RE: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that

2006-04-22 Thread Allan Revich
Cecil,

How can you suppose to know what "something worth hanging up on a wall" is?
Who put you (or anybody - not just you, but me, or Alan, or any of us) in
charge of making the decision about what is "worth looking at"? Nothing
looks pretty good on many walls.

I like the things on my walls. In all honesty I would feel honoured to have
the things that you make on my walls too. But that's not the point. I think
it is much more challenging to think about nothing. The world has enough
stuff to go around. Why should I add more?

Allan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cecil Touchon
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:36 PM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that

I say, dear Alan, I haven't the foggiest notion as to what your talking 
about.

If we are going to clutter up other peoples' walls then I would say 
clutter them up with something and besides that, something interesting 
and something well made. Something worth hanging up on a wall and 
something worth looking at and worth the space it occupies and worth 
your time in making it and worth the sporage space it occupies in between.

Cecil,
new collages on view at http://cecil.touchon.com

 alan bowman wrote:

> Have we not had nothing crop up on fluxlist before?
> Perhaps we are all jus good for nothings
>
> but...
>
> does the act of posting an email entitled 'nothing', even if the body 
> of the
> mail is empty, not constitute as something?
>
> i propose that we that we all make a concerted effort to forget nothing.
> only when it is truly forgotten by all of us will it be 'nothing'.
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that

2006-04-22 Thread Cecil Touchon




Allan,
I know and you know and everybody knows what is worth hanging on a wall
- there is no supposing to it. On some walls I am sure nothing
whatsoever is the very best solution. On many walls millions of things
are worth hanging on them. On a museum wall some things, on a bathroom
wall other things or perhaps nothing. On an exterior wall shadows are
always a good choice. There is no challenge for an artist to merely
withdraw and put forward nothing as the solution for being the most
worth it thing and defer to the architect. 

Why should more be added you ask? becuase many of the unworth it things
hanging on walls everywhere should be removed making space for more of
the right things. If there is too much that is not worthless enough to
through away, then it is time for storage closets so that works can be
rotated. Anything that stays in storage too long or never comes back
out may not be worth hanging on a wall, at least not for you but who
are you to say it isn't worth it for somebody else? If you are so luck
to have a wall then you and no one else has the privilage to be in
control of what to hang on it. None of us are in control of what you
hang on your wall. That's up to you my friend. If you are afraid of
making the wrong choice then you can submit proposals to the Department
of Approval of the international post dogmatist group and they well
give you approval for a small fee.
cecil
http://postdogmatist.com

Allan Revich wrote:

  Cecil,

How can you suppose to know what "something worth hanging up on a wall" is?
Who put you (or anybody - not just you, but me, or Alan, or any of us) in
charge of making the decision about what is "worth looking at"? Nothing
looks pretty good on many walls.

I like the things on my walls. In all honesty I would feel honoured to have
the things that you make on my walls too. But that's not the point. I think
it is much more challenging to think about nothing. The world has enough
stuff to go around. Why should I add more?

Allan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Cecil Touchon
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:36 PM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that

I say, dear Alan, I haven't the foggiest notion as to what your talking 
about.

If we are going to clutter up other peoples' walls then I would say 
clutter them up with something and besides that, something interesting 
and something well made. Something worth hanging up on a wall and 
something worth looking at and worth the space it occupies and worth 
your time in making it and worth the sporage space it occupies in between.

Cecil,
new collages on view at http://cecil.touchon.com

 alan bowman wrote:

  
  
Have we not had nothing crop up on fluxlist before?
Perhaps we are all jus good for nothings

but...

does the act of posting an email entitled 'nothing', even if the body 
of the
mail is empty, not constitute as something?

i propose that we that we all make a concerted effort to forget nothing.
only when it is truly forgotten by all of us will it be 'nothing'.







  
  



  






RE: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that

2006-04-22 Thread jimsters grailsters
beat a cardboard-box into submissionthe direction of ones perceptive experience doesnt mean the same once space/matter changes. i like sun rai like the album, nothing isfood and shelter is goodwalls with presentation of aesthetic windows is the filler btwngetting food?getting shelter?getting love?i think when you delve into the concept of nothing you begin to open up questions relating to space/time/ behavior/the value sytem of things after nothingwhat is anything more true then nothing?pre-natal big bang?the birthplace of the womb of existence?zygoteno, meta-nothingveilAllan Revich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Cecil,How can you suppose to know what "something worth hanging up on a wall" is?Who put you (or anybody - not just you, but me, or Alan, or any of us) incharge of making the decision about what is "worth looking at"? Nothinglooks pretty good on many walls.I like the things on my walls. In all honesty I would feel honoured to havethe things that you make on my walls too. But that's not the point. I thinkit is much more challenging to think about nothing. The world has enoughstuff to go around. Why should I add more?Allan-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OnBehalf Of Cecil TouchonSent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:36 PMTo: FLUXLIST@scribble.comSubject: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at thatI say, dear Alan, I haven't the foggiest
 notion as to what your talking about.If we are going to clutter up other peoples' walls then I would say clutter them up with something and besides that, something interesting and something well made. Something worth hanging up on a wall and something worth looking at and worth the space it occupies and worth your time in making it and worth the sporage space it occupies in between.Cecil,new collages on view at http://cecil.touchon.com alan bowman wrote:> Have we not had nothing crop up on fluxlist before?> Perhaps we are all jus good for nothings>> but...>> does the act of posting an email entitled 'nothing', even if the body > of the> mail is empty, not constitute as something?>> i propose that we that we all make a concerted effort to forget nothing.> only when it is truly forgotten by all of us will it be
 'nothing'.>>
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RE: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that

2006-04-23 Thread Allan Revich








Cecil,

 

Well at least you are half-right!

 

Allan

 









From: owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com
[mailto:owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com]
On Behalf Of Cecil Touchon
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006
3:59 PM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Something
and something well made at that



 

Allan,
I know and you know and everybody knows what is worth hanging on a wall - there
is no supposing to it. On some walls I am sure nothing whatsoever is the very
best solution. On many walls millions of things are worth hanging on them. On a
museum wall some things, on a bathroom wall other things or perhaps nothing. On
an exterior wall shadows are always a good choice. There is no challenge for an
artist to merely withdraw and put forward nothing as the solution for being the
most worth it thing and defer to the architect. 

Why should more be added you ask? becuase many of the unworth it things hanging
on walls everywhere should be removed making space for more of the right
things. If there is too much that is not worthless enough to through away, then
it is time for storage closets so that works can be rotated. Anything that
stays in storage too long or never comes back out may not be worth hanging on a
wall, at least not for you but who are you to say it isn't worth it for
somebody else? If you are so luck to have a wall then you and no one else has
the privilage to be in control of what to hang on it. None of us are in control
of what you hang on your wall. That's up to you my friend. If you are afraid of
making the wrong choice then you can submit proposals to the Department of
Approval of the international post dogmatist group and they well give you
approval for a small fee.
cecil
http://postdogmatist.com

Allan Revich wrote:



Cecil, How can you suppose to know what "something worth hanging up on a wall" is?Who put you (or anybody - not just you, but me, or Alan, or any of us) incharge of making the decision about what is "worth looking at"? Nothinglooks pretty good on many walls. I like the things on my walls. In all honesty I would feel honoured to havethe things that you make on my walls too. But that's not the point. I thinkit is much more challenging to think about nothing. The world has enoughstuff to go around. Why should I add more? Allan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Cecil TouchonSent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:36 PMTo: FLUXLIST@scribble.comSubject: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that I say, dear Alan, I haven't the foggiest notion as to what your talking about. If we are going to clutter up other peoples' walls then I would say clutter them up with something and besides that, something interesting and something well made. Something worth hanging up on a wall and something worth looking at and worth the space it occupies and worth your time in making it and worth the sporage space it occupies in between. Cecil,new collages on view at http://cecil.touchon.com  alan bowman wrote:   

Have we not had nothing crop up on fluxlist before?Perhaps we are all jus good for nothings but... does the act of posting an email entitled 'nothing', even if the body of themail is empty, not constitute as something? i propose that we that we all make a concerted effort to forget nothing.only when it is truly forgotten by all of us will it be 'nothing'.  

  

 








Re: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that

2006-04-23 Thread Cecil Touchon




Thanks! That's better than half-wrong I suppose. Although I am not sure
which half your talking about.
Cecil

Allan Revich wrote:

  
  


  
  
  
  Cecil,
   
  Well at least you are
half-right!
   
  Allan
   
  
  
  
  From:
owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com
[mailto:owner-FLUXLIST@scribble.com]
  On Behalf Of Cecil
Touchon
  Sent: Saturday, April
22, 2006
3:59 PM
  To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
  Subject: Re: FLUXLIST:
Something
and something well made at that
  
   
  Allan,
I know and you know and everybody knows what is worth hanging on a wall
- there
is no supposing to it. On some walls I am sure nothing whatsoever is
the very
best solution. On many walls millions of things are worth hanging on
them. On a
museum wall some things, on a bathroom wall other things or perhaps
nothing. On
an exterior wall shadows are always a good choice. There is no
challenge for an
artist to merely withdraw and put forward nothing as the solution for
being the
most worth it thing and defer to the architect. 
  
Why should more be added you ask? becuase many of the unworth it things
hanging
on walls everywhere should be removed making space for more of the
right
things. If there is too much that is not worthless enough to through
away, then
it is time for storage closets so that works can be rotated. Anything
that
stays in storage too long or never comes back out may not be worth
hanging on a
wall, at least not for you but who are you to say it isn't worth it for
somebody else? If you are so luck to have a wall then you and no one
else has
the privilage to be in control of what to hang on it. None of us are in
control
of what you hang on your wall. That's up to you my friend. If you are
afraid of
making the wrong choice then you can submit proposals to the Department
of
Approval of the international post dogmatist group and they well give
you
approval for a small fee.
cecil
  http://postdogmatist.com
  
Allan Revich wrote:
  
  
  Cecil,
   
  How can you suppose to know what "something worth hanging up on a wall" is?
  Who put you (or anybody - not just you, but me, or Alan, or any of us) in
  charge of making the decision about what is "worth looking at"? Nothing
  looks pretty good on many walls.
   
  I like the things on my walls. In all honesty I would feel honoured to have
  the things that you make on my walls too. But that's not the point. I think
  it is much more challenging to think about nothing. The world has enough
  stuff to go around. Why should I add more?
   
  Allan
   
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
  Behalf Of Cecil Touchon
  Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:36 PM
  To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
  Subject: FLUXLIST: Something and something well made at that
   
  I say, dear Alan, I haven't the foggiest notion as to what your talking 
  about.
   
  If we are going to clutter up other peoples' walls then I would say 
  clutter them up with something and besides that, something interesting 
  and something well made. Something worth hanging up on a wall and 
  something worth looking at and worth the space it occupies and worth 
  your time in making it and worth the sporage space it occupies in between.
   
  Cecil,
  new collages on view at http://cecil.touchon.com
   
   alan bowman wrote:
   
    
  
Have we not had nothing crop up on fluxlist before?
Perhaps we are all jus good for nothings
 
but...
 
does the act of posting an email entitled 'nothing', even if the body 
of the
mail is empty, not constitute as something?
 
i propose that we that we all make a concerted effort to forget nothing.
only when it is truly forgotten by all of us will it be 'nothing'.