RE: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that
Cecil, How can you suppose to know what "something worth hanging up on a wall" is? Who put you (or anybody - not just you, but me, or Alan, or any of us) in charge of making the decision about what is "worth looking at"? Nothing looks pretty good on many walls. I like the things on my walls. In all honesty I would feel honoured to have the things that you make on my walls too. But that's not the point. I think it is much more challenging to think about nothing. The world has enough stuff to go around. Why should I add more? Allan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cecil Touchon Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:36 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that I say, dear Alan, I haven't the foggiest notion as to what your talking about. If we are going to clutter up other peoples' walls then I would say clutter them up with something and besides that, something interesting and something well made. Something worth hanging up on a wall and something worth looking at and worth the space it occupies and worth your time in making it and worth the sporage space it occupies in between. Cecil, new collages on view at http://cecil.touchon.com alan bowman wrote: > Have we not had nothing crop up on fluxlist before? > Perhaps we are all jus good for nothings > > but... > > does the act of posting an email entitled 'nothing', even if the body > of the > mail is empty, not constitute as something? > > i propose that we that we all make a concerted effort to forget nothing. > only when it is truly forgotten by all of us will it be 'nothing'. > > > > > >
Re: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that
Allan, I know and you know and everybody knows what is worth hanging on a wall - there is no supposing to it. On some walls I am sure nothing whatsoever is the very best solution. On many walls millions of things are worth hanging on them. On a museum wall some things, on a bathroom wall other things or perhaps nothing. On an exterior wall shadows are always a good choice. There is no challenge for an artist to merely withdraw and put forward nothing as the solution for being the most worth it thing and defer to the architect. Why should more be added you ask? becuase many of the unworth it things hanging on walls everywhere should be removed making space for more of the right things. If there is too much that is not worthless enough to through away, then it is time for storage closets so that works can be rotated. Anything that stays in storage too long or never comes back out may not be worth hanging on a wall, at least not for you but who are you to say it isn't worth it for somebody else? If you are so luck to have a wall then you and no one else has the privilage to be in control of what to hang on it. None of us are in control of what you hang on your wall. That's up to you my friend. If you are afraid of making the wrong choice then you can submit proposals to the Department of Approval of the international post dogmatist group and they well give you approval for a small fee. cecil http://postdogmatist.com Allan Revich wrote: Cecil, How can you suppose to know what "something worth hanging up on a wall" is? Who put you (or anybody - not just you, but me, or Alan, or any of us) in charge of making the decision about what is "worth looking at"? Nothing looks pretty good on many walls. I like the things on my walls. In all honesty I would feel honoured to have the things that you make on my walls too. But that's not the point. I think it is much more challenging to think about nothing. The world has enough stuff to go around. Why should I add more? Allan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cecil Touchon Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:36 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that I say, dear Alan, I haven't the foggiest notion as to what your talking about. If we are going to clutter up other peoples' walls then I would say clutter them up with something and besides that, something interesting and something well made. Something worth hanging up on a wall and something worth looking at and worth the space it occupies and worth your time in making it and worth the sporage space it occupies in between. Cecil, new collages on view at http://cecil.touchon.com alan bowman wrote: Have we not had nothing crop up on fluxlist before? Perhaps we are all jus good for nothings but... does the act of posting an email entitled 'nothing', even if the body of the mail is empty, not constitute as something? i propose that we that we all make a concerted effort to forget nothing. only when it is truly forgotten by all of us will it be 'nothing'.
RE: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that
beat a cardboard-box into submissionthe direction of ones perceptive experience doesnt mean the same once space/matter changes. i like sun rai like the album, nothing isfood and shelter is goodwalls with presentation of aesthetic windows is the filler btwngetting food?getting shelter?getting love?i think when you delve into the concept of nothing you begin to open up questions relating to space/time/ behavior/the value sytem of things after nothingwhat is anything more true then nothing?pre-natal big bang?the birthplace of the womb of existence?zygoteno, meta-nothingveilAllan Revich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cecil,How can you suppose to know what "something worth hanging up on a wall" is?Who put you (or anybody - not just you, but me, or Alan, or any of us) incharge of making the decision about what is "worth looking at"? Nothinglooks pretty good on many walls.I like the things on my walls. In all honesty I would feel honoured to havethe things that you make on my walls too. But that's not the point. I thinkit is much more challenging to think about nothing. The world has enoughstuff to go around. Why should I add more?Allan-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OnBehalf Of Cecil TouchonSent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:36 PMTo: FLUXLIST@scribble.comSubject: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at thatI say, dear Alan, I haven't the foggiest notion as to what your talking about.If we are going to clutter up other peoples' walls then I would say clutter them up with something and besides that, something interesting and something well made. Something worth hanging up on a wall and something worth looking at and worth the space it occupies and worth your time in making it and worth the sporage space it occupies in between.Cecil,new collages on view at http://cecil.touchon.com alan bowman wrote:> Have we not had nothing crop up on fluxlist before?> Perhaps we are all jus good for nothings>> but...>> does the act of posting an email entitled 'nothing', even if the body > of the> mail is empty, not constitute as something?>> i propose that we that we all make a concerted effort to forget nothing.> only when it is truly forgotten by all of us will it be 'nothing'.>> Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
RE: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that
Cecil, Well at least you are half-right! Allan From: owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com [mailto:owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com] On Behalf Of Cecil Touchon Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:59 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that Allan, I know and you know and everybody knows what is worth hanging on a wall - there is no supposing to it. On some walls I am sure nothing whatsoever is the very best solution. On many walls millions of things are worth hanging on them. On a museum wall some things, on a bathroom wall other things or perhaps nothing. On an exterior wall shadows are always a good choice. There is no challenge for an artist to merely withdraw and put forward nothing as the solution for being the most worth it thing and defer to the architect. Why should more be added you ask? becuase many of the unworth it things hanging on walls everywhere should be removed making space for more of the right things. If there is too much that is not worthless enough to through away, then it is time for storage closets so that works can be rotated. Anything that stays in storage too long or never comes back out may not be worth hanging on a wall, at least not for you but who are you to say it isn't worth it for somebody else? If you are so luck to have a wall then you and no one else has the privilage to be in control of what to hang on it. None of us are in control of what you hang on your wall. That's up to you my friend. If you are afraid of making the wrong choice then you can submit proposals to the Department of Approval of the international post dogmatist group and they well give you approval for a small fee. cecil http://postdogmatist.com Allan Revich wrote: Cecil, How can you suppose to know what "something worth hanging up on a wall" is?Who put you (or anybody - not just you, but me, or Alan, or any of us) incharge of making the decision about what is "worth looking at"? Nothinglooks pretty good on many walls. I like the things on my walls. In all honesty I would feel honoured to havethe things that you make on my walls too. But that's not the point. I thinkit is much more challenging to think about nothing. The world has enoughstuff to go around. Why should I add more? Allan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Cecil TouchonSent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:36 PMTo: FLUXLIST@scribble.comSubject: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that I say, dear Alan, I haven't the foggiest notion as to what your talking about. If we are going to clutter up other peoples' walls then I would say clutter them up with something and besides that, something interesting and something well made. Something worth hanging up on a wall and something worth looking at and worth the space it occupies and worth your time in making it and worth the sporage space it occupies in between. Cecil,new collages on view at http://cecil.touchon.com alan bowman wrote: Have we not had nothing crop up on fluxlist before?Perhaps we are all jus good for nothings but... does the act of posting an email entitled 'nothing', even if the body of themail is empty, not constitute as something? i propose that we that we all make a concerted effort to forget nothing.only when it is truly forgotten by all of us will it be 'nothing'.
Re: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that
Thanks! That's better than half-wrong I suppose. Although I am not sure which half your talking about. Cecil Allan Revich wrote: Cecil, Well at least you are half-right! Allan From: owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com [mailto:owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com] On Behalf Of Cecil Touchon Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:59 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that Allan, I know and you know and everybody knows what is worth hanging on a wall - there is no supposing to it. On some walls I am sure nothing whatsoever is the very best solution. On many walls millions of things are worth hanging on them. On a museum wall some things, on a bathroom wall other things or perhaps nothing. On an exterior wall shadows are always a good choice. There is no challenge for an artist to merely withdraw and put forward nothing as the solution for being the most worth it thing and defer to the architect. Why should more be added you ask? becuase many of the unworth it things hanging on walls everywhere should be removed making space for more of the right things. If there is too much that is not worthless enough to through away, then it is time for storage closets so that works can be rotated. Anything that stays in storage too long or never comes back out may not be worth hanging on a wall, at least not for you but who are you to say it isn't worth it for somebody else? If you are so luck to have a wall then you and no one else has the privilage to be in control of what to hang on it. None of us are in control of what you hang on your wall. That's up to you my friend. If you are afraid of making the wrong choice then you can submit proposals to the Department of Approval of the international post dogmatist group and they well give you approval for a small fee. cecil http://postdogmatist.com Allan Revich wrote: Cecil, How can you suppose to know what "something worth hanging up on a wall" is? Who put you (or anybody - not just you, but me, or Alan, or any of us) in charge of making the decision about what is "worth looking at"? Nothing looks pretty good on many walls. I like the things on my walls. In all honesty I would feel honoured to have the things that you make on my walls too. But that's not the point. I think it is much more challenging to think about nothing. The world has enough stuff to go around. Why should I add more? Allan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Cecil Touchon Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:36 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that I say, dear Alan, I haven't the foggiest notion as to what your talking about. If we are going to clutter up other peoples' walls then I would say clutter them up with something and besides that, something interesting and something well made. Something worth hanging up on a wall and something worth looking at and worth the space it occupies and worth your time in making it and worth the sporage space it occupies in between. Cecil, new collages on view at http://cecil.touchon.com alan bowman wrote: Have we not had nothing crop up on fluxlist before? Perhaps we are all jus good for nothings but... does the act of posting an email entitled 'nothing', even if the body of the mail is empty, not constitute as something? i propose that we that we all make a concerted effort to forget nothing. only when it is truly forgotten by all of us will it be 'nothing'.