Re: Strange error with the first word in figure and table titles

[Matthias Reischenbacher]

Hi Bernhard,

you'll have to provide a XSL-FO fragment, so that we can help you.
Probably you'll see what the problem is, as soon as you examine it
yourself. Unfortunately I don't know, how the XSL-FO fragment can be
dumped with Oxygen before it is converted to PDF.

Best regards,

Matthias


On 21.11.2018 05:07, Bernhard Kleine wrote:
>
> Hi, (my first contribution)
>
> using docbook 5.1 with oxygen 20.1  for a book I happened to meet a
> strange error. The font for the entire work is Alagreya, however, the
> first word of figure and table captions are in Times Roman. As Bob
> Stayton confirmed, there is not any mentioning of Times Roman in the
> xml I wrote, nor in the customization I adapted. It is only this first
> word. Bob thinks this is an error with FOP. Where do I report such errors?
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Greetings from the Black Forest
>
> Bernhard
>
> -- 
> spitzhalde9
> D-79853 lenzkirch
> bernhard.kle...@gmx.net
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Re: Strange error with the first word in figure and table titles

[Bernhard Kleine]

any idea?

Am 21.11.2018 um 13:12 schrieb Bernhard Kleine:
>
> I hope this fragment shows enough. There seems to be no reason that
> "Tabelle Spanner im Visier des Fotografen" should not be in Alegreya,
> however as you see in the pdf "Spanner" is in Times Roman. If you need
> also the customization layer I could provide it.
>
> Bernhard
>
>  keep-together.within-column="always" margin-left="0pt"
> font-family="Alegreya, Tahoma, Batang,
> sans-serif,Symbol,ZapfDingbats"> keep-with-next.within-column="always"> keep-with-next.within-column="always" space-before.minimum="0.8em"
> space-before.optimum="1.0em" space-before.maximum="1.2em"
> text-align="start" start-indent="0pt"> marker-class-name="section.head.marker">Allgemeine Bemerkungen
> Allgemeine
> Bemerkungen
>  space-before.optimum="1em" space-before.minimum="0.8em"
> space-before.maximum="1.2em">Der deutsche Name dieser Falterfamilie
>      space-before.optimum="1em" space-before.maximum="2em"
> space-after.minimum="0.5em" space-after.optimum="1em"
> space-after.maximum="2em" keep-together.within-column="auto"
> id="d0e14"> space-before.minimum="0.8em" space-before.maximum="1.2em"
> font-weight="bold" font-size="15.6pt" hyphenate="false"
> space-after.minimum="0.4em" space-after.optimum="0.6em"
> space-after.maximum="0.8em"
> keep-with-next.within-column="always">Tabelle Spanner im Visier des
> Fotografen. border-before-width.conditionality="retain" border-collapse="collapse"
> border-start-style="none" border-end-style="none"
> border-top-style="none" border-bottom-style="none"
> table-layout="fixed" width="100%"> column-width="proportional-column-width(1.00)"/> column-number="2"
> column-width="proportional-column-width(1.00)"/> start-indent="0pt" end-indent="0pt"> keep-with-next.within-column="always"> padding-start="2pt" padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt"
> padding-bottom="2pt" text-align="center"> font-weight="bold">Unterfamilie padding-start="2pt" padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt"
> padding-bottom="2pt" text-align="center"> font-weight="bold">in Baden-Württemberg
>  start-indent="0pt" end-indent="0pt"> padding-start="2pt" padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt"
> padding-bottom="2pt"
> text-align="left">Archiearinae padding-start="2pt" padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt"
> padding-bottom="2pt"
> text-align="right">2
>
> Am 21.11.2018 um 12:23 schrieb Matthias Reischenbacher:
>>
>> Hi Bernhard,
>>
>> you'll have to provide a XSL-FO fragment, so that we can help you.
>> Probably you'll see what the problem is, as soon as you examine it
>> yourself. Unfortunately I don't know, how the XSL-FO fragment can be
>> dumped with Oxygen before it is converted to PDF.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>
>> On 21.11.2018 05:07, Bernhard Kleine wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, (my first contribution)
>>>
>>> using docbook 5.1 with oxygen 20.1  for a book I happened to meet a
>>> strange error. The font for the entire work is Alagreya, however,
>>> the first word of figure and table captions are in Times Roman. As
>>> Bob Stayton confirmed, there is not any mentioning of Times Roman in
>>> the xml I wrote, nor in the customization I adapted. It is only this
>>> first word. Bob thinks this is an error with FOP. Where do I report
>>> such errors?
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading.
>>>
>>> Greetings from the Black Forest
>>>
>>> Bernhard
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> spitzhalde9
>>> D-79853 lenzkirch
>>> bernhard.kle...@gmx.net
>>> www.b-kleine.com, www.urseetal.net
>>> -
>>> thunderbird mit enigmail
>>> GPG schlüssel: D5257409
>>> fingerprint:
>>> 08 B7 F8 70 22 7A FC C1 15 49 CA A6 C7 6F A0 2E D5 25 74 09
>>
> -- 
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Re: Strange error with the first word in figure and table titles

[Luca Bellonda]

Hello, between the words Tabelle and Spanner there is an unicode spacing
(see attached screenshot). I guess that FOP looks for a font that contains
the character, finding it in Times as second choice,
using it for the whole word; the next word returns to the default font.
If so, it is not a bug, but the expected behavior, I think.
Loot at https://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/2.0/fonts.html  -> Font
Selection Strategies

Try using a regular space or a non breaking space.

Best regards.

Il giorno mer 21 nov 2018 alle ore 15:33 Bernhard Kleine <
bernhard.kle...@gmx.net> ha scritto:

> any idea?
> Am 21.11.2018 um 13:12 schrieb Bernhard Kleine:
>
> I hope this fragment shows enough. There seems to be no reason that
> "Tabelle Spanner im Visier des Fotografen" should not be in Alegreya,
> however as you see in the pdf "Spanner" is in Times Roman. If you need also
> the customization layer I could provide it.
>
> Bernhard
>
>  keep-together.within-column="always" margin-left="0pt"
> font-family="Alegreya, Tahoma, Batang,
> sans-serif,Symbol,ZapfDingbats"> keep-with-next.within-column="always"> keep-with-next.within-column="always" space-before.minimum="0.8em"
> space-before.optimum="1.0em" space-before.maximum="1.2em"
> text-align="start" start-indent="0pt"> marker-class-name="section.head.marker">Allgemeine Bemerkungen
> Allgemeine
> Bemerkungen
>  space-before.optimum="1em" space-before.minimum="0.8em"
> space-before.maximum="1.2em">Der deutsche Name dieser Falterfamilie
>  space-before.optimum="1em" space-before.maximum="2em"
> space-after.minimum="0.5em" space-after.optimum="1em"
> space-after.maximum="2em" keep-together.within-column="auto"
> id="d0e14"> space-before.minimum="0.8em" space-before.maximum="1.2em"
> font-weight="bold" font-size="15.6pt" hyphenate="false"
> space-after.minimum="0.4em" space-after.optimum="0.6em"
> space-after.maximum="0.8em" keep-with-next.within-column="always">Tabelle 
> Spanner
> im Visier des Fotografen. border-before-width.conditionality="retain" border-collapse="collapse"
> border-start-style="none" border-end-style="none" border-top-style="none"
> border-bottom-style="none" table-layout="fixed"
> width="100%"> column-width="proportional-column-width(1.00)"/> column-number="2"
> column-width="proportional-column-width(1.00)"/> start-indent="0pt" end-indent="0pt"> keep-with-next.within-column="always"> padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt" padding-bottom="2pt"
> text-align="center"> font-weight="bold">Unterfamilie padding-start="2pt" padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt"
> padding-bottom="2pt" text-align="center">in
> Baden-Württemberg
>  start-indent="0pt" end-indent="0pt"> padding-start="2pt" padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt"
> padding-bottom="2pt"
> text-align="left">Archiearinae padding-start="2pt" padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt"
> padding-bottom="2pt"
> text-align="right">2
> Am 21.11.2018 um 12:23 schrieb Matthias Reischenbacher:
>
> Hi Bernhard,
>
> you'll have to provide a XSL-FO fragment, so that we can help you.
> Probably you'll see what the problem is, as soon as you examine it
> yourself. Unfortunately I don't know, how the XSL-FO fragment can be dumped
> with Oxygen before it is converted to PDF.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Matthias
>
> On 21.11.2018 05:07, Bernhard Kleine wrote:
>
> Hi, (my first contribution)
>
> using docbook 5.1 with oxygen 20.1  for a book I happened to meet a
> strange error. The font for the entire work is Alagreya, however, the first
> word of figure and table captions are in Times Roman. As Bob Stayton
> confirmed, there is not any mentioning of Times Roman in the xml I wrote,
> nor in the customization I adapted. It is only this first word. Bob thinks
> this is an error with FOP. Where do I report such errors?
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> Greetings from the Black Forest
>
> Bernhard
>
> --
> spitzhalde9
> D-79853 lenzkirchbernhard.kle...@gmx.netwww.b-kleine.com, www.urseetal.net
> -
> thunderbird mit enigmail
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> fingerprint:
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>
>
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>
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Re: Strange error with the first word in figure and table titles

[Bernhard Kleine]

Thanks Luca for the insight, changing the glyph in the customization
layer has done it.

Gratefully Bernhard

Am 21.11.2018 um 20:39 schrieb Luca Bellonda:
> Hello, between the words Tabelle and Spanner there is an unicode
> spacing (see attached screenshot). I guess that FOP looks for a font
> that contains the character, finding it in Times as second choice,
> using it for the whole word; the next word returns to the default font.
> If so, it is not a bug, but the expected behavior, I think.
> Loot at https://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/2.0/fonts.html  -> Font
> Selection Strategies
>
> Try using a regular space or a non breaking space.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Il giorno mer 21 nov 2018 alle ore 15:33 Bernhard Kleine
> mailto:bernhard.kle...@gmx.net>> ha scritto:
>
> any idea?
>
> Am 21.11.2018 um 13:12 schrieb Bernhard Kleine:
>>
>> I hope this fragment shows enough. There seems to be no reason
>> that "Tabelle Spanner im Visier des Fotografen" should not be in
>> Alegreya, however as you see in the pdf "Spanner" is in Times
>> Roman. If you need also the customization layer I could provide it.
>>
>> Bernhard
>>
>> > keep-together.within-column="always" margin-left="0pt"
>> font-family="Alegreya, Tahoma, Batang,
>> sans-serif,Symbol,ZapfDingbats">> keep-with-next.within-column="always">> font-family="Alegreya, Tahoma, Batang,
>> sans-serif,Symbol,ZapfDingbats" font-weight="bold"
>> keep-with-next.within-column="always"
>> space-before.minimum="0.8em" space-before.optimum="1.0em"
>> space-before.maximum="1.2em" text-align="start"
>> start-indent="0pt">> marker-class-name="section.head.marker">Allgemeine Bemerkungen
>> Allgemeine
>> Bemerkungen
>> 
>> > space-before.optimum="1em" space-before.minimum="0.8em"
>> space-before.maximum="1.2em">Der deutsche Name dieser Falterfamilie
>>     > space-before.optimum="1em" space-before.maximum="2em"
>> space-after.minimum="0.5em" space-after.optimum="1em"
>> space-after.maximum="2em" keep-together.within-column="auto"
>> id="d0e14">> space-before.minimum="0.8em" space-before.maximum="1.2em"
>> font-weight="bold" font-size="15.6pt" hyphenate="false"
>> space-after.minimum="0.4em" space-after.optimum="0.6em"
>> space-after.maximum="0.8em"
>> keep-with-next.within-column="always">Tabelle Spanner im Visier
>> des Fotografen.> border-before-width.conditionality="retain"
>> border-collapse="collapse" border-start-style="none"
>> border-end-style="none" border-top-style="none"
>> border-bottom-style="none" table-layout="fixed"
>> width="100%">> column-width="proportional-column-width(1.00)"/>> column-number="2"
>> column-width="proportional-column-width(1.00)"/>> start-indent="0pt" end-indent="0pt">> keep-with-next.within-column="always">> padding-start="2pt" padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt"
>> padding-bottom="2pt" text-align="center">> font-weight="bold">Unterfamilie> padding-start="2pt" padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt"
>> padding-bottom="2pt" text-align="center">> font-weight="bold">in Baden-Württemberg
>> 
>> > start-indent="0pt" end-indent="0pt">> padding-start="2pt" padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt"
>> padding-bottom="2pt"
>> 
>> text-align="left">Archiearinae> padding-start="2pt" padding-end="2pt" padding-top="2pt"
>> padding-bottom="2pt"
>> 
>> text-align="right">2
>>
>> Am 21.11.2018 um 12:23 schrieb Matthias Reischenbacher:
>>>
>>> Hi Bernhard,
>>>
>>> you'll have to provide a XSL-FO fragment, so that we can help
>>> you. Probably you'll see what the problem is, as soon as you
>>> examine it yourself. Unfortunately I don't know, how the XSL-FO
>>> fragment can be dumped with Oxygen before it is converted to PDF.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21.11.2018 05:07, Bernhard Kleine wrote:

 Hi, (my first contribution)

 using docbook 5.1 with oxygen 20.1  for a book I happened to
 meet a strange error. The font for the entire work is Alagreya,
 however, the first word of figure and table captions are in
 Times Roman. As Bob Stayton confirmed, there is not any
 mentioning of Times Roman in the xml I wrote, nor in the
 customization I adapted. It is only this first word. Bob thinks
 this is an error with FOP. Where do I report such errors?

 Thanks for reading.

 Greetings from the Black Forest

 Bernhard

 -- 
 spitzhalde9
 D-79853 lenzkirch
 bernhard.kle...@gmx.net 
 www.b-kleine.com , www.urseetal.net 
 
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 GPG schlüssel: D5257409
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