Re: [fossil-users] Basic FossilHub functionality works

2011-03-28 Thread Alaric Snell-Pym 
On 03/28/11 07:43, Bill Burdick wrote:

> In order to watch a repository, that repository has to a small (<1K) HTML
> asset which provides access to the timeline feed (using HTML5's
> window.postMessage) -- this can just be attached to a wiki page; it doesn't
> have to be in a project branch.  The main body of code, however, is in the
> "account" repository, in JavaScript and served up using a Fossil "doc" URL.
>  Again, this did not require any changes to the Fossil executable.

It's awesome that you can do this without modifying Fossil. I dunno if
the social networking stuff will take off or not... but the fact it can
be implemented like this is amazing! Well done to you and to Richard for
making Fossil flexible through simplicity ;-)

[What a geeky answer. "Dunno about the social stuff, what an awesome
gadget" ;-)]

>
> Bill
>

ABS

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[fossil-users] svn to fossil migration script

2011-03-28 Thread mightyhe 
I followed someone's advice to pipe svn-fe's output into fossil's git
importer, and the result is just awful.  I blame svn-fe for not handling
the "standard" svn repository layout properly.  What I have are svn dump
files, and lots of them.  The steps I've found that will import all
branches and tags properly require git-svn, and are as follows:

# If you have a dump file...
svnadmin create svn_myrepos
svnadmin load svn_myrepos < myrepos.dmp

# Now that you have a repository directory...
mkdir git_myrepos
cd git_myrepos
git svn init -s file:///home/myuser/svn_myrepos
git svn fetch

# at this point, it's the standard import
git fast-export --all | fossil import --git myrepos.fossil

I've attached a script to do this in batch, along with setting a standard
password on all of the imported repositories (I needed it).

mightyhe#!/usr/bin/python
import os
import re
import getpass

def main():
"""***Warning*** - This script works on Unix only
   ***Warning*** - This script requires git-svn to work, try "yum install svn-git"

   For those of us who read the subversion manual, and did a standard layout, we
   find that "svn-fe path_to_repository | fossil import --git repos.fossil" just
   isn't good enough, because svn-fe doesn't properly handle branches and tags.
   To handle things properly, we need to use "git-svn -s" somewhwere along the
   data transfer path.

   This script will take a directory of subversion dmp files with standard layout
   (trunk, root, tags) and turn them into fossil repositories if you don't have a
   dmp file, you can either "svnadmin dump /path_to_repos > repos.dmp or alter
   the script to use repository paths directly (jump to git svn init)"""

cwd = os.getcwd()
defuser = getpass.getuser()
defpasswd = getpass.getpass('Default Fossil Password: ')

for fname in os.listdir('.'):
mo = re.match(r'(.+)\.dmp', fname)
if not mo:
continue
print "processing "+os.path.join(cwd,fname)+"..."
base = mo.group(1)
dmpfile = os.path.join(cwd, fname)
svndir = os.path.join(cwd,'svn_'+base)
gitdir = os.path.join(cwd,'git_'+base)
fossilfile = os.path.join(cwd,base+'.fossil')
os.system('svnadmin create '+svndir)
os.system('svnadmin load '+svndir+' < '+dmpfile)
os.mkdir(gitdir)
os.chdir(gitdir)
os.system('git svn init -s file://'+svndir)
os.system('git svn fetch')
os.system('git fast-export --all | fossil import --git '+fossilfile)
os.chdir(cwd)
os.system('rm -Rf '+gitdir)
os.system('rm -Rf '+svndir)
os.system('fossil user --repository '+fossilfile+' password '+defuser+' '+defpasswd)

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[fossil-users] Generated wiki links and name parameter?

2011-03-28 Thread Nolan Darilek 
Why do Fossil-generated links to wiki pages include the ?name=pagename 
parameter when /wiki/pagename seems to work as well as /wiki?name=pagename?

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Re: [fossil-users] Basic FossilHub functionality works

2011-03-28 Thread Bill Burdick 
Thanks!  I have several GitHub repositories (https://github.com/zot) and I
use the social networking support to keep track of what's happening in other
repositories and communicate with other developers.  I hope some other
people will see the usefulness of this and pitch in :).  I'd like to move
them all of my Git repos to Fossil and still have that same connectivity --
for starters, I'm moving a multiuser 3D platform I'm working on, built on
top of Second Life, from Git to Fossil, so that's 4 repositories (so far).


Bill


On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Alaric Snell-Pym
wrote:

> On 03/28/11 07:43, Bill Burdick wrote:
>
> > In order to watch a repository, that repository has to a small (<1K) HTML
> > asset which provides access to the timeline feed (using HTML5's
> > window.postMessage) -- this can just be attached to a wiki page; it
> doesn't
> > have to be in a project branch.  The main body of code, however, is in
> the
> > "account" repository, in JavaScript and served up using a Fossil "doc"
> URL.
> >  Again, this did not require any changes to the Fossil executable.
>
> It's awesome that you can do this without modifying Fossil. I dunno if
> the social networking stuff will take off or not... but the fact it can
> be implemented like this is amazing! Well done to you and to Richard for
> making Fossil flexible through simplicity ;-)
>
> [What a geeky answer. "Dunno about the social stuff, what an awesome
> gadget" ;-)]
>
> >
> > Bill
> >
>
> ABS
>
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Re: [fossil-users] Basic FossilHub functionality works

2011-03-28 Thread Stephan Beal 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Bill Burdick wrote:

> This allows you to make a Fossil repository that functions as your
> "account" and register repositories with it that you are watching (I don't
> have a GUI yet to register repositories -- the data is in a JSON wiki page
> attachment).  The "followed" page shows aggregated
>

Great stuff! Regarding the JSON bits... i recently added some basic JSON
support to my copy of fossil, but haven't done anything interesting with it.
The current code can output the timeline in JSON, but currently no other
areas use JSON (for lack of energy and real use cases, not the difficulty of
solving the problem). If you have concrete ideas about how having JSON
output come directly from Fossil might help you to implement your hub, i'd
be interested in discussing that with you and potentially adding the JSON
output support.

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Re: [fossil-users] Basic FossilHub functionality works

2011-03-28 Thread Bill Burdick 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Stephan Beal wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Bill Burdick wrote:
>
>> This allows you to make a Fossil repository that functions as your
>> "account" and register repositories with it that you are watching (I don't
>> have a GUI yet to register repositories -- the data is in a JSON wiki page
>> attachment).  The "followed" page shows aggregated
>>
>
> Great stuff! Regarding the JSON bits... i recently added some basic JSON
> support to my copy of fossil, but haven't done anything interesting with it.
> The current code can output the timeline in JSON, but currently no other
> areas use JSON (for lack of energy and real use cases, not the difficulty of
> solving the problem). If you have concrete ideas about how having JSON
> output come directly from Fossil might help you to implement your hub, i'd
> be interested in discussing that with you and potentially adding the JSON
> output support.
>

Well, I'm parsing the XML timeline RSS feed in JavaScript, right now, but
JSON would certainly be more convenient :).


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[fossil-users] Moving multiple files

2011-03-28 Thread Louis Hoefler 
Hello everyone,
can fossil recognize moved files automatically?

Thank you, Louis
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Re: [fossil-users] Hierarchy of tickets in fossil

2011-03-28 Thread Ron Wilson 
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 8:48 PM,   wrote:
> I know it's possible to create custom ticket reports, but reports are
> still flat lists, not hierarchies.
>>
> Are there any plans to make ticket management easier in fossil, by
> making it possible to group them into trees

Part of what you are asking can (probably) be accomplished in the SQL
query using the GROUP BY and ORDER BY clauses. THis would result in
each ticket being followed by its children. Unfortunately, I have only
rudimentary knowledge of SQL, so I don't know how to do this.

To get the list to be rendered in a tree structure, you could then use
Javascript. Most likely there is existing Javascript available that
can be adapted (or, possibly, simply configured) to work with the HTML
table generated from the SQL query.

The basic logic for an outline view of the tickets would be to check
the parent-id field of each ticket in turn. If the tcket has the same
parent as the previous ticket, then set the indent level the same as
the previous ticket. If the parent is the previous ticket, then
incement the indent level. If the parent is some earlier ticket, then
set the indent level to 1 plus the parent's indent level. If the
parent ticket has never been seen, then reset the indent level to 0.

I hope this is somewhat helpful.
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Re: [fossil-users] Generated wiki links and name parameter?

2011-03-28 Thread Bill Burdick 
/wiki/pagename does work just as well for wiki pages, but it doesn't handle
attachments -- you could use a different URL prefix for that, if you wanted,
like "wiki-attachment".  There's always a tradeoff between URL path
components and named parameters; it's a matter of taste.  Personally, I'd
say that if you have exactly one required parameter that has a path
structure, then using the URL path might make sense, like with doc links,
but there's no clear-cut rule that says when you "should" choose one
representation or the other.  Using parameters makes it clear that */wiki is
a "service".


Bill


On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Nolan Darilek wrote:

> Why do Fossil-generated links to wiki pages include the ?name=pagename
> parameter when /wiki/pagename seems to work as well as /wiki?name=pagename?
>
> Thanks.
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[fossil-users] File dates

2011-03-28 Thread Volodya Savastiouk 
I've raised this issue before with little success, although a few people 
responded in 
support of the idea.
The issue is the file dates being always today's date whenever one downloads a 
copy from 
the repository or simply opens a local copy. I'd really like to either see the 
file dates 
being the date of the last update or at least have an option of saving the 
update date in 
the filename so I can use that info and force the file date myself.
I figure that all of the necessary information is already in the database and 
the only 
step that's missing is a call to the file system for the file's date/time 
update after it 
is re-created from the database.
Does anybody else feel this is a useful feature/option?

thanks for fossil, I love it!

Vl@dimir
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Re: [fossil-users] File dates

2011-03-28 Thread Ron Aaron 
On 03/28/2011 08:17 PM, Volodya Savastiouk wrote:
> Does anybody else feel this is a useful feature/option?

I do, yes.

> thanks for fossil, I love it!
>

Me too!

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Re: [fossil-users] File dates

2011-03-28 Thread Bill Burdick 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Volodya Savastiouk  wrote:

> I've raised this issue before with little success, although a few people
> responded in
> support of the idea.
> The issue is the file dates being always today's date whenever one
> downloads a copy from
> the repository or simply opens a local copy. I'd really like to either see
> the file dates
> being the date of the last update or at least have an option of saving the
> update date in
> the filename so I can use that info and force the file date myself.
> I figure that all of the necessary information is already in the database
> and the only
> step that's missing is a call to the file system for the file's date/time
> update after it
> is re-created from the database.
> Does anybody else feel this is a useful feature/option?
>
> thanks for fossil, I love it!
>


Oh, wow, I didn't notice that -- haven't been using Fossil for that long.
 Yes, that's definitely important!


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Re: [fossil-users] File dates

2011-03-28 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:17:10PM -0400, Volodya Savastiouk wrote:
> The issue is the file dates being always today's date whenever one
> downloads a copy from the repository or simply opens a local copy.

This was discussed a while ago and I think the agreement was:
(1) Initial open may use the time of last modification for a file.
One problem is that finding this can be quite expensive.

(2) All changes due to updated etc should use the current time.
This is the same behavior as other VCS and required to not break make
etc.

Noone has stepped up yet to implement (1) :)

Joerg
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[fossil-users] fossil add somefile.r&s = Error

2011-03-28 Thread sky5walk 
Hi,
I get the following error attempting to add a file with the
Ampersand(&) in the file extension.
Fossil wrote:
's' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable
program or batch file.

Please advise,
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Re: [fossil-users] fossil add somefile.r&s = Error

2011-03-28 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 04:33:04PM -0400, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> I get the following error attempting to add a file with the
> Ampersand(&) in the file extension.
> Fossil wrote:
> 's' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable
> program or batch file.

Isn't it your shell, telling that? '&' stands for "launch the left process in
background and run that of the right".
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Re: [fossil-users] fossil add somefile.r&s = Error

2011-03-28 Thread Stephan Beal 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:33 PM,  wrote:

> Hi,
> I get the following error attempting to add a file with the
> Ampersand(&) in the file extension.
> Fossil wrote:

's' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable
> program or batch file


That message comes from your shell, not fossil, because your command does
not properly escape the '&' character, which is special in unix-like shells.
You are running two commands:

fossil add somefile.r

is run in the BACKGROUND because of the & character.

then you try to run:

s

The simplest workaround is to quote the filename:

fossil add 'somefile.r&s'


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Re: [fossil-users] fossil add somefile.r&s = Error

2011-03-28 Thread Joshua Paine 
On 03/28/2011 04:33 PM, sky5walk wrote:
> I get the following error attempting to add a file with the
> Ampersand(&) in the file extension.

Try with single or double quotes around the file name.

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Re: [fossil-users] fossil add somefile.r&s = Error

2011-03-28 Thread sky5walk 
DOH!

fossil add "somefile.r&s" does the trick.

This shows how little I am in shell land. :((

Thanks,
Steve

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Stephan Beal  wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:33 PM,  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I get the following error attempting to add a file with the
>> Ampersand(&) in the file extension.
>> Fossil wrote:
>>
>> 's' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable
>> program or batch file
>
> That message comes from your shell, not fossil, because your command does
> not properly escape the '&' character, which is special in unix-like shells.
> You are running two commands:
> fossil add somefile.r
> is run in the BACKGROUND because of the & character.
> then you try to run:
> s
> The simplest workaround is to quote the filename:
> fossil add 'somefile.r&s'
>
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Re: [fossil-users] fossil add somefile.r&s = Error

2011-03-28 Thread Stephan Beal 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Stephan Beal wrote:

> The simplest workaround is to quote the filename:
>
> fossil add 'somefile.r&s'
>

That said, "special" characters in filenames (spaces, quotation marks, and
the like) often cause more grief than simply renaming the files. Lots of
shell scripts are not careful to quote filenames properly and may choke in
unexpected ways when encountering files with special characters.

e.g. if we have a filename "1a b c" (with spaces but no quotes), the
following will not work:

for i in a*; do mv $i $i.bak; done

that will try to move 5 files (if i'm not mis-counting) to a single file
names c.bak.

stephan@tiny:~$ touch '1a b c'
stephan@tiny:~$ for i in 1a*; do echo mv $i $i.bak; done
mv 1a b c 1a b c.bak

As a general rule, to avoid compatibility problems, never use spaces or any
characters which might be prohibited or problematic on some systems. e.g.
having the character ':' in a filename will work on Unix but not Windows.

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil social networking

2011-03-28 Thread Remigiusz Modrzejewski 

On Mar 22, 2011, at 21:55 , Ron Wilson wrote:

> Some have already critisized Fossil for including issue tracking and
> wiki fuctionality, Right now, I think the synergy of the 3 core
> functions is great. I do not see sufficient increase in synergy by
> adding other major functions directly to Fossil. The full capabilities
> of Fossil can be utilized by an extension - especially once hook
> support is implemented.

Especially is not the right word... For many of my "fancy" ideas hooks are the 
only reasonable way. 

Kind regards,
Remigiusz Modrzejewski



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Re: [fossil-users] fossil add somefile.r&s = Error

2011-03-28 Thread Venkat Iyer 

put the filename in quotes.

-Original Message-
From: Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 22:36:10
Subject: Re: [fossil-users] fossil add somefile.r&s = Error

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 04:33:04PM -0400, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
> I get the following error attempting to add a file with the
> Ampersand(&) in the file extension.
> Fossil wrote:
> 's' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable
> program or batch file.

Isn't it your shell, telling that? '&' stands for "launch the left
process in background and run that of the right".
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[fossil-users] Cloning question

2011-03-28 Thread Tony Perovic 
Q: Does cloning (or sync or push or pull) work with CGI?

If Fossil server is running on my server:

Fossil open myrepo.fossil
Fossil server

Then cloning works as expected:

Fossil clone http://myserver:8080/ mycopy.fossil

However, I've got multiple repositories so I'm using a Perl script to process 
CGI requests:

http://myserver/Fossil.pl?repository=\Path\myrepo.fossil

The script looks for repository=\Path\myrepo.fossil and steers Fossil to the 
repository when browsing.

However, this doesn't even invoke the Perl t:

Fossil clone 
http://myserver/Fossil.pl?repository=\Path\myrepo.fossil mycopy.fossil

Where should the requests go?

Note: This is CGI on IIS.

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil social networking

2011-03-28 Thread Bill Burdick 
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Ron Wilson  wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Bill Burdick 
> wrote:
> > Has anyone talked about adding Github-like social networking to Fossil?
>
> Just as github is a serperate project built on top of git, any Fossil
> based social network would be better implemented as a seperate project
> built on top of Fossil.
>
> Some have already critisized Fossil for including issue tracking and
> wiki fuctionality, Right now, I think the synergy of the 3 core
> functions is great. I do not see sufficient increase in synergy by
> adding other major functions directly to Fossil. The full capabilities
> of Fossil can be utilized by an extension - especially once hook
> support is implemented.


Can you link me some info on the hooks?  I didn't need them for the social
networking stuff, but something like server-side scripting with scripts in
the repository would be very nice.  TH1 is good for templating, but
personally, I'd like a "full" language -- a complete TCL or Lua or something
like that.


Bill
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Re: [fossil-users] Cloning question

2011-03-28 Thread Ron Wilson 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Tony Perovic wrote:

>  Q: Does cloning (or sync or push or pull) work with CGI?
>

There is a discussion of this in the Fossil documentation describing ways to
do this. As far as I know, this should work on IIS, but I have no experience
setting up IIS.


>  However, I’ve got multiple repositories so I’m using a Perl script to
> process CGI requests:
>
>
>
> http://myserver/Fossil.pl?repository=\Path\myrepo.fossil
>
>
>
> The script looks for repository=\Path\myrepo.fossil and steers Fossil to
> the repository when browsing.
>

Even with IIS, I think you have to use / instead of \
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Re: [fossil-users] File dates

2011-03-28 Thread Volodya Savastiouk 
On 2:59 PM, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:17:10PM -0400, Volodya Savastiouk wrote:
>> The issue is the file dates being always today's date whenever one
>> downloads a copy from the repository or simply opens a local copy.
> This was discussed a while ago and I think the agreement was:
> (1) Initial open may use the time of last modification for a file.
> One problem is that finding this can be quite expensive.
>
> (2) All changes due to updated etc should use the current time.
> This is the same behavior as other VCS and required to not break make
> etc.
>
> Noone has stepped up yet to implement (1) :)
>
> Joerg
>
OK, thanks to Joerg for clarifying the situation. I will have a look at the 
Fossil code to 
assess if I can contribute.

Vl@dimir
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Re: [fossil-users] File dates

2011-03-28 Thread Mike Meyer 
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:17:10 -0400
Volodya Savastiouk  wrote:

> I've raised this issue before with little success, although a few people 
> responde> The issue is the file dates being always today's date whenever one 
> downloads a copy from 
> the repository or simply opens a local copy. I'd really like to either see 
> the file dates 
> being the date of the last update or at least have an option of saving the 
> update date in 
> the filename so I can use that info and force the file date myself.
> I figure that all of the necessary information is already in the database and 
> the only 
> step that's missing is a call to the file system for the file's date/time 
> update after it 
> is re-created from the database.
> Does anybody else feel this is a useful feature/option?

As noted, this breaks build systems that compare file dates to see if
a file needs to be recompiled. As such, this feature is dangerous.

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Re: [fossil-users] File dates

2011-03-28 Thread Volodya Savastiouk 
On 2:59 PM, Mike Meyer wrote:
> As noted, this breaks build systems that compare file dates to see if
> a file needs to be recompiled. As such, this feature is dangerous.
>
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[fossil-users] Sub-repositories?

2011-03-28 Thread Michael Richter 
I just saw an intriguing message in the timeline.  "Leaf: Merge the sub-repo
capability into trunk."  I can't find anywhere in the help, the fossil docs
nor in the wiki that talks about this.  How does one use this new sub-repo
capability?

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Re: [fossil-users] Sub-repositories?

2011-03-28 Thread Nolan Darilek 
More important, what *are* subrepositories? Entirely separate fossils 
linked to the main repository, or separate namespaces for tags and such 
in a single fossil? Or the ability to open a nested repository in another?

Wondering if I'll need to migrate some of my multi-repository fossils to 
a new format somehow.


On 03/28/2011 09:36 PM, Michael Richter wrote:
> I just saw an intriguing message in the timeline.  "Leaf: Merge the sub-repo
> capability into trunk."  I can't find anywhere in the help, the fossil docs
> nor in the wiki that talks about this.  How does one use this new sub-repo
> capability?
>
>
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Re: [fossil-users] Sub-repositories?

2011-03-28 Thread Bill Burdick 
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Nolan Darilek wrote:

> More important, what *are* subrepositories? Entirely separate fossils
> linked to the main repository, or separate namespaces for tags and such
> in a single fossil? Or the ability to open a nested repository in another?
>
> Wondering if I'll need to migrate some of my multi-repository fossils to
> a new format somehow.
>
>
> On 03/28/2011 09:36 PM, Michael Richter wrote:
> > I just saw an intriguing message in the timeline.  "Leaf: Merge the
> sub-repo
> > capability into trunk."  I can't find anywhere in the help, the fossil
> docs
> > nor in the wiki that talks about this.  How does one use this new
> sub-repo
> > capability?
>

Here's my conjecture, based on how Git does submodules, without having
looked at the Fossil subrepository code...  I'm guessing that in the
repository, a submodule might be represented by an artifact that contains an
identification of the subrepository, plus the identifier of the checked-out
tree for that repository, with a path in a manifest identifying the location
of the subrepository in the directory tree.   A subrepository could be
identified by a Fossil URL or maybe requiring it to be a sibling of the
current repository -- a URL is nice, because it provides a way to retrieve
it when you clone the parent repository.  On disk, a subrepository might be
checked-out as a subdirectory of the current check-out (corresponding to the
entry in the manifest).


Bill
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