Re: [foreman-dev] Releases for EOL Fedora, why ?

2017-12-17 Thread Matt
Hi Ewoud,

I would love to help but I need to find out more about that when I have 
time for it. It's not something you want to figure out in a day.

In my case I was actually only talking about the proxy, but you are right 
there is more then the proxy only but the proxy itself is creating the gap 
here on Fedora.

For now I have created a CentOS "ProxyBox" that will be running a supported 
version of the proxy and FreeIPA where CentOS is still a little bit behind. 
At least my core machines are not affected when I have a problem with my 
proxy. 

I hope I'm able to help you out here or that the devs are able to focus for 
the proxy at least more on latest Fedora versions.





Op zondag 17 december 2017 13:52:51 UTC+1 schreef Ewoud Kohl van 
Wijngaarden:
>
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 02:11:25AM -0800, Matt wrote: 
> >Why are the latest Fedora versions so poorly supported and EOL ones are ? 
>
> Lack of time to properly package and test it. Is the primairy reason. 
> Another thing that was always difficult for the main foreman package was 
> keeping rails versions aligned. 
>
> Somewhere we decided to drop F24 but not add a newer Fedora release. Now 
> that core is upgrading to Rails 5.1 we could target F27 again. 
>
> >Because of this there is a very annoying gap for freeIPA releases as 
> CentOS 
> >is too far behind on FreeIPA and Foreman doesn't support the proxy on the 
> >latest supported Fedora version. 
>
> The proxy should be much easier to support since it has fewer 
> dependencies. The hardest part might be that our current testing is 
> based on booting a Foreman instance with a proxy and see if it 
> registers. If we boot a proxy but not a Foreman we'll need new tests so 
> it's sufficiently covered. 
>
> We do have pipelines in forklift[1] that deploy a separate proxy - that 
> could be modified to test the proxy on Fedora but deploy foreman on 
> CentOS. Biggest worry there is CI resources but we're working on that. 
>
> >Any idea how to fix this annoying gap all the time ? 
>
> Help us fix it in the foreman-packaging[2] repository. I'd be happy to 
> help you in getting things going. 
>
> [1]: https://github.com/theforeman/forklift 
> [2]: https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-packaging 
>

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2017-12-17 Thread Greg Sutcliffe
We're now 2 weeks away from migration date, so here's a quick update.

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So far all is looking pretty good. I'll update again in a week (yes, I
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Re: [foreman-dev] Releases for EOL Fedora, why ?

2017-12-17 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 02:11:25AM -0800, Matt wrote:

Why are the latest Fedora versions so poorly supported and EOL ones are ?


Lack of time to properly package and test it. Is the primairy reason. 
Another thing that was always difficult for the main foreman package was 
keeping rails versions aligned.


Somewhere we decided to drop F24 but not add a newer Fedora release. Now 
that core is upgrading to Rails 5.1 we could target F27 again.



Because of this there is a very annoying gap for freeIPA releases as CentOS
is too far behind on FreeIPA and Foreman doesn't support the proxy on the
latest supported Fedora version.


The proxy should be much easier to support since it has fewer 
dependencies. The hardest part might be that our current testing is 
based on booting a Foreman instance with a proxy and see if it 
registers. If we boot a proxy but not a Foreman we'll need new tests so 
it's sufficiently covered.


We do have pipelines in forklift[1] that deploy a separate proxy - that 
could be modified to test the proxy on Fedora but deploy foreman on 
CentOS. Biggest worry there is CI resources but we're working on that.



Any idea how to fix this annoying gap all the time ?


Help us fix it in the foreman-packaging[2] repository. I'd be happy to 
help you in getting things going.


[1]: https://github.com/theforeman/forklift
[2]: https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-packaging

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[foreman-dev] Releases for EOL Fedora, why ?

2017-12-17 Thread Matt
Hi,

Why are the latest Fedora versions so poorly supported and EOL ones are ?

Because of this there is a very annoying gap for freeIPA releases as CentOS 
is too far behind on FreeIPA and Foreman doesn't support the proxy on the 
latest supported Fedora version.

Any idea how to fix this annoying gap all the time ?

Thanks,

Matt

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