[Issue 54944] Provide way to mark forced font replacement

2010-04-28 Thread cloph
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User cloph changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

 IssuesThisDependsOn|54780 |

  Status|NEW   |RESOLVED

Keywords|  |oooqa

  Resolution|  |DUPLICATE





--- Additional comments from cl...@openoffice.org Wed Apr 28 10:30:53 + 
2010 ---
yes, it's a duplicate, doesn't make sense to have two issues open for the same 
thing.

While not productive to add the comment here, I cannot resist:

> - a warning (on opening a document) that substitution is taking place.

No, that will not get my support. The user usually doesn't care /that/ much to 
be annoyed with a dialog she has to click away. 

> - an option to turn off all substitution and live with black boxes or boxes 
with
the Unicode codepoint number in them. Make it an environment variable if that's
easier

That again is a very, very unlikely szenario for a user. I doubt anyone would 
like to have an unreadable document. This is the wrong cure to the real 
problem. 
You probably think of this as a way to spot the places where fallback did 
occur, 
but IMHO this is a very bad way to deal with it.

> - an indication in the font dropdown box that substitution is taking place (at
the cursor position / in the selection). A symbol, different color, anything.

The dropdown probably is the wrong place, as the user (when creating a 
document) 
will not see non-installed fonts there, so cannot chose a non-installed font 
other than by typing in the fonts name. In that case, the user already knows 
the 
font is not available, and is actually explicitly requesting fallback in that 
case.

> - a way to search for substituted glyphs / fonts

Yes, that's closed to a workable solution.

I'd think of a notification in the statusbar. "green" no substitution in place, 
"orange" glyph fallback, "red" font-fallback (just states, not real design 
proposal :-))
click on it and get a list similar to "Font  is replaced by font 
".
For the glyph fallback this is harder, as you cannot simply put the character 
in 
the UI, since very likely the ui font will not contain that symbol either, so 
either use unicode codepoints or a "highlight all font replacements" and 
"highlight all glyph fallbacks" function. IMHO the glyph fallback one is more 
important, as single alien characters within text stand out more, than whole 
paragraphs/document in the same (replacement) font.

Anyway, flagging as duplicate.

*** This issue has been marked as a duplicate of 45128 ***

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[Issue 54944] Provide way to mark forced font replacement

2010-04-28 Thread cloph
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--- Additional comments from cl...@openoffice.org Wed Apr 28 10:32:12 + 
2010 ---
closing duplicate.


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[Issue 54944] Provide way to mark forced font replacement

2010-04-27 Thread fallenguru
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--- Additional comments from falleng...@openoffice.org Tue Apr 27 17:16:52 
+ 2010 ---
First of all, this is really similar to issue 45128, maybe merge or mark as
duplicate?

In the long run full control over font / glyph fallback and substitution would
be desirable of course but as that's a big (UI) change maybe some of the
following could be implemented:
- a warning (on opening a document) that substitution is taking place.
- an option to turn off all substitution and live with black boxes or boxes with
the Unicode codepoint number in them. Make it an environment variable if that's
easier
- an indication in the font dropdown box that substitution is taking place (at
the cursor position / in the selection). A symbol, different color, anything.
- a way to search for substituted glyphs / fonts


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