Re: [foreman-dev] Kanban tools and redmine

[Marek Hulan]

There's one tool for redmine and kanboard already [1], patches welcome :-)

[1] https://github.com/ares/kansync

--
Marek


On November 30, 2017 18:53:17 Walden Raines  wrote:


So for me, I'd prefer to keep using what I need, redmine and some board

and
not trying to combine both together.

I think that is a fair point.

It would be nice if we had a way to import redmine issues into a board and
have them move themselves to in progress, ready for review, done, etc. as
the state changed on redmine.  I woul djust like to find some way to
minimize manual tracking.  Perhaps we could write some integrations to
trello/kanboard to cut down on the bookkeeping.

Cheers,
Walden

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 4:27 AM, Marek Hulán  wrote:


Dne středa 29. listopadu 2017 9:05:28 CET, Lukas Zapletal napsal(a):
> Can you elaborate on why something does not make sense to track in
> RedMine? I am not following, RedMine is a generic ticketing system and
> you can create as many tickets as you want, e.g. Buy milk. It will
> work. This is a dogma I do not take as an argument. What's relevant is
> if you need to create private work items, but we do have a private
> feature in RedMine and we use it from time to time. And frankly, we
> don't need these very often (mostly security issues).

Sorry for answering someone else question, but from my experience, redmine
is
great for tracking dev stuff, including back traces, links to PR, BZ,
release
that includes the fix etc. Stuff like buy milk that does not hopefully
have a
backtrace is easier to track in some board as it's easier to manipulate.
More
realistically, things like "review PR $number" is easier to add and track
in
more lightweight system. I think these are simply two different use cases
and
I'm fine using two different tools for them.

So for me, I'd prefer to keep using what I need, redmine and some board and
not trying to combine both together.

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Marek

> If you look to the past, various scrum teams tried dozens off tools.
> But hey, you know what is still here? RedMine (and RHBZ of course :-)
> - those systems survived. My sole opinion is let's ditch RedMine and
> use RHBZ for everything, many open source projects do this. But I
> understand many people cannot live with Bugzilla, that's fine. OK!
> Let's just stick to RedMine then. If people want to try RedMine
> plugins, I totally do support that. What I really like is to have
> everything in one place - no copies.
>
> Historically, there have been problems with RedMine plugins for scrum,
> it was overloading the server when whole team was moving tickets. But
> we might upgraded to better hosting how, if infrateam approves I am
> all for trying anything that is a RedMine plugin and works with
> regular issues.
>
> This could be a chance to setup "staging" redmine, since we still have
> some knowledge from the migration. There we can test it on our current
> data and vote how we like it.
>
> LZ
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Ivan Necas  wrote:
> > My uderstanding of kanban is, that moving the cards manually on the
signal
> > board is actually part of the kanban way of doing things. Another
thing,
> > that is integrated part of the kanban process is
> > WIP limits, that I don't even see on the redmine plugin. Another reason
> > for
> > actually not using
> > redmine for this is the rasks, that don't make sense to actually track
in
> > redmine.
> >
> > I have a pr to nice Marek's tooling around automating some common
actions
> > around
> > Kanboard https://github.com/ares/kansync/pull/5 and so far, I'm happy
with
> > this.
> >
> > -- Ivan
> >
> > út 28. 11. 2017 v 22:37 odesílatel Andrew Kofink 
> >
> > napsal:
> >> I'm open to using other kanban style tools. To me it doesn't really
> >> matter
> >> that much how we plan - it's the same information just in a different
> >> format. So, if people have reasons, then I'm fine with switching.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Walden Raines 
wrote:
> >>> Hey,
> >>>
> >>> With several teams moving to kanban style tools for the
visualization of
> >>> tasks I'm wondering if anyone has tried redmine's PluginKanban [1].
> >>>
> >>> I really like the idea of a trello/kanboard like tool but I hate
having
> >>> to update tasks in multiple places.  Another idea I had was to switch
> >>> (back) to using GH issues and use GH projects [2] as well.
> >>>
> >>> Any other thoughts on how to make these kanban boards work better
with
> >>> redmine?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Walden
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/wiki/PluginKanban
> >>> [2] https://help.github.com/articles/about-project-boards/
> >>>
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Re: [foreman-dev] Kanban tools and redmine

[Ohad Levy]

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Greg Sutcliffe 
wrote:

> On 28/11/17 21:29, Walden Raines wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > With several teams moving to kanban style tools for the visualization of
> > tasks I'm wondering if anyone has tried redmine's PluginKanban [1].
>
> Haven't tried it, yet :). Performance would be good to find out about
> (Redmine Backlogs was *awful* for that), and also what versions of
> Redmine it supports (can't just see that info).
>
> I need to do an update for the list about the redmine status, so let me
> include this on that.
>

did you look into openproject [1] ? it seems like its based on redmine (so
data migration might just work) and has quite a few features around
planning?

Ohad

[1] https://www.openproject.org/

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