Re: FLUXLIST: small protest continues
Hi Sol My belated contribution...just received these links from a friend...it's also worth keeping an eye on the website of the Stop the War Coalition www.stopwar.or.uk to stay up to date with anti-war stuff in the UK. From: Dr David Turner To: Recipient list suppressed Subject: Information sources Date: 27 March 2003 01:48 The following sources of information on the war are highly recommended: The Memory Hole -- This is Gulf War 2 [Photographs of Iraqi casualties (civilian and military), including the Al Jazeera pictures; SOME ARE VERY DISTURBING] http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/gulfwar2/ Iraq Body Count Database [Constantly updated civilian casualty figures; this is a very high-quality site, with information carefully collated from a wide range of sources] http://www.iraqbodycount.net/bodycount.htm Global Policy Forum -- Iraq Crisis [Lots of background reading that sets the war in its proper context, historical and otherwise; a lot of the material here is very hard to come by in print form (you'd need to spend a day or two in the library of the School of Oriental and African Studies -- I know because I had to, when I was looking for some of this stuff a while back)] http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/irqindx.htm IndyMedia UK [Samizdat reporting on the anti-war movement; lots of stuff that never gets into the mainstream media (for instance, very detailed eye-witness reports of the outrageous police operation to stop people demonstrating at RAF Fairford last Saturday)] http://uk.indymedia.org/ - Original Message - From: Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:36 AM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: small protest continues Hi all, Thanks for responses and comments regarding media coverage in the US. It's always interesting to find out what's happening elsewhere at a time like this, especially since the mainstream media just keep trotting out the same distorted version of the truth as they see it. Thanks especially for the links. Have checked out all of them and together with a number of others have uploaded them to my war pages for easy reference. I've also uploaded an interesting article by George Monbiot which talks about US treatment of POWs as well as alleged war crimes in Afghanistan and a link to clips from Jamie Doran's film 'Afghan Massacre' which discusses that. On the lighter side Roger Stevens sent me some detourned movie posters which I uploaded late last night. Anyway, all new stuff at www.sol23.com I've also put a link to Chomsky's thoughts on the war. Thom, your description of the mood in SF was very interesting. BTW - I enjoy your work on moviepoopshoot.com originally I only discovered that site via seeing Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back..but I guess that was the point. cheers, Sol.
Re: FLUXLIST: recipes
How about: Boston baked beans Black Forest gateau Cassoulet de Toulouse Spaghetti Bolognese Chicken (or lamb, or whatever) Madras Provencal mixed salad Virgin Island spice Philip (spending a lot of time in the kitchen, myself, these days). - Original Message - From: alan bowman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:11 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: recipes dear all apart from 'baked alaska' does anyone know of any other recipes where the name involves a place and the method of cooking? drinks too (don't ask it'll only result in groaning) al
Re: FLUXLIST: London March
Maybe you could both post your website details so we can take a look at the pictures? Especially as I didn't get to take any - I was too busy stewarding! Hope all the fluxlist people who were on the demo had a good time. Philip - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:25 PM Subject: RE: FLUXLIST: London March Yeah I was there too ... got some digital shots and video, look forward to seeing your pictures, I'll try and do the same with mine. -- Original Message -- Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:29:39 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Blower [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: London March Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Still high on the exhilaration of being amongst a crowd of about 1.5 million! I shot off a couple of rolls of film which I'll post at my site in the next few days. John Blower Writer/Editor/Trainer 61 Broom Park Teddington TW11 9RR United Kingdom Tel: (44) (0)7986 401490Fax: (001) 707 220 7490 http://www.feniks.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 27/01/2003
Re: FLUXLIST: Baby Octopi
I'd teach the baby octopi to swear. Then maybe form them into a punk band. But I'd supportRoger's rebellion, too. "I am Octopus!" Philip - Original Message - From: Roger Stevens To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:19 AM Subject: FLUXLIST: Baby Octopi I would train the baby octopi in the art of propaganda I would explain how they have long been oppressed by other creatures in the sea particularly the squid and cuttlefish I would explain how the squid and cuttlefish are inferior because they are ugly especially the cuttlefish together we would recruit more octopi until we had a veritable army of octopi then we would raise funds, glittery shells, sparkling corals, and buy armaments from the big fish the ray, the bass, the shark and we would organise we would signal our intentions to the reef we would not be swayed we would march, aye, march across the seabeds of the ocean exterminating every cuttlefish and squid with their horrid inky squirtyness until the ocean was cleansed until the ocean belonged to us the octopus (well, I'm not actually an octopus of course but hopefully, having done all this work for the cause, they would make me an honory member)
Re: FLUXLIST: Against the War
Absolutely. I'm with Clemente on this. Are there any British fluxlisters planning to go on the anti-war demonstration in London, 15th February? Philip - Original Message - From: Roger Stevens To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: FLUXLIST: Against the War I would beg your indulgence (or not) to post this from mail artist and poet Clemente Padin XXX Roger No to the war against IraqFriends,The anguish and the impotence are seized upon me again. I can not leave the opportunity to express my deep worry concerning to the unfolding of men and armaments carried out in USA and Great Britain in order to attack Iraq. It also makes sad the loss of answer of the remainder of the other Western countries (although some of them timidly oppose to the possibility of war) by stopping this brutal aggression that has been preparing, day by day, like a great media show what will become worse, no doubt, the pain and the necessity of people from Iraq, who are already enough hit by the blockade and the use of atomic weapons in the previous conflict (uranium of low tenor in the missiles).I believe that it is absolutely unacceptable that in the new millennium the most civilized and richest countries of the world wanted to solve their differences against the poorest countries appealing to the violence and to the war, omitting the Foundation Letter of the United Nations and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.Besides, it is intolerable for any sensibility that the USA give to themselves the right of exercising "preventive attacks," against any country, when and where they thinks it is necessary. Better say, attacks against any countries, if not against those which cannot defend themselves.Since it results evident that the USA will never attack France or Japan based on so trivial arguments. The excuse of that Iraq possesses armament of massive destruction (that nobody could not have confirmed) is not signifcant, for there are other countries which possess it, no doubts, and they have not received any pression, as, for example, USA, Russia, North Korea, France, Great Britain, Pakistan or India. On the other hand, USA count on political and diplomatic mechanisms to solve the international problems without using any tank.I am conscious that great intellectual groups throughout the world must be mobilized and have to make the possible to stop this criminal madness. But, also, I am conscious of the lacking of answer of networking, of the mail - artists net, or our collective group of creators at distance (some individual intents confirm what I have said). Parodying Epicuro: what is mail art for, if not to the service of men?
Re: FLUXLIST: regarding flux-o-box-o cee dee
A garden gate. The ocean. - Original Message - From: Alice Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:42 AM Subject: FLUXLIST: regarding flux-o-box-o cee dee taking a cue from some others on the list. i was wondering if some of you would be willing to contribute to my audio piece in this way: i was hoping that 25 of you (maybe) could do the following 1. pick an object 2. pick a location and e-mail them to me offlist (or on list, if you insist) gracias! alskt, m thfft bleh
