Re: Java text geometry
Hi Simon! ExTeX, isn't that the name devised for NTS, but never used? Who are using that now? Is there development in that area? Yes, it is. I saw you wrote a note about it some years ago. You can find the project homepage under http://www.dante.de/projects/extex/. Although the website seems to be quiet a bit, they're currently putting their source code to a public CVS server. I think they started active development last year, but I'm not sure about that. Christian Z.
Re: Java text geometry
Christian, On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 07:58:41PM +, Christian Z. wrote: Hi Peter! else. So, just ask, if there are questions. Furthermore I'm currently talking to the ExTeX people. IMO ExTeX will be _very_ similar to FOP in the end effect, but currently has different priorities. And of course it will be based on TeX in some kind not XSL. Cause they want to eliminate TeX's drawbacks (including multilingual text) it perhaps makes sense to get in touch with them too. BTW: They would like to use the Batik code for reading TTF-files. I think there are Batik members here too? Perhaps one of you could drop them a line... ExTeX, isn't that the name devised for NTS, but never used? Who are using that now? Is there development in that area? Regards, Simon -- Simon Pepping home page: http://www.leverkruid.nl
Re: Java text geometry
Christian, Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you on this. What's UTA? Peter Christian Z. wrote: Hi Peter, I didn't have a look at your work yet. So perhaps there's no reason for me to speak up at all. I personally find the Java Text API hard to extend and not very modular. So here's my request. Could you please provide some kind of hook in form of an interface so that I can easily write a patch for UTA anytime? You'll also need some kind of attributed string like Java provides in its java.text package. Would be fine to have a place where I can grab the input in a well defined format and pass the result back to FOP. -- Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html
Re: Java text geometry
Hi Peter! Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you on this. What's UTA? UTA (Unified Typesetting API) is my attempt to provide an API for typesetting that can be used by all kinds of text processing applications. The primary goals are * the ability that support for new scripts can easily be added * support for low and high quality implementations of the API Currently UTA provides an API for line-breaking similar to TeX's mechanism (also TeX's behavior should be a special case of my model) which I think is quite stable and will change only little till the Milestone 1 release anytime around 9/1/2004. It also provides an implementation of the simple-fit line-breaking algorithm as proof of concept. There's also a helper package to allow global optimizing line-break algorithms using a BSD licensed graph theory package (only found a forrest report about an apache graph library without further information, Jeremias). This package may be irrelevant in future releases and is not needed to use the API. Furthermore there's the API of how I think multilingual text can be set. This is subject to change, I'll have to refactor/cleanup a bit and add some ideas. Note that the code currently reflects my knowledge and therefore is subject to change and perhaps will not fulfill all future requirements right now. Note also that my focus currently only lies on the task to define an API on how to typeset multilingual glyphs and how to break a paragraph into lines. I can't currently provide implementations for typesetting nor for advanced line-breaking algorithms. UTA addresses some of FOP's low priority tasks and I think the task you're currently working on. I had to take a look into the problems of multilingual typesetting, TeX, XSL, the Java API, Pango, ATSUI,... I do not claim to know everything about all of this technologies but I think I can be of use for you providing you with further reading or something else. So, just ask, if there are questions. Furthermore I'm currently talking to the ExTeX people. IMO ExTeX will be _very_ similar to FOP in the end effect, but currently has different priorities. And of course it will be based on TeX in some kind not XSL. Cause they want to eliminate TeX's drawbacks (including multilingual text) it perhaps makes sense to get in touch with them too. BTW: They would like to use the Batik code for reading TTF-files. I think there are Batik members here too? Perhaps one of you could drop them a line... Congratulations to your marriage from me too, Christian Z.
Re: Java text geometry
Hi Peter, I didn't have a look at your work yet. So perhaps there's no reason for me to speak up at all. I personally find the Java Text API hard to extend and not very modular. So here's my request. Could you please provide some kind of hook in form of an interface so that I can easily write a patch for UTA anytime? You'll also need some kind of attributed string like Java provides in its java.text package. Would be fine to have a place where I can grab the input in a well defined format and pass the result back to FOP. Thanks in advance, Christian Z.
