Re: [fossil-users] hidden files on linux support?
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Eric wrote: > On Fri, December 2, 2011 7:26 pm, Stephan Beal wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Eric wrote: > > > >> Why on earth would you want to? > >> > >> I know others have offered suggestions and explanations for how to do > >> it, > >> but I would never have a "dotfile" (or a symlink for that matter) in a > >> repository, so I'm really asking about the use-case. > >> > >> > > Think ".gitignore" and friends. Some tools support files like that for > > holding various metadata (some non-git tools support .gitignore). > > > > http://gitready.com/beginner/2009/01/19/ignoring-files.html > > > > Oh, I know about those. But they are one of > > 1) needed at build or install time, in which case the build and install > scripts create them > > 2) part of my common development environment, in which case they are not > part of what I am developing and do not belong in its repository > Do I detect a hint of judgment in your post Eric? Items 1. and 2. are true in your world perhaps but certainly often not in mine. I lost an hour of my time because fossil silently ignored dot files that are a required critical part of a process that I moved from an ancient SCM into fossil. Personally I prefer my tools to let me know if i say "add" and they choose not to do so however the --dotfiles switch suffices. There are a few interesting arenas where "source" is not C, nor any other language you are likely to deal with as a "normal" programmer and yet these arenas can make good use of a tool like fossil and some even pay pretty dang good and maybe even deserve a bit of respect :) > Eric > > -- > ms fnd in a lbry > > ___ > fossil-users mailing list > fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users > ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] hidden files on linux support?
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Eric wrote: > 1) needed at build or install time, in which case the build and install > scripts create them > > 2) part of my common development environment, in which case they are not > part of what I am developing and do not belong in its repository It's not up to fossil to decide what goes into the repository (with some minor exceptions, e.g. certain characters aren't allowed in filenames for portability reasons). Some devs enjoy checking in files matching both conditions (1) and (2). e.g. not all platforms support real build scripts (Windows), in which case adding them to the repo might be a project requirement. e.g. fossil's own makefiles are script-generated, but checked in to the repo nonetheless for build portability reasons. On a similar note, i personally find it "absolutely insane" to manage 200MB binary files via source control, but that doesn't invalidate some peoples' need/desire to do so. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] hidden files on linux support?
On Fri, December 2, 2011 7:26 pm, Stephan Beal wrote: > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Eric wrote: > >> Why on earth would you want to? >> >> I know others have offered suggestions and explanations for how to do >> it, >> but I would never have a "dotfile" (or a symlink for that matter) in a >> repository, so I'm really asking about the use-case. >> >> > Think ".gitignore" and friends. Some tools support files like that for > holding various metadata (some non-git tools support .gitignore). > > http://gitready.com/beginner/2009/01/19/ignoring-files.html > Oh, I know about those. But they are one of 1) needed at build or install time, in which case the build and install scripts create them 2) part of my common development environment, in which case they are not part of what I am developing and do not belong in its repository Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] fossil mirrors out of sync
Last commit on www2.fossil-scm.org: 2011-11-07 07:07 Last commit on www3.fossil-scm.org: 2011-10-03 16:34 See others the same or am I the only one? -- tsbg ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] hidden files on linux support?
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Eric wrote: > Why on earth would you want to? > > I know others have offered suggestions and explanations for how to do it, > but I would never have a "dotfile" (or a symlink for that matter) in a > repository, so I'm really asking about the use-case. > > Think ".gitignore" and friends. Some tools support files like that for holding various metadata (some non-git tools support .gitignore). http://gitready.com/beginner/2009/01/19/ignoring-files.html -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] hidden files on linux support?
On Fri, December 2, 2011 6:36 pm, Oliver Friedrich wrote: > Hi, > > i'm testing out fossil for my source, found an interesting issue. > > Checking in files and folders leaves out hidden files, on linux starting > with a ".". > > How can I get fossil to check those files in? > > Thank you. > > Oliver Why on earth would you want to? I know others have offered suggestions and explanations for how to do it, but I would never have a "dotfile" (or a symlink for that matter) in a repository, so I'm really asking about the use-case. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] hidden files on linux support?
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:36:54 +0100 Oliver Friedrich wrote: > i'm testing out fossil for my source, found an interesting issue. > > Checking in files and folders leaves out hidden files, on linux > starting with a ".". > > How can I get fossil to check those files in? I think you're just having difficulties with understanding how "globbing" typical POSIX shell works: when you do something like $ fossil add * the shell kicks in, matches that "*" against the filesystem and replaces the "*" with the created list of files. Hence the actual command never sees that asterisk (unless you escape it like \* or '*'). And by default a POSIX shell does not match hidden files with "*" (because they are, well, hidden). To work around this, specify each hidden file explicitly (tab completion might help). See this, for a demonstration: http://pastebin.com/Zu0HzWy3 ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] hidden files on linux support?
Perhaps you want: fossil add --dotfiles . On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Oliver Friedrich wrote: > >> i'm testing out fossil for my source, found an interesting issue. >> >> Checking in files and folders leaves out hidden files, on linux starting >> with a ".". >> >> How can I get fossil to check those files in? >> > > Unix doesn't actually have "hidden files" per se - the _convention_ of a > preceeding dot is supported by many tools, though. One of those is shell > wildcards, which do NOT match a dot character. Try: > > fossil add .[a-zA-Z]* > > for example, and you'll get the behaviour you want. > > -- > - stephan beal > http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ > > ___ > fossil-users mailing list > fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users > > ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] hidden files on linux support?
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Oliver Friedrich wrote: > i'm testing out fossil for my source, found an interesting issue. > > Checking in files and folders leaves out hidden files, on linux starting > with a ".". > > How can I get fossil to check those files in? > Unix doesn't actually have "hidden files" per se - the _convention_ of a preceeding dot is supported by many tools, though. One of those is shell wildcards, which do NOT match a dot character. Try: fossil add .[a-zA-Z]* for example, and you'll get the behaviour you want. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] wiki pages
Clear enough, Thank you very much for answering... that fast!! Wonderful product by the way!! On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Erlis Vidal wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is a quick question: Is it possible to "rename" a wiki page. Let's >> say I've change my mind after naming it. Is it possible to rename or delete >> a page? >> > > Fossil does not let you rewrite history. So if you historically had a > wiki page named "xyz" then that page will exist forever. You can create a > new, replacement page with a different name. And you can remove all > content from the latest version of "xyz" to indicate that it is no longer > an active page. But you cannot remove historical contents of wiki pages > (except via the "shun" mechanism, which is a different topic). > > Fossil follows accounting rules: You never erase. If a mistake is found, > instead of erasing, you enter a correction. Always preserve the audit > trail. > > >> Thanks >> Erlis >> >> ___ >> fossil-users mailing list >> fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org >> http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users >> >> > > > -- > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org > > ___ > fossil-users mailing list > fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users > > ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] wiki pages
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Erlis Vidal wrote: > This is a quick question: Is it possible to "rename" a wiki page. Let's > say I've change my mind after naming it. Is it possible to rename or delete > a page? > Nope. That's one of the reasons the "embedded docs" (which support the full wiki syntax/markup as well as having full "file semantics") are generally preferred over the wiki. It might be interesting to note that the main fossil repo no longer actively uses the wiki, using embedded docs instead. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] wiki pages
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Erlis Vidal wrote: > Hi, > > This is a quick question: Is it possible to "rename" a wiki page. Let's > say I've change my mind after naming it. Is it possible to rename or delete > a page? > Fossil does not let you rewrite history. So if you historically had a wiki page named "xyz" then that page will exist forever. You can create a new, replacement page with a different name. And you can remove all content from the latest version of "xyz" to indicate that it is no longer an active page. But you cannot remove historical contents of wiki pages (except via the "shun" mechanism, which is a different topic). Fossil follows accounting rules: You never erase. If a mistake is found, instead of erasing, you enter a correction. Always preserve the audit trail. > Thanks > Erlis > > ___ > fossil-users mailing list > fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users > > -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] hidden files on linux support?
Hi, i'm testing out fossil for my source, found an interesting issue. Checking in files and folders leaves out hidden files, on linux starting with a ".". How can I get fossil to check those files in? Thank you. Oliver ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] wiki pages
Hi, This is a quick question: Is it possible to "rename" a wiki page. Let's say I've change my mind after naming it. Is it possible to rename or delete a page? Thanks Erlis ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Minor usability question
When I'm editing a commit to add a tag, why do I have to check a box then type in a tag name? Is it not sufficient to just type in a new tag name, then assume that if that parameter is an empty string or missing, that no new tag should be added? Not a huge deal, but it seems like a bit of unnecessary ceremony to me. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] event changes don't appear in the timeline
+1 On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 16:19 +0100, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote: > Hello, > > event changes don't appear in the timeline. Maybe they should appear, as > ticket > or commit changes appear? > > Regards, > Lluís. > ___ > fossil-users mailing list > fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] event changes don't appear in the timeline
Hello, event changes don't appear in the timeline. Maybe they should appear, as ticket or commit changes appear? Regards, Lluís. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
