Bitten again. :(
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jason Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Nov 25, 2007 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [fonc] goal clarifications (was: goals) To: Waldemar Kornewald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Nov 25, 2007 2:49 PM, Waldemar Kornewald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The way it's described you could interpret almost anything into it. > What is "self-supporting"? What is this "stuff" you can do and > interact with? What about the "practical" part? What use for the world > will the system have apart from being self-descriptive in 20K lines of > code (apart from being great in itself :)? Well the interaction doesn't have to be that hard. I don't know what the plans are, but unix already does something like this: you communicate to the system via system calls. If there were more system calls and perhaps new ones could dynamically appear perhaps that would fit the bill. > What exactly do you mean with "highly useful end-user system"? Who is > the end-user? Programmers, geeks/enthusiasts, businessmen, > children/schools (for teaching science), or maybe everyone? What can > we do with it? I would look at Alan Kay's talks about this. His oppinion seems to be that computers could be more useful but people who use them have not invested any time in learning them. So I would say this system is for Programmers, geeks/enthusiasts, businessmen children and schools but definitely not for everyone. I don't think the system is going to be for people who aren't interested in learning it. Or then again maybe those people are supported as well, they will just be reliant on people like us to make things for them to use. > Is this project purposely sending out no concrete message to us? If we > have no clue what it's about then our contributions won't always fit > your goals and you are less likely to get contributions because we > don't know what to expect from you. > > Is it possible for you all to define the goals in more concrete terms > similar to this *example* (I have to admit, it might be exaggerated > and biased by some of my personal goals ;): Well, one thing I think it isn't is a system that wants to appeal to the mainstream. I think the goal is to reinvent mainstream and try to do it right this time. _______________________________________________ fonc mailing list fonc@vpri.org http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/fonc