Re: [foreman-dev] Hosting katello repos on yum.theforeman.org

2017-03-09 Thread Timo Goebel

Am 09.03.17 um 17:54 schrieb Greg Sutcliffe:

I do think bandwidth/traffic may be an issue, as we already (I believe)
consume a large proportion of our Rackspace budget on the existing packages.


If that's the only reason we're not doing it, I'd consider using 
cloudflare.com as a (free-of-charge) CDN.


I personally are in favor of hosting Katello on yum.theforeman.org. I 
think, it's a (small) step in bringing Katello closer to being a proper 
plug-in. For users it'd be much easier to know which Katello version 
belongs to which Foreman version.
I believe that if we find a way to install Katello on top of an existing 
Foreman install, we can increase Katello's userbase and community 
support. By allowing users to install just a subset of Katello's plugins 
we can incease the chances even more. This still requires some effort, 
but let's do first things first.

Thanks for doing this.

- Timo

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Re: [foreman-dev] Hosting katello repos on yum.theforeman.org

2017-03-09 Thread Greg Sutcliffe
On Wednesday, 8 March 2017 20:15:10 GMT Justin Sherrill wrote:
> Within https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-packaging/pull/1541 it was
> expressed that yum.theforeman.org does not have enough resources to hold
> the katello repos as they are today (but that this PR was not the right
> place to discuss it).  This mailing list does seem like the current place.

Unsurprisingly, I'm in favour of this change, broadly speaking, since it 
benefits me on the metrics side. More generally though, I see no *logical* 
reason to keep one specific plugin separate to all the others, even if for now 
the repo structure still needs some careful handling.
 
> What are the resource limitations that prevent this from happening?  The
> details in the PR are quite limited.
> 
> For size, here are the last few releases, binary RPMS:
> 
> 52M3.3
> 106M3.2
> 105M3.1
> 
> Source RPMS:
> 
> 298M   3.1
> 142M  3.2
> 79M   3.3
> 
> Are there any other reasons to not host the repositories there?

Space shouldn't be too much of a concern, as far as I know. Web02 does run out 
of space from time to time, but it's invariably the Deb repos that cause it, 
and they can be cleaned up as required.

I do think bandwidth/traffic may be an issue, as we already (I believe) 
consume a large proportion of our Rackspace budget on the existing packages. 
Dominic, do I have that right, or is my info out of date?

Assuming bandwidth is a legitimate concern, I recently learned there's an 
initiative within Red Hat to provide public-IP boxes to upstream communities 
(properly isolated so that even non-RH staff can have shell access to do 
community work). My research so far shows that this is a case of bring-your-
own-hardware, but comes with free power, public IP and bandwidth. Thus, moving 
to this may be a way forward. I'm investigating further (e.g. is there a cap 
to the free bandwidth, etc) and will report back, if we think it would be 
useful.

That said, if the bandwidth is not an issue, then I know of no other blocker 
to merging this.

Greg

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Re: [foreman-dev] Hosting katello repos on yum.theforeman.org

2017-03-09 Thread Eric D Helms
Yes, it would since they would be hosted the same was core and plugins are.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Tom McKay  wrote:

> Would this allow katello download statistics to be tracked?
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Justin Sherrill 
> wrote:
>
>> Within https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-packaging/pull/1541 it was
>> expressed that yum.theforeman.org does not have enough resources to hold
>> the katello repos as they are today (but that this PR was not the right
>> place to discuss it).  This mailing list does seem like the current place.
>>
>> What are the resource limitations that prevent this from happening?  The
>> details in the PR are quite limited.
>>
>> For size, here are the last few releases, binary RPMS:
>>
>> 52M3.3
>> 106M3.2
>> 105M3.1
>>
>> Source RPMS:
>>
>> 298M   3.1
>> 142M  3.2
>> 79M   3.3
>>
>> Are there any other reasons to not host the repositories there?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Justin
>>
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Re: [foreman-dev] Hosting katello repos on yum.theforeman.org

2017-03-09 Thread Tom McKay
Would this allow katello download statistics to be tracked?

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Justin Sherrill  wrote:

> Within https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-packaging/pull/1541 it was
> expressed that yum.theforeman.org does not have enough resources to hold
> the katello repos as they are today (but that this PR was not the right
> place to discuss it).  This mailing list does seem like the current place.
>
> What are the resource limitations that prevent this from happening?  The
> details in the PR are quite limited.
>
> For size, here are the last few releases, binary RPMS:
>
> 52M3.3
> 106M3.2
> 105M3.1
>
> Source RPMS:
>
> 298M   3.1
> 142M  3.2
> 79M   3.3
>
> Are there any other reasons to not host the repositories there?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Justin
>
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[foreman-dev] Hosting katello repos on yum.theforeman.org

2017-03-08 Thread Justin Sherrill
Within https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-packaging/pull/1541 it was 
expressed that yum.theforeman.org does not have enough resources to hold 
the katello repos as they are today (but that this PR was not the right 
place to discuss it).  This mailing list does seem like the current place.


What are the resource limitations that prevent this from happening?  The 
details in the PR are quite limited.


For size, here are the last few releases, binary RPMS:

52M3.3
106M3.2
105M3.1

Source RPMS:

298M   3.1
142M  3.2
79M   3.3

Are there any other reasons to not host the repositories there?

Thanks,

-Justin

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