401 Richmond
St, Toronto, Canada. Each performance first involves a walk to an
undetermined destination - wear good shoes.

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FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V4 #705

2004-09-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For excellent American example of emo check out
Bedford. Called the Husker Du of emo. Their discs
are "Smiles are the batteries" and "Spaceships,Sex
and Jealosy". You can get the CDs through Microcosm
(www.microcosmpublishing.com) or Interpunk 
(www.interpunk.com).



FLUXLIST: books for sale

2004-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello all,

I have a couple of Fluxus-related books I'd like
to sell: Emmett Williams MY LIFE IN FLUX AND VICE VERSA
and the FLUXATTITUDES catalogue. Anyone interested
in either please contact me off-list for price/details.

Reed



FLUXLIST: books for sale

2004-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello all,

I have a couple of Fluxus-related books I'd like
to sell: Emmett Williams MY LIFE IN FLUX AND VICE VERSA
and the FLUXATTITUDES catalogue. Anyone interested
in either please contact me off-list for price/details.

Reed



FLUXLIST: books for sale

2004-09-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello all,

I have a couple of Fluxus-related books I'd like
to sell: Emmett Williams MY LIFE IN FLUX AND VICE VERSA
and the FLUXATTITUDES catalogue. Anyone interested
in either please contact me off-list for price/details.

Reed



FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V4 #692

2004-09-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Alan,

I have absolutely no complaints, or at least no legitimate 
ones. Thanks for posting it. The image in question is me
wearing a George Maciunas mask (from a Peter Moore photo)
sent to me by the New England mail-art Fluxist Steve Random
from the Fluxmass at Rutgers last year. He has always 
been willing provide me with fun and amusing Fluxrelics
from various Fluxfests he's attended over the years.
I've made a stampsheet from the image. Anyone on Fluxlist
who wants one (they're not printed yet), just send your 
postal address off-list and I'll be happy to send one on
in a week or two.

Reed

PS some of you (you know who you are) will be getting copies
anyways since you're on my Fluxlist mailing list. Speaking of 
which what ever happened to the new Fluxlist address book
someone (I forget who) was working on?

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:28:04 +0200
From: "Alan Bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FLUXLIST: Portrait of SecretFluxus update XI

Dear Surge and Mad'uns,

The Freeformfreakout Organisation is really rather chuffed to announce
another addition to the 'Portrait of SecretFluxus' project.

Reed Altemus' piece can be seen at
http://art.supereva.it/alanfffo.superdada/secretfluxus/reed.html and not
only is it well worth a look but it comes in two sizes too!!  Nothing but
the best for our clients you know!





FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST- stark bonks

2004-08-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

John,
I think I was sin fingers last week if that helps 
any. At the moment I'm drum tundra but I'm pretty 
sure that won't last. 
Cheers, 
Reed 
Resident Knucklehead





FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST Sun Ra/ Mail-Art

2004-07-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]




That Szwed book's great.  Just to let you know also that Space is the Place(Sun Ra's 
movie) has been re-released on DVD and also includes some home movies of the arkestra 
in Egypt. It seems to be available everywhere (the usual Amazon etc.)

thanks for the heads up on this, Sol.

Oh, Reed thanks for the mail art...will reply soon

your welcome! I'll look forward to it.

Reed



Re: FLUXLIST: Is it art?

2004-07-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Don,
I suppose it's art in the same way that a sign from which
some letters have fallen off making the sign's message 
incoherent is a found poem. Reed Altemus

I received several items in the mail recently. This morning 
I looked at them and then stacked them all together to take 
to my truck. As I looked down two of them fell open. One was 
a color photography book by Robert Hirsch, "Exploring Color Photography," and on the 
back cover was a photo of a large
moth. Next to that photo was the cover of a "Birds and Blooms,
" magazine with a similar moth, in color so that it appeared 
as if it was another page of the same book/magazine. It gave 
me quite a shock or as Picasso would say, "A leap in the 
imagination." Was this art? -Don Boyd








FLUXLIST: summer reading/pronunciations

2004-07-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just finished the Susan Sontag anthology
of Artaud' writings while simultaneously
reading the excellent biography of Sun Ra
by John Szwed. Now I'm in the middle of
Samuel Butler's "Erewhon" and just started 
a book I found today called "World of the 
Maya".

Maciunas is pronounced  ma chewn ass with
a short a   fluxus is pronounced flukes us
the first u is long and the second u short. 
It took a while before I found out also 
because I had only read about it.

Reed



FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V4 #604

2004-07-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks to Madawg for the wonderful Princess Petal
commemortive booklet which arrived today! Very nice
job. Felt happy to be included and glad to be able
to spend a few moments remembering a friend.

Reed



FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V4 #554

2004-06-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Alice,
Hi. Mailing address is the same:

Reed Altemus
P.O. Box 52
Portland, ME  04112 USA 
New email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: +1 (207) 879 6337

Thanks a lot for doing this- I used the last
one for one mailing and had some very nice 
responses. A useful networking tool...

Reed










FLUXLIST: RE: Ben Patterson:s 70th birthday

2004-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am writing from \tokyo--\ben has arrived by Orient \express according to
\george Maciunas` wishes for his 70th birthday--we are going to caravan to
Mt. \fuji where \ayo has organized about 30 performances of \fluxus artists
on the mountain--don:t know much else except it is an event not to be
missed sponsored by \gallery 360 degrees in \tokyo--I have just passed my
70th and wanted you all to know that on 29 May we will be on Mt. \fuji.

Judith \a. Hoffberg
aka Umbrella

Original Message:
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From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (FLUXLIST-digest)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:57:33 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FLUXLIST-digest V4 #442



FLUXLIST-digest Tuesday, May 25 2004 Volume 04 : Number 442



In this issue:
==

   Re: FLUXLIST: I survived FLUXLIST and what is Fluxus?
   Re: FLUXLIST: I survived FLUXLIST and what is Fluxus?

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Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:54:58 -0400
From: "suse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: I survived FLUXLIST and what is Fluxus?

I am interested in the piece.
Actually, though I am absolutely nobody, I gathered up a group of folks who
have been influenced by fluxus and planned to hold an exhibition this month.
Plans generally evolved into the mud over at Birdland where the event was to
be held. It will be revived again in the future--meantime energies are being
directed toward The Buttonwood Tree. www.buttonwood.org. PS ANYONE out there
with an interest in site design is welcome to come up with a new site for
The Buttonwood Tree--we are perhaps changing the name as we go through a
process similar to mitosis--perhaps simply 'The Button'--someone is already
designated to design otherparts such as NOMA,
etc.
- - Original Message ----- 
From: "Owen Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: FLUXLIST: I survived FLUXLIST and what is Fluxus?


> Wow! All I did was not check my email for a couple of days and the list
exploded with a flurry of posts.  As I read through them what struck me was
regardless of the nature and direction - what has beeen generated is a
really interesting series of
> statements about fluxus, history, art, theory and the connections between
them, so for a reader point of view thank you all.
>
> As some of you know I am currently editing a special issue of Visible
Language on Fluxus, but not the usual historical stuff, more on fluxus as an
ongoing aesthetic/cultural phenomena. I am planing/hopeing to include
materials by artists who are not
> necessarily fluxus in the historical sense but have been influenced by or
see their work and iideas in relation to fluxus -  so all the posted
comments have been very interesting for me to read and I have quite enjoyed
all the variety of issues and
> statements. And in the end, I guess what it says to me is that fluxus is
still alive, at least in relivance, otherwise not so many of you would feel
the way you do, and that is a good thing. . . .
>
> I am also working on a piece for the issue that might be relivant to these
discussions so I am sending it along. It is in rough draft format and I
intend to expand it with more current practices/examples, but none-the-less
I will include it here for
> your consisderation, and if you are not interested please just ignore the
rest of this post.
>
> Owen
>
>
> Owen
>
>

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Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 17:07:27 -0400
From: "Owen Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: I survived FLUXLIST and what is Fluxus?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I am interested in the piece.


Sorry the piece did not come throught the last time - here it is for anyone
who is interested. 

Also Suse tell me more about this show, it sounds very interesting even if
it did not happen this time.

Owen




As evidenced by the existence of this publication Fluxus is increasingly
becoming the object of scholarly consideration. In the last ten years there
have been an ever-increasing number of exhibitions, journal publications
and even books on Fluxus.
In light of this growing recognition and attention I would suggest that we
should ask ourselves,  "What is the nature of the information that we are
gaining and at what expense is this knowledge being accrued?" It may seem
peculiar to suggest that
the acquisition of knowledge about Fluxus and the construction of a history
of Fluxus is somehow detrimental, but I believe that this is often the case
and I would therefore argue that we must consider not only the particulars
through which a
history of Fluxus might be developed but also what such a process does to
our awareness/understanding of Fluxus or even to Fluxus itself.

There are two principal concerns which should be addressed: the first is
that many of the traditional accepted 

Re:FLUXLIST: NYC 11-16-03

2003-11-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I'm going to be in New York on the 16th (this coming Sunday) for the 
> Postcards from the Edge show to benefit the VisualAIDS project. The show is
> from 3-6pm at Galerie Lelong at 528 West 26th (between 10th and 11th).
> Anyone interested in meeting?


me me me me me ! ! ! ! !

however though but - i shall be stuck here in ol' venice town, trying desperately to 
catch the flu or anything that would warrant a week off work.

and fretting over the fact that
i/ i won't be able to meet melissa in ol' NYC.  (which in times past  proved to be a 
most enjoyable thing (until bukoff showed up!))
ii/ roger stevens is coming to venice on his jollies

darlink melissa have a pint of bass for me and a jolly good time too

is meryl the peril going to be there?

alan









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FLUXLIST: la poesia xe bea

2003-10-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babelfishinglese>italiano

Bangalore, Mangalore, Chandernagore, galore.
Sicomoro, sophomore del sagamore,
Mattamore.
Ancora, evermore, nevermore,
diasporo del forevermore,
zoospore, endospore.
Megaspore, microspore, tetraspore.
Aplanospore di Exospore.
Dinosaur di Chickasaw, elasmosaur di Megalosaur,
Plesiosaur, Tyrannosaur. Titanosaur.
Humidor di d'Or di Louis.
Stevedore di Cuspidor. Lobsterthermidore.
Labrador matador, picador adore.
Toreador dell'Ecuador, Conquistador.
Salvador di San più sopra,
Salvador di EL prima di Salvador prima.

portugese

Bangalore, Mangalore, Chandernagore, galore.
Sycamore, estudante de segundo ano de universidade do sagamore,
Mattamore.
Além disso, evermore, nevermore, diaspore do forevermore, zoospore, endospore.
Megaspore, microspore, tetraspore.
Aplanospore de Exospore.
Dinosaur de Chickasaw, elasmosaur de Megalosaur, Plesiosaur, Tyrannosaur. 
Titanosaur.
Humidor do d'Or de Louis.
Stevedore de Cuspidor. Lobsterthermidore.
Labrador matador, picador adore.
Toreador de Equador, Conquistador.
Salvador do San hereinbefore, salvador de EL antes do salvador afore.


sorry (in english)




FLUXLIST: like totally rhyming poem

2003-10-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AWEORORE 
Bangalore, Mangalore, Chandernagore, galore.Sycamore, sagamore sophomore,Mattamore.Furthermore, evermore, nevermore, forevermoreDiaspore, zoospore, endospore.Megaspore, microspore, tetraspore.Exospore aplanospore.
Chickasaw dinosaur,Megalosaur elasmosaur,Plesiosaur, Tyrannosaur.Titanosaur.
Louis d'Or humidor.Cuspidor stevedore.Lobsterthermidore.
Labrador matador, picador adore.Ecuador toreador,Conquistador.San Salvador hereinbefore,El Salvador beforeSalvador afore.
 
tee hee
 
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FLUXLIST: bertrand

2003-10-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dear bertrand,

congratulations!

verys bests

alan




FLUXLIST: brubaker's finest wearable gourds

2003-09-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gourd art?

i'm intrigued

off to apply a little of fluxus to my playtime coffee




Re: FLUXLIST: Alan Bowman mystery

2003-06-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6/2/03 2:30 PM, "alan bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
>> 
>>> everybody's got to live somewhere!
> with respect to Spike Milligan (RIP) I hope...
> 
> exactly! eccles in fact!
> 
> manchester, nope, bath nope!
> 

Is there a 'goon' or better still a a 'baboon' in the house?

All the best



Rick Griffith


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-  http://www.morematter.com  --




Re: FLUXLIST: Musica Coatta

2003-05-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5/29/03 4:54 AM, "Walter Cianciusi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Walter Cianciusi "MUSICA COATTA (Forced Music)"
> 
> Score, Edition of 10 Copies.
> 
> Send me your address if you want to get a free copy.

Thank you. How Generous.

Rick Griffith

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-  1614 15th Street, Fourth Floor, Denver, Colorado 80202  --

-  http://www.morematter.com  --





FLUXLIST: heeeeelllllpppp!!!!!

2003-02-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
agggh!

it's carnevale!

i'm in an international primary school covering for my girlfriend who is still laid up 
with a gammy leg

i have class 2 (2nd grade)

the class one teacher is ill so i have class 1 as well

all the kids are dressed in carnevale costume, high as kites and waiting to be taken 
out to the piazza and then on for a pizza.

insurance states that we need more than one teacher to go out

we can't go

we're in the library watching james and the giant peach

i haven't go the heart to tell them!

heeelpp!

how do get into these pickles!  i'm not even a school teacher!


Bo!  Aunt Sponge is hrrrible


ho hum

alan







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Re:FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V4 #28

2003-01-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
who is thank you?
what have they done?  why do you want them removed?  this could start a whole new 
dilemna.









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Re: FLUXLIST: baby octopi

2003-01-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We find baby octopi useful substitutes for rubber thimbles, when counting money, 
sorting through mounting bills and resignation letters.


Your
The Freeformfreakout Organisation Finance and Payroll Div



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FLUXLIST: white box

2003-01-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what about a plain white cardboard box with a small label

plain enough to look nice - if you didn't like it plain you could colour it in!

because this project will collect a lot of VERY different pieces from very different 
people with very different sensibilities, perhaps the container should just be that - 
a container -  something to keep the pieces in, an integral part of the whole, yet not 
a distraction or an additional piece.?

i think that no matter what we come up with there may be problems - it's a random 
project - so many different things will turn up that no one type of container may suit 
all

a lucky dip bag?  (groan!)
although if there were a couple of chupa chups and a bajooka joe in it i'd be happy to 
get one!

a




FLUXLIST: structured paint cans

2003-01-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE --(>maybe a little too structured for my taste...any thoughts?)


perhaps these could be component parts to be placed in a final container?
the only structure would be the 'theme' ie instruction, sound, etc - but it would be 
wide open to interpretation.  a sound pice does not have to be audio after all.







>i wonder if we could do a series of pieces over a period of time. 
>each edition of editions could contain pieces of a similar sort.
>
>for example - 
>edition1 - simple event texts
>edition2 - drawings
>edition3 - music based pieces (scores and / or recordings)
>etc
>





FLUXLIST: mundane paint cans

2003-01-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>If fuxxus is anything it is utterly obvious, mundane,
>common place and certainly 1 gal paint cans are the same.
>cecil


a 1 gal paint can that looks like a 1 gal paint can, because that's what it is, may be 
mundane - and there is beauty in that.

a 1 gal paint can that is obviously a container for something other than 1 gallon of 
paint is something else.

there is a danger of things becoming too contrived by the effort made to remane 
mundane and utterly obvious.

cor blimey, i'm on a roll today - can't remember the last time i posted so many times 
in one day

aaah it's friday  i can feel tomorrow's hangover already

alan






FLUXLIST: message in a tupperware box

2003-01-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cecil writ

>trendiness now has nothing to do with how the thing will look over time. We
>are putting 'art' in the paint can so I think you have to ignor the idea
>of trendiness - what's the message behind a cigar box after all? or a
>tupperware container? They are so obvious I need not mention them.
>cecil

my point wasn't necessarily the trendy side of it, but more how a paint can is loaded 
- it's a fairly obvious cliche'

when people ask me about my art, they invariably ask me what i paint - when i reply 
that i do not paint, i'm often faced with a blank stare - 'what? you make art but you 
don't paint!  what do you sculpt then?' !!!

cans have been used to package all sorts of novelty items - so i guess there's no 
difference in putting art in them.  but i still thing that a paint can is too specific 
- over time it still remains a paint can.  as far as the effect of accumulating finger 
prints etc - then that may make the can a piece in its own right - the contents are no 
longer that necessary, they are certainly not related to the process being undertaken 
by the ageing of the can.

what is the obvious message behind a box?  a cigar box even - i may or not contain 
cigars, i may have contained cigars - winston churchill smoked cigars, and he was a 
painter, as was his great enemy adolf hitler.  

see we're back to the painters again!

i just think that a paint can is too obvious, and a little twee - 

but, this after all, is only an opinion

cin cin

alan





FLUXLIST: paint cans

2003-01-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sol writ:

>I think I see what you mean...IKEA/Habitat syndrome ;)

>There are lots of other options we could explore I suppose but costs will
>start to rocket unless we stick with the tupperware/paint can/cigar box
>style of things.

>cheers,

>Sol. (not really adding to the discussion and yet not detracting from it
>either ;)

exactly the 2 names i was looking for!

for me the cigar box, or another simple box is the best solution - a cheap, neutral 
container.  but then again, we've done the box, which in itself leaned heavily on the 
fluxboxes ..

i wonder if we could do a series of pieces over a period of time.  each edition of 
editions could contain pieces of a similar sort.

for example - 
edition1 - simple event texts
edition2 - drawings
edition3 - music based pieces (scores and / or recordings)
etc

there could be a general theme for each, which should be open to personal 
interpretation (obviously), and each participant should be encouraged to attempt 
something outside of their usual discipline.  in this way everyone interested could 
participate in trying to produce pieces in a range of disciplines/styles etc, 
text/drwaing/painting/sound etc etc - and could interpret each in the way they wished. 
 e.g. a painters 'painting' may be iol on canvas, yet a poet's painting may be 
something completely different yet qualifying as a painting by its given definition.  
(are you with me ?  no? oh well!)

with a series of collective 'semi-themed' (i.e all texts, all images etc) the 
containers could be more specific and for want of a better word 'obvious'.

instructions on the classic index cards, drawings in a book, electronic media could 
still be incorporated through cds, website links also.

just a thought

cheers

alan











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FLUXLIST: paint cans

2003-01-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i'm going go out on a limb herebut

i'm not sure about the paint can.

i'm worried that it may become, for want of a better term, too 'arty'.  a paint can is 
much more of an 'object' in it's own right, there is a very obvious reference to 
painting (ok, so more so housepainting - but painting the same) and stick a label on 
it suggesting that it's an artistic project then it gets even more obvious.
as an image/object, i think that a paint can is pretty heavily loaded.  it may also 
say a pretty basic 'hey look i'm a groovy little art thing, arent i cute/cool'

it may also end up looking like something from a trendy home store - you know 
cushion/puzzle/game/sheep/inflatable chair/farting jelly in a can..

for me a box is much more 'anonymous' - boxes are used to hold multitudes of different 
things paint cans tend to hold, well erm paint...

anyway i'm surrounded by kids here at the moment, not exactly conducive to this sort 
of mailing

so anyway

that's my opinion anyway...

ho hum

alan






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FLUXLIST: pc hair?

2002-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> in re;to make no sense division
>  I was referring to the fact that people were wondering whether la
tino 
> plastic dolls were pc- 

i think someone got their threads crossed - or are we doing one of 
those nonsense subject lines again?











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FLUXLIST: hair confusion

2002-07-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


> 
> And Mr. Bowman, for those of us who are somewhat electronically challe
nged 
> (no scanner), may we send a Blue-Haired You portrait via the time-
honored 
> tradition of snail (or air) mail?

Dearest Bellisima Melissima and Fluxlisters in general

I was hoping for some sort of kompewta generated stuff, but seein as 
its yoohoo i shall extend the spec to mailed stuff as well.

Bearing in mind that my scanner is knackered, keep it small (ish)

Oh, and another thing, there was a distinctly purply tinge this morning!
Now THAT I really don't understand!!!

(What do they mean a makes no sense division?!?!?  should I be 
insulted? (cue Bukoff!))

x
alan











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FLUXLIST: FFFO makes noe sense div.

2002-07-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> how bout: makes-no-sense-division?

Dear Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms nAnts

Who do you think sanctions the FFFO correspondence?

Yours

L. Mow-Banana
Asst. Director Freeformfreakout Organisation Miffed at being by-passed 
in the Promotion Stakes Div.








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FLUXLIST: Beethoven s t r e t c h e d

2002-07-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

reminds me of another unfinished project from the fffo

the soundtrack to douglas gordon's 24 hour psycho

i actually got someone interested enough to join in, but like most 
of my stuff it fizzled away to nowt

(fizzled may be too strong a term..)

alan

broken down on the information superhighway



Re: FLUXLIST: inspiration

2002-07-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> I remember liking a version of "heroes" sung by bowie in german,
> "helden"--it was so . . . blonde, you know.

uh hu!
and i'm like urr, blond, um you know... cool! uh hu uh hu
hee hee hee !!! ;-)

erm, did i get that ?

yours uncertainly
al
but like i reckon getting a response istotally like , uhm cool..
hee hee

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Re: FLUXLIST: inspiration

2002-07-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

re:
> 
> NP: 'heroes', david bowie

nice one carol!

for inspiration - try listening to bowman's acoustic version of 
heroes - a duet with diego barovier - 

you will be inspired to do almost anything - just to get out of the 
room!

cheers
al

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Re: Re: FLUXLIST: France

2002-05-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

yes



> H,
> 
> Should I try to send Subject: [Fwd: France] (fwd) again?
> 
> Let's vote!:
> 
> 
> YES   NO
> 
> 
> IPUT votes: YES
> 
> Thanx.
> 
> H,
> a
> 
> -------
> 
> On Mon, 27 May 2002, [iso-8859-1] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > but does anyone know why it didn't get through in the first place
?
> >
> > al
> >
> >
> >
> > broken down on the information superhighway
> >
> 
> 
> 

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Re: FLUXLIST: France

2002-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

but does anyone know why it didn't get through in the first place?

al



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FLUXLIST: gardening

2002-04-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

been a long time since i rock and rolled (da na, dana na na)
been a long time since i did the stroll  (da na, dana na na)

actually the stroll bit i just did yesterday.  walking in central park i 
spotted a small sign in a flower bed saying 

"please keep out, 
respect the wildlife.
Newly Planted"

On rounding the bend who should I see? Nonother than LEd Zep's 
very own Robert Plant!  True! Yeah!

I wonder why he's taken to municipal gardening.

Anyone else have a totally pointless "I saw a famous person in an 
almost, but not quite amusing situation"?

ahem!

a

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FLUXLIST: ovine kangaroo...

2002-04-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Meryl writes:
> 
> My mistake.  I was actually pooled over for knitting. 

did they shout "hey you! what you knitting?...Pullover!"?

meryl, i think i'm free on wednesday  - but the 'boss' isn't back yet 
so who knows

here's hoping

alan

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FLUXLIST: hamburglar and CHiPs

2002-04-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Meryl wrote:
> 
> >Pulled over for weaving.<
> 
> Sol wrote:
> 
> Guess the USA isn't so free as we're led to believe. In Britain we'r
e free
> to make any cloth we choose on the loom of our choice without p
olice
> interference.
> 
> I wrote:
> 
> That maybe so, Sol. But I was once cautioned for failing to stop a
t a badly embroidered accident

Ah! but Roger weren't you stitched up for that one?  those coppers 
can be real sew and sews


oh dear!  sorry! i think i shall go out to take some air
> 

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FLUXLIST: tarot ta tiddley oh!

2002-04-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Howza bout the Fluxus Tarot? 

waddabowt "the Fluxus Carrot" a story for kids and other young 
animals

fluxus tarot - like the fluxdeck only with a risk - if misused you could 
summon eric andersen!

(yes! yes! that's for baptising me in the name of the devil! you rotter!
;-)   )

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FLUXLIST: needle nardle noo

2002-04-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> How about a biography of the fifty most famous artists who shoul
d have been in Fluxus but didn't exist?

I think this could be difficult to do for those who aren't great writers 
- i think i would struggle.

BUT  i love the idea and i'd really like to give it a go.  could we draw 
pictures as well? eh? eh?

do we have to justify their fluxusness etc?  
actually that would be tricky as a fairly sophisticated 
knowledge/understanding of fluxus may be neede before we start 
spoofing it.
i wonder if we could, collectively, decide on a set of criteria that the 
characters have to meet.
e.g.  maciunas' 'fluxus art amusement' manifesto, or other well 
know and generally accepted ideas.  this may be limiting but may 
avoid problems arising with the 'what is fluxus?', "fluxus doesn't 
exist', 'fluxus is this!No it isn't it's THIS!' camps


OR 

slightly less contentious:
> How about a biography of the fifty most famous artists who shoul
d have been ON FLUXLIST but didn't exist?


one of my favourite milligan pomes

>From Sydney Zoo an alligator
Was put on board a flying freighter.
He ate the pilot
And the navigator.
And asked for more with mashed potater

alan

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FLUXLIST: Meryl! well grapple me grinchers!

2002-04-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

meryl!!

spike milligan!!

we HAVE to meet up

you now have no choice

i shall picket the flatiron building, dressed in cardboard trousers 
and a string fedora shouting "oooeeerrrgghgh!! Meryl! no more 
curried eggs for me!" interspersed with rousing renditions of "i'm 
walking backwards for christmas with a gas stove over my head" 
played on knee trumpet.

waiting for your reply

alan
the red fort 
537 broadway (between minnie bannister and puckoon
new york NY



Re: FLUXLIST: Book 1910 -1934

2002-04-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

perhaps we should only work on it between ten - past seven and 
twenty six minutes to eight in the evening?

a



FLUXLIST: Book 1910 -1934

2002-04-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

kathy writted
> 
> How about theme or story, then? A day in the life... My first compu
ter...
> Favorite socks... Biography of another fluxlist member... 



what about just Fluxlist, perhaps eric might contribute ;-)
seriously though, fluxlist seems to be different for each person i 
talk to about it.
i don't necessarily mean a straight "what is fluxlist to me sort of 
thing", we could include examples of things inspired by the list, the 
problems it's had, interpersonal relationships, kathy's 'bio' idea of 
another member (like robin crozier's "portrait of robin crozier". it 
could be factual or completely not!  if you know what i mean.  to the 
participants, the list plays some part in their life - to be on it, you 
have to interact with it in some way - even if it is just hitting the 
delete key.
well, it was just an idea.

i'd love to get involved in a book project again (after happy new 
ears - it was just a pleasuer to recieve it) with this we may have 
even more free reign
but i feel kathy's right - we need a "theme"

alalalalalalalalananananananan 



FLUXLIST: not Thursday Night Dinner

2002-04-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

meryl,

i,m here until the 23rd, we could meet up if you wish.  i,m off work 
sunday and monday -  you can gat me on the gallery no in the 
evenings - i plan to be out of here during the day.  so if you get this 
we could meet on monday or something?
let me know

pity i didn't think on, melissa's been here all the time - but she 
goes home tomorrow.

alan



FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST: The Russian Avant-Garde Book 1910 - 1934 :: MoMA

2002-04-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

kathy,

i'll be in!

i saw the show just the other day, great stuff.  i was so inspired 
that i came back and made five totally unrelated collages.

which was odd - or maybe not.

anyway i'd like to do some bookstuff.

we have to remember the diffrence in paper sizes (A4 & us letter)

(in italy i recieved a press pack to copy with text right to the edges 
of the us letter sized sheets - considering that A4 is a bit narrower - 
imagine the fun I had at the photocopier.)

alan


> http://www.moma.org/russian/
> 
> Could this be a possible next project?
> Either 50 books with 50 pages by 50 people, 1 books by 50 (or s
o) people or,
> ideally, 50 10-page books by 50 people. Like the 50 fluxbox multi
ples.
> 
> How would this cohere? Theme, story, size...
> 
> 



Re: FLUXLIST: Thursday Night Dinner - one view

2002-04-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

allen!

documentation!

my goodness!!

great stuff!

alan

ps  free foam freakout organisation?
that's just a li'l too close buddy..

i'm assuming it's deliberate and not just a typo



FLUXLIST: irrelevant subject headings

2002-04-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

i'm bored, stuck here in the gallery.

what can i do to liven up my day without messing up the gallery, 
appearing to unprofessional (a bit too late! was the cry), scaring 
anybody who may come in?

alan



FLUXLIST: scanning Henry Flynt

2002-04-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi, tartarugo

i'll pass on the review to henry, i'm sure he'll be interested to see it.

i just listened to the very same disc only yesterday and i like it too. i 
can also recommend "graduation and other new country and 
blues music" (www.ampersand.com) and there's another, the 
name of which has completely escaped me (oops)

however, i'm booked in to work with henry over the next couple of 
weeks, it may be nice to interview him about the music - if anyone 
would be interested in  knowing any more.
i don't know, what do you think peoples?

any questions?

i think i'd like to do it anyway, it'll give me a break from scanning 
photos anyway.

BTW carol, my scanner ground to a halt!  a real anti-climax, it just 
makes a horrible death-rattle noise, takes a half-hour to make a 
distorted pre-scan and then I give up'

a



FLUXLIST: fluxlist dinner/cup of tea

2002-04-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi

fluxlisters in the NY area are we still on for the 11th?

what shall we do?

eat, drink and be meryl?

lemmeno

alan



FLUXLIST: evento per capello venexian

2002-04-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hat shop between campo s. bartolemeo and bacaro jazz

negotiate in heavy venetian dialect with a lady who appears to be 
standing in a hole

be told you look like a polish boatman

buy the hat your girlfriend likes instead

alan



Re: FLUXLIST: IM going TO HARVARD

2002-04-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ive been on an ironing board

am i in?



FLUXLIST: thanks pedro!

2002-04-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and apologies to all for the rather spectacular oversight on my part

(re emmett williams show that is)

ahem

wlll, it just wouldn't be me if i got it 100% right, would it?

ala



FLUXLIST: II: Emmett Williams at Anthology Film Archives

2002-04-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Emily Harvey Gallery
537 Broadway at Spring
New York NY 10012
tel: 212 925 7651   fax:  212 966 0439

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Jonas Mekas & Emily Harvey Present:


Emmett Williams, Fluxus artist and poet, will give  a rare American 
performance of his “building poem”, ‘The Boy and the Bird’.

The piece consists of twenty-one nouns, nine candles, and ninety 
slides.  The text was written by the artist in 1969.  It takes 45 
minutes to perform.

As the piece expands with the gradual introduction of the nouns, 
the moving shadows cast by the  progressive lighting of the 
candles allow the listener to conjure their own personal imagery 
from the forms in the shadows surrounding the artist.  The fluid 
metamorphosis of words and shadows are accompanied by the 
ninety projected images.  These images “follow the structural 
development”, according to Williams, “but correspond only 
incidentally, or accidentally, to the text.”

As Emmett himself said of ‘The Boy and the Bird’ – “What I have in 
mind is an interpretative free-for-all on the part of the performer, 
utilizing all his vocal skills, including real laughter, and real tears.


Saturday April 6th, 2002 . 6pm

At Anthology Film Archives, NYC
32 Second Avenue (SE corner 2nd Street)
212 505 5181

For Information and reservations call Emily Harvey Gallery
212 925 7651



FLUXLIST: II NEW EMMETT WILLIAMS SHOW at EMILY HARVEY GALLERY

2002-04-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Emily Harvey Gallery
537 Broadway at Spring
New York NY 10012
tel: 212 925 7651   fax:  212 966 0439

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

EMMETT WILLIAMS – STORY LINES
April 10 - May 4, 2002
tuesday - saturday  11 - 6pm
opening reception: wednesday april 10 . 6 - 8pm

Emmett Williams returns to New York City and the Emily Harvey 
Gallery with Story Lines, an exhibition of recent verbal/visual 
collages that reflect a personal tradition which first took shape in 
the early 1960s with a group of ‘Hieroglyphics for Do –It-Yourself 
Translations’.

The artist and poet describes these pieces as finding their source 
in a vast collection of old fashioned decals – “transfer pictures 
depicting life and lore galore in France and her colonies, some of 
them dating back to the first world war and beyond” -  to which he 
offers new life and adventure as the cast of characters in a world of
 
cryptic narrative.  It’s also a world in which they make the 
acquaintance of the personal images of “little Fluxus people,” a 
constant hallmark of Emmett Williams’ work.  As always, these 
“little Fluxus people” are quite surprising, since they seem so very 
“low-brow” – so intimate – in a world of far more peregrine riddles, 
and of far more philosophical procedures.  Each of the collages is 
completed by a phrase that helps it make sense, while also 
making it clear that although meaning is something our minds 
require, actual experience may not supply it, and at times may 
even deride it.

Willaims was born in Greensboro, South Carolina, in 1925, and 
was one of the  original points of lights in the Fluxus constellation 
espied by George Maciunas in the early 1960s. He was a 
participant in 1962 at the first famous Fluxus Festival on New 
Music in Wiesbaden, Germany.

Before that time, however, he was already well know as a 
Concrete Poet.  If that mix seems odd, it’s odder still that Williams’ 
activities have always belied that touch of something doctrinaire 
which hovers in the air near these terms.  As a performer, he’s 
also known to reach astounding levels of lyricism,and a kind of 
erotic calm.

Williams has lived most of his life in Europe.  After his discharge 
from the Army in 1946, he worked his way to Poland and Greece 
on cattleboats.  Graduating from Kenyon College in 1949, he went 
to Paris, and remained in Europe for seventeen years.  His 
friendship and collaboration with Daniel Spoerri, Dieter Roth, 
Robert Filliou and other European artists began in the 1950s.

Williams returned to the United States as editor-in-chief of Dick 
Higgins’ Something Else Press in New York.  In 1976 he toured 
Japan with his friend and Fluxus colleague, Ay-O, and returned to 
Tokyo a decade later as a artist in residence at the Machida-shi 
Museum of Graphic Art, living at the Ryodenji Temple.  He was 
artist in residence and research fellow at the Carpenter Center for 
the Visual Arts at Harvard University from 1977 until his return to 
Europe in 1980.

Williams lives in Berlin, performs and exhibits widely throughout 
Europe, and is president of the international Artistss’ Museum in 
Lodz, Poland.  In 1997 the prestigious Brerlinische Galerie 
awarded him the first Hannah Hoch Prize for a “lifetime of 
achievement in the arts”.

His ‘Anthology of Concrete Poetry’ (1967) is considered one of the 
best guides to the innovations and experiments in visual and 
concrete poetry.  And John Updike wrote of the “pleasure and 
wonderment” that Williams’ ‘Selected Shorter Poems’ (1974) gave
 
him.  Williams’ autobiographical ‘My Life in Flux – And Vice Versa’ 
was published in 1992 by Thames & Hudson.  ‘Mr Fluxus’, a 
collective portrait of George Maciunas edited by Williams and his 
wife, the English artist Ann Noel, was published in 1997, also by 
Thames & Hudson



FLUXLIST: NEW EMMETT WILLIAMS SHOW at EMILY HARVEY GALLERY

2002-04-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Emily Harvey Gallery
537 Broadway at Spring
New York NY 10012
tel: 212 925 7651   fax:  212 966 0439

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

EMMETT WILLIAMS – STORY LINES


Emmett Williams returns to New York City and the Emily Harvey 
Gallery with Story Lines, an exhibition of recent verbal/visual 
collages that reflect a personal tradition which first took shape in 
the early 1960s with a group of ‘Hieroglyphics for Do –It-Yourself 
Translations’.

The artist and poet describes these pieces as finding their source 
in a vast collection of old fashioned decals – “transfer pictures 
depicting life and lore galore in France and her colonies, some of 
them dating back to the first world war and beyond” -  to which he 
offers new life and adventure as the cast of characters in a world of 
cryptic narrative.  It’s also a world in which they make the 
acquaintance of the personal images of “little Fluxus people,” a 
constant hallmark of Emmett Williams’ work.  As always, these 
“little Fluxus people” are quite surprising, since they seem so very 
“low-brow” – so intimate – in a world of far more peregrine riddles, 
and of far more philosophical procedures.  Each of the collages is 
completed by a phrase that helps it make sense, while also 
making it clear that although meaning is something our minds 
require, actual experience may not supply it, and at times may 
even deride it.

Willaims was born in Greensboro, South Carolina, in 1925, and 
was one of the  original points of lights in the Fluxus constellation 
espied by George Maciunas in the early 1960s. He was a 
participant in 1962 at the first famous Fluxus Festival on New 
Music in Wiesbaden, Germany.

Before that time, however, he was already well know as a 
Concrete Poet.  If that mix seems odd, it’s odder still that Williams’ 
activities have always belied that touch of something doctrinaire 
which hovers in the air near these terms.  As a performer, he’s 
also known to reach astounding levels of lyricism,and a kind of 
erotic calm.

Williams has lived most of his life in Europe.  After his discharge 
from the Army in 1946, he worked his way to Poland and Greece 
on cattleboats.  Graduating from Kenyon College in 1949, he went 
to Paris, and remained in Europe for seventeen years.  His 
friendship and collaboration with Daniel Spoerri, Dieter Roth, 
Robert Filliou and other European artists began in the 1950s.

Williams returned to the United States as editor-in-chief of Dick 
Higgins’ Something Else Press in New York.  In 1976 he toured 
Japan with his friend and Fluxus colleague, Ay-O, and returned to 
Tokyo a decade later as a artist in residence at the Machida-shi 
Museum of Graphic Art, living at the Ryodenji Temple.  He was 
artist in residence and research fellow at the Carpenter Center for 
the Visual Arts at Harvard University from 1977 until his return to 
Europe in 1980.

Williams lives in Berlin, performs and exhibits widely throughout 
Europe, and is president of the international Artistss’ Museum in 
Lodz, Poland.  In 1997 the prestigious Brerlinische Galerie 
awarded him the first Hannah Hoch Prize for a “lifetime of 
achievement in the arts”.

His ‘Anthology of Concrete Poetry’ (1967) is considered one of the 
best guides to the innovations and experiments in visual and 
concrete poetry.  And John Updike wrote of the “pleasure and 
wonderment” that Williams’ ‘Selected Shorter Poems’ (1974) gave 
him.  Williams’ autobiographical ‘My Life in Flux – And Vice Versa’ 
was published in 1992 by Thames & Hudson.  ‘Mr Fluxus’, a 
collective portrait of George Maciunas edited by Williams and his 
wife, the English artist Ann Noel, was published in 1997, also by 
Thames & Hudson



FLUXLIST: Emmett Williams at Anthology Film Archives

2002-04-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Emily Harvey Gallery
537 Broadway at Spring
New York NY 10012
tel: 212 925 7651   fax:  212 966 0439

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Jonas Mekas & Emily Harvey Present:


Emmett Williams, Fluxus artist and poet, will give  a rare American 
performance of his “building poem”, ‘The Boy and the Bird’.

The piece consists of twenty-one nouns, nine candles, and ninety 
slides.  The text was written by the artist in 1969.  It takes 45 
minutes to perform.

As the piece expands with the gradual introduction of the nouns, 
the moving shadows cast by the  progressive lighting of the 
candles allow the listener to conjure their own personal imagery 
from the forms in the shadows surrounding the artist.  The fluid 
metamorphosis of words and shadows are accompanied by the 
ninety projected images.  These images “follow the structural 
development”, according to Williams, “but correspond only 
incidentally, or accidentally, to the text.”

As Emmett himself said of ‘The Boy and the Bird’ – “What I have in 
mind is an interpretative free-for-all on the part of the performer, 
utilizing all his vocal skills, including real laughter, and real tears.




At Anthology Film Archives, NYC
32 Second Avenue (SE corner 2nd Street)
212 505 5181

For Information and reservations call Emily Harvey Gallery
212 925 7651



FLUXLIST: noo yoik

2002-04-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

dear dearies,

are we still on for a fluxlist evening/dinner/cup of tea and a cake in 
in the bee gapple?

allen, melissa, meryl, kathy?  anybody?

the more the merrier

alan



FLUXLIST: fffo nyc hee hee hee

2002-04-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

dear all

bowman is now on the loose in NYC

make sure you've had the suitable jabs before approaching

cordially yours

Freeformfreakout Organisation Unable to Think of a name for this 
Division Division



FLUXLIST: FLUXUS RARE EXHIBITION CAT

2002-03-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]



allen et al

the catalogue is NOT rare, it may not have been produced in massive 
quantities, but it was after all only published in Feb 2002
price 15 euro  (around 15 dollars more or less)

I have a mint condition copy, signed by by all present - opening bid???

for those who are interested

The Fluxus Constellation
ISBN:  88-87262-20-9

neos edizioni - genova
via casata centuriona, 3/2
genova

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Museo d,Arte Contemporanea di Villa Croce
via jacopo ruffini
Genova

i dont know the postal/zip codes

i reckon you'll get one from the museum (15 euro + postage)

if you're interested that it

ho hum

alan



FLUXLIST: strange link to the fffo found

2002-03-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

this has to be the wierdest link for the FFFO i,ve seen yet

http://Kylie.4t.com/

follow the link to the fffo page

turns out it,s my brother who's working at a nuclear power plant in 
NW england and spends a lot of time in his hotel room/bar

if anybody has a look, please take the time to email him - that,ll 
really confuse him as he thinks im the only one who knows about 
the pages

alan



FLUXLIST: help

2002-03-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi

does anyone have scott rigby's e-mail address?
i beenangonanlostit
ta!
alan 



FLUXLIST: an englishman in new york II

2002-03-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

on april 2, 2002, bowman will arrive once again in new york city.

share prices for bass ale and brooklyn lager are set to skyrocket

fanelli's, it has recently been noted, is tripling its supplies.

a motion to close down borders, airports and ports has been 
mooted in congress.

can't say we haven't warned you!

regards
Freeformfreakout Organisation We Must Get Bowman Out of Our 
Collective Hair At Any Cost Division



Re: FLUXLIST: where is my mail?

2002-03-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> 
> PlEASE SEND FLUXUS ARTIFACTS TO 
> 
> CRISPIN AND ANDY 


what?  "original fluxus", "post Fluxus", "neo Fluxus" "phoney 
fluxus"?




Re: FLUXLIST: erm....

2002-02-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

my god i'm getting worse

what i really meant to say was

 i think that what i was trying to say is that, for me:
> 
> why there is the argument

is more interesting

> 
> not what it is..
> 


perhaps i should just leave it, eh?

(sheepish grin)

alan



FLUXLIST: erm....

2002-02-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

i think that what i was trying to say is that, for me:

why there is the argument

not what it is..

is that any better?

nope, thought not.

but has anyone noticed?  there,s been a lot more posted these 
past couple of days!

a



Re: FLUXLIST: The real old thing

2002-02-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Again there seem to be some misunderstandings around. I have
 never told a person
> that he could not be an artist or fluxus of even a fluxus artist.
> Initially we never used that term. Now we use it on and off becau
se the world
> seems to insist.
> The interesting thing is not if you are an artist or fluxus, - but why 
you want
> to be so. What do you want to achieve from these conjurations. 
Why do you need
> to adhere to something? Why is identification with some kind of 
mythology so
> important to you?


I think this is an interesting question.  There is a great deal of 
mythology which has been built up around Fluxus - those of us 
who weren't there have to rely on the word of those who were.  This 
list consists of a great majority of people who weren't there, a few 
of whom are arguing the right to be associated (possibly only by 
name) to Fluxus If they so wish.  
I am neither for nor against this, but i am curious as to why.
If i call my work 'neo-dada', of 
'post-modernmidlifecrisiscomeearlyist' nobody will give a shit but if 
i claim it to be fluxus, all hell breaks loose (in this small arena 
anyway)
(NB i am not a fluxus artist and i do not produce fluxus/ist/ish work.  
I do admit that at once i thought i did. now i dont feel the need to 
label it - sometimes, actually, a lot of the time its probaly better if i 
kep it to myself)

anyway, where was I?  oh yes  
"Why is identification with some kind of mythology so
> important to you?"

perhaps this is a good point for discussion.

I have had the good fortune to meet many of the surviving 
"originals" and some "later arrivals" and heard their views first 
hand, reminiscences, memories etc.  At no point has anyone 
talked about this wonderful "Fluxustime".  Sure, things were new, 
fun, interesting,whatever, but perhaps history and writers have built 
a myth from a reletively mundane story.

I don't know.

alan



Re: FLUXLIST: The real old thing

2002-02-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

re the catalogue eric mentions  it,s pretty good - i recommend it 
(for what my recommendation is worth)
al



FLUXLIST: coordination (beta version)

2002-01-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi all

my first posting was
Fri, 5 Sep 1997 10:52:42 +0100 (BST) 
canny bit's gone on since then like!
yours 
alan

interesting stuff sol, i wonder if i can use it to resurrect my old 
co-ordination drawings proiject, h
wonders...
wanders off down the alley, realises it's the wrong alley
has to stop and ask directions..



Re: FLUXLIST: How to work scanner

2001-12-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

the power of the wind you know.

carol

my sympathies, i too sometimes suffer from wind...oh the OTHER wind, 
ahem, erm, yes I see.

here in venice we got about 2 inches (max) of snow.  ha! a piffling 
amount i hear you think (!)
well, just to let you know that 2 inches of snow is more than 
sufficient to paralyse the town, here on the mainland there are no 
buses and there is 2 inches of solid ice on the streets

pathetic - mestre is a salt free zone it would appear

there's no snow in the mountains though, i wonder if the buses are 
running

oh how i wish for a huge, huge snowfall, just to watch the panic and 
how the dramatic newsreaders will overact

yours
cold (our condominium haetings packed in)
tired (red wine is so cheap)
and with a sore leg

alan



Re: FLUXLIST: Peculiar Goings On

2001-12-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

it is the bad trans virus!

you can download a removal prog, but i don't have the url here sorry (i 
out of the office)

BUT this works for windows  (well it's what the prog did - if anyone 
knows better please let us know)

go to windows/system/kernel32.exe

bada boom

al

delete this file



FLUXLIST: fffo red krayola

2001-11-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

alex

thanks for the kind response.

you hit the head right on the nail!  Free Form Freakout(s) are the 
filler tracks on the Parable of Arable Land if i'm not mistaken.  i 
have it on tape somewhere, i'm still looking for the CD if anyone can 
help:-)

the fffo was in fact born of red wine
there are some films somewhere, possible back in england with freeform 
freakout as the backing track.  there is also one of 2 silver foil 
masks of my face in candle light with pink stainless tail as the 
soundtrack.

rubbish i'm sure, but they were fun to make

alan



FLUXLIST: fffo red krayola

2001-11-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

alex

thanks for the kind response.

you hit the head right on the nail!  Free Form Freakout(s) are the 
filler tracks on the Parable of Arable Land if i'm not mistaken.  i 
have it on tape somewhere, i'm still looking for the CD if anyone can 
help:-)

the fffo was in fact born of red wine
there are some films somewhere, possible back in england with freeform 
freakout as the backing track.  there is also one of 2 silver foil 
masks of my face in candle light with pink stainless tail as the 
soundtrack.

rubbish i'm sure, but they were fun to make

alan



FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST: URL for fffo new york red wine incident!!!!!!!!!

2001-11-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

eryk!

please do!

alan 

Can I post the "Take a Cat" piece to my haiku list?
> 
> -e.
> 
> alan bowman wrote:
> 



FLUXLIST: meeting melissa mccarthy

2001-10-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

meet melissa mccarthy in the port authority bus depot

make her walk against the flow, dragging a suitcase

find a bar

smoke at the wrong end

recieve a wonderful gift

have a good time

make her walk back against the flow

dragging a case



bowman


photo to follow, at some point...


melissa!  it was a real pleasure, pity time ran out (BTW absolutely 
nothing happened on the way back!)

very warmests

alan






Re: FLUXLIST: ONGOING PROJECTS

2001-10-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

roger! 
re:
> 
> THE HOUSE OF FLUX -
> simply post your reminiscences of the place.
> I'll be collecting them all up, probably in the New Year,
> and will hopefully turn them into a book or a website or something.
> (See early "Room Enquiries")
> 
> what was this, did i miss it, or is my memory really going.
probably yes, and errmm  waht was the second one?

at the moment i am staying in the last of george maciunas' fluxhouses
i wonder if this is relevant at all

bests

erm..

oh aye!

alan!
> 





FLUXLIST: wiseguys

2001-10-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

an event for all








meet allen bukoff















event ends







it is well worth it






ab





Re: FLUXLIST: bea(la)n

2001-06-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Can I call you Al?
> 

If i can call you Betty!




FLUXLIST: bea(la)n

2001-06-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


ahem
i just want to clear something up

i am alan

he is allen

and the bloke who's surname i forgot is alain

alan is not allen or alain

allen is not alan or alain

alain is not allen or alan

bests

al(le)(ai)an




FLUXLIST: brads beans

2001-06-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

brad,

if i send you peanuts

how many beans can i get?




FLUXLIST: Pariah ?

2001-06-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

i've not been following this thread at all but i saw the list of odd 
town names
what's it all about then?

near where i used to live there's a village called "noplace"

i lived near a place called "downhill" - the bus to go there just 
had "Downhill" written on the front - made me laugh anyway!

"tantobie" always confused me though

there's a lot of odd names in NE UK

as for here in italy..

sorry if this has got nowt to do wi' owt

alan








FLUXLIST: Fluxlist in Venice

2001-06-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

memo:


Bowman introduced Scott Rigby to grappa last week

He hope's he is forgiven;-)

he spent a very pleasant evening with scott and leigh who were here for 
the biennale - and is sorry he couldn't get them into the guggenheim do!

bowman was in london on fri, sat, sun but didn't meet anyone and didn't 
go to the tate (slacker!)

coming soon the bowman/ay-o/gigliotti loud shirt demonstration pics

i wish he booden't dictade bemos when he is foo ob code

yours

anna wombal
frustrated secretary
FFFO Name Dropping Div




Re: FLUXLIST: [Fwd: Speciale Biennale]

2001-05-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

haven't had time to digest the original mail as yet (what do i have to 
do?)

however I shall be there (or in a bar very nearby) 

could try and get emily harvey roped in

I think scott's going to be out here then too (scott?)

erm, 

bests

alan






FLUXLIST: query

2001-04-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi all!

just a quick query, if i wanted to do a sort of cv ov my 'art' (and i 
use the term very loosely) based stuff - 
what form should it take?

a list of performances and projects undertaken, installations etc - 
like the big stuff...

or  a list of everything ?

what do i leave in and leave out?

HELP!!(please)

Also did anyone bother with the 4am poetry page?
just that my italian friends have been asking - they were very chuffed 
with their "english" poetry - it was an interesting evening.  has 
anyone else seen the fridge poetry packs you can buy?
you can waste hours sitting in front of the fridge!

maybe i should just get out more eh?

bests
alan




Re: FLUXLIST: The Hunt

2001-04-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Josh
 am i first?

i would like to be a part of your scavenger hunt

alan bowman
via lorenzago 15/7
30174
mestre - venezia
italy


cheers

alan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --== Sent via Deja.com ==--
> http://www.deja.com/
> 
> 
> 




FLUXLIST: lutHER + 01.org

2001-03-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> http://www.0100101110101101.org

was at an interesting conference/show the other week

the kids from 01.org were in volved - when you access their site, you 
are actually accessing their server+workstations - you can read their 
mail and allsorts.

SOUNDPEOPLE!
talking of which
those of you interested in the internet sound aspect of the web, check 
out andi freeman's 'earshot' project

http://www.deepdisc.com/earshot/

for making sound from actuall websites

also

http://www.deepdisc.com/ns/

NOTSCAPE - a sort of anti-browser

look around - he's an interesting bloke andi, he gave one of the more 
interesting presentations


there was loads of stuff at this do - all related to  art/music and the 
web - technology based rather than artist led.  i'm at work and dont 
have the relevant URL for the show-site (+links)

if anyones interested mail me and i'll forward info, URLS for the 
speakers and hopefully their ideas on interpreting info on the web.

i was going to complain about the shambolic nature of this event - it 
was very italian - joe jackson was the guest speaker, and he had no 
idea why he was there, turns out he has absolutely no interest in the 
possibilities open to artists via computer tech + the internet!
so i was going to complain about disorganised things, then i re-read 
this mail

ahem!  hope someone gets something out of it..

alan

p.s.  first 5 recipients get a luther blisset sticker - if i've got 5 
left!  ;-))










FLUXLIST: FFFO Fridgepoetry Page

2001-01-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

new entries on the fridgepoetry pages


http://digilander.iol.it/freeformfreakoutorg/fridgepoetry3.html





Re: FLUXLIST: FFFO Proof of Existence Division

2001-01-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

We are not disputing your non/existence

fffopoed




http://members.tripod.com/~GeneaNel/dat64.htm#5

http://co.jefferson.tx.us/dclerk/criminal_index/1981.htm



http://www.acun.com/dentons/html/dat403.html

http://www.math.lsu.edu/grad/phdgrads.html  
Go to 1970s


http://www.2id.org/25-24-f.htm
FONTENOT ROBERT Rank=SGT Serial Number=RA18329293 Branch=Infantry
Military Occupation Specialty=02745 Year of Birth= Race=Negroid
State of Residence=TX County of Residence=Dallas
Unit=24th Inf Regt Division=25th Div Type of Unit=Inf Regt
Place of Casualty=North Korea Date of Casualty (yymmdd)=51 04 16
Type of Casualty=Returned to Duty
Detail of Casualty=SWA/Seriously wounded in action by missile
Group of Casualty=Returned to Duty (Far East Command)
Evacuation Disposition=


http://genforum.genealogy.com/fontenot/

etc.etc. etc








Re: FLUXLIST: Mafia Names

2000-12-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just call me "Disgruntled Johnny The Fish" from now on!

Funny, I was thinking, can you be "gruntled"?

alan




FLUXLIST: FAO Dave bap ch

2000-12-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

sorry to go thru the list but my pc's down at home.

Dave Bap Ch

did you get a parcel from me?
or is it lost d'y'think?

bests

alan

worst thing is, can't even remember what i sent!
oops




Re: FLUXLIST: radio project .step 2

2000-12-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> 
can we be in?

Freeformfreakout Organisation Aural Stimulation Div.
(We don't get much done but it's fun trying...)



 if i forgot anybody or want to take part, please send me a message. and
> within a few weeks i'll prepare the material and send it to the first 
person
> on the list, that is keri... is there anybody who wants to be the 
first
> sepecially?
> 
> with love,
> ceyda  
> 
> 




FLUXLIST: Customs raid Fluxbox

2000-06-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Just letting everyone know that I've received the Fluxlist-box (Am I the
last?)

I suspect the reason it took so long to get to me (apart from being on the
opposite side of the globe) was because Australian customs felt it
necessary to open it up and look for contraband and/or to charge me for
duty. I doubt that customs would have understood what was within. They
didn't even bother repacking everything back into the box. I suspect they
broke the cigarette candy thinking it was drugs. Apart from that everything
seems to be in order.

I thank all those who took part in the project, and especially those who
put it together, a sterling effort. I’m still to explore all of its content.

All the best,

Nick Potter