Re: [fossil-users] Support for Zscaler proxy...

2012-05-15 Thread altufaltu
Update: fossil does work through the proxy.

Problem seems to be with the proxy, it gives 'bad request' error when user@ is 
added to URL in POST method.

I'll work with IT folks for fixing it.

 - Original Message -
 From: altufa...@mail.com
 Sent: 05/15/12 03:57 PM
 To: Fossil SCM user's discussion
 Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Support for Zscaler proxy...
 
 It seems fossil sends POST method to proxy server (I tried fossil pull ...).
 I tested git through proxy (socat - proxy:wwwproxy:$1:$2,proxyport=80) and it 
 works, using CONNECT method.
 
 I'll look at ssl code to see if non-ssl can also use CONNECT method.
 
 
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  From: Gé Weijers
  Sent: 05/14/12 11:31 PM
  To: Fossil SCM user's discussion
  Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Support for Zscaler proxy...
  
  Connecting to an HTTPS server through a proxy uses the connect method, if
  your IT dept. even bothers to route HTTPS through Zscaler.
  
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Re: [fossil-users] Support for Zscaler proxy...

2012-05-15 Thread Stephan Beal
Be aware that fossil uses cgi mode, even when in standalone server mode,
and that cgi does not support  all request types (e.g. PUT and DELETE
iirc).

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On May 15, 2012 12:28 PM, altufa...@mail.com wrote:

 It seems fossil sends POST method to proxy server (I tried fossil pull
 ...).
 I tested git through proxy (socat - proxy:wwwproxy:$1:$2,proxyport=80) and
 it works, using CONNECT method.

 I'll look at ssl code to see if non-ssl can also use CONNECT method.


  - Original Message -
  From: Gé Weijers
  Sent: 05/14/12 11:31 PM
  To: Fossil SCM user's discussion
  Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Support for Zscaler proxy...
 
  Connecting to an HTTPS server through a proxy uses the connect method, if
  your IT dept. even bothers to route HTTPS through Zscaler.
 
  --
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Re: [fossil-users] Announcement: DRH to be in Munich, Germany July 3rd, 2012

2012-05-15 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:20:28PM +0200, Stephan Beal wrote:
 1.5) If you happen to know of a *flat-rate* mobile internet provider in
 Germany, please let me know!

BILD.mobil might be the best option. They have pre-paid data cards for
around 7EUR / week, 1GB high speed. You might need someone in .de to buy
it for you though.

Joerg
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Re: [fossil-users] Announcement: DRH to be in Munich, Germany July 3rd, 2012

2012-05-15 Thread Stephan Beal
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Joerg Sonnenberger jo...@britannica.bec.de
 wrote:

 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:20:28PM +0200, Stephan Beal wrote:
  1.5) If you happen to know of a *flat-rate* mobile internet provider in
  Germany, please let me know!

 BILD.mobil might be the best option. They have pre-paid data cards for
 around 7EUR / week, 1GB high speed. You might need someone in .de to buy
 it for you though.


Thank you, Joerg!

@All: If any of you are interested in that option for purposes of Richard's
visit, but do not live in Germany, contact me off-list and we can get you
set up (i live in Munich).

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[fossil-users] Fossil commands will not follow through managed symlink dirs

2012-05-15 Thread James Masters
Hi all,

Please consider the following test (in Linux on version 1.22):

% mkdir dir_a
% ln -s dir_a dir_b
% touch dir_a/foo
% fossil add dir_a/foo
ADDED  dir_a/foo
% fossil commit dir_a/foo -m 'adding test'
ADDED  dir_a/foo
...
% fossil ann dir_a/foo
% fossil ann dir_b/foo
fossil: no such file: dir_b/foo
I realize that fossil probably only responds to the real managed path in
dir_a.  But this situation may be confusing...

thanks
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil commands will not follow through managed symlink dirs

2012-05-15 Thread Stephan Beal
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 7:51 PM, James Masters james.d.mast...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 Please consider the following test (in Linux on version 1.22):

 % ln -s dir_a dir_b
 ...
 % fossil ann dir_a/foo
 % fossil ann dir_b/foo
 fossil: no such file: dir_b/foo




 I realize that fossil probably only responds to the real managed path in
 dir_a.  But this situation may be confusing...


Fossil only knows anything useful about added-and-checked-in files, and the
name dir_b/foo does not refer to a file it knows. Whether fossil _should_
or _can_ resolve symlinks that way is a question we must wait for Richard
to answer, i suspect.

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil commands will not follow through managed symlink dirs

2012-05-15 Thread Richard Hipp
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM, James Masters james.d.mast...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,

 Please consider the following test (in Linux on version 1.22):

 % mkdir dir_a
 % ln -s dir_a dir_b
 % touch dir_a/foo
 % fossil add dir_a/foo
 ADDED  dir_a/foo
 % fossil commit dir_a/foo -m 'adding test'
 ADDED  dir_a/foo
 ...
 % fossil ann dir_a/foo
 % fossil ann dir_b/foo
 fossil: no such file: dir_b/foo
 I realize that fossil probably only responds to the real managed path in
 dir_a.  But this situation may be confusing...


I'm not following the confusion here.  Fossil can only annotate files that
have been checked in and have history.  You've never before checked in
dir_b/foo.  It is random file that Fossil knows nothing about.  It says as
much when you ask to annotate it.  How can one make this less confusing?



 thanks
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil commands will not follow through managed symlink dirs

2012-05-15 Thread Stephan Beal
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 % ln -s dir_a dir_b

 I'm not following the confusion here.  Fossil can only annotate files that
 have been checked in and have history.  You've never before checked in
 dir_b/foo.  It is


The key part is the symlink and whether fossil should/could resolve
dir_b/foo to dir_a/foo.

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil commands will not follow through managed symlink dirs

2012-05-15 Thread Stephan Beal
Accidentally replied off-list...

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 dir_b/foo does not refer to a file it knows. Whether fossil _should_ or
 _can_ resolve symlinks that way is a question we must wait for Richard to
 answer, i suspect.


And i meant to add...

Whether or not fossil could/should do this for symlinks is 100% up to
Richard because:

a) it's potentially a backwards-compatibility issue, which he does not like
at all.

b) it's a platform-specific behaviour, which we try to minimize because
it's harder to test (he and i both work under some flavour of Unix, as do
most (but not all) other contributors).

c) there is no right/wrong answer. i.e., it's a largely a philosophical
question, and those tend to trouble us because there is no provably
correct answer ;).
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil commands will not follow through managed symlink dirs

2012-05-15 Thread James Masters
This will probably start a new thread... if so, then sorry... I have digest
mode enabled and it is not clear to me how to reply directly to a
particular thread when using the digest.  Anyway, my response is below:

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 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM, James Masters james.d.mast...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  Please consider the following test (in Linux on version 1.22):
 
  % mkdir dir_a
  % ln -s dir_a dir_b
  % touch dir_a/foo
  % fossil add dir_a/foo
  ADDED  dir_a/foo
  % fossil commit dir_a/foo -m 'adding test'
  ADDED  dir_a/foo
  ...
  % fossil ann dir_a/foo
  % fossil ann dir_b/foo
  fossil: no such file: dir_b/foo
  I realize that fossil probably only responds to the real managed path
 in
  dir_a.  But this situation may be confusing...
 

 I'm not following the confusion here.  Fossil can only annotate files that
 have been checked in and have history.  You've never before checked in
 dir_b/foo.  It is random file that Fossil knows nothing about.  It says as
 much when you ask to annotate it.  How can one make this less confusing?

Sorry, I missed the crucial step of adding and comitting dir_b as a
symlink.  Please append this to my example above:

% fsl add dir_b
ADDED  dir_b
% fsl commit dir_b -m 'adding symlink'
ADDED  dir_b
...
% fsl ann dir_b/foo
fossil: no such file: dir_b/foo
The confusion is that dir_b is a symlink to dir_a and when I follow that
symlink for normal file operations, it operates upon the file as if it were
a normal dir/file at the OS level.  But not with fossil.  I'm just bringing
this up as it caused a bit of confusion for me until I probed deeper and
found this out.

BTW, the first example, is probably still something that may also be
considered to be addressed.

thanks
James
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil commands will not follow through managed symlink dirs

2012-05-15 Thread Ron Wilson
On 5/15/12, James Masters james.d.mast...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, I missed the crucial step of adding and comitting dir_b as a
 symlink.  Please append this to my example above:

 % fsl add dir_b
 ADDED  dir_b
 % fsl commit dir_b -m 'adding symlink'
 ADDED  dir_b
 ...
 % fsl ann dir_b/foo
 fossil: no such file: dir_b/foo
 The confusion is that dir_b is a symlink to dir_a and when I follow that
 symlink for normal file operations, it operates upon the file as if it were
 a normal dir/file at the OS level.  But not with fossil.

To most applications, dir_a/foo and dir_b/foo are 2 seperate files. In
Unix derived OSes, symbolic links are designed to be transparant to
applications that are ignorant of sym links.

You might argue that Fossil has a need to be aware of sym links, else
you end up with 2 (or more) of the same file under different names
(where name == the full path), but there are more complications. Even
if sym links worked exactly the same in all OSes, how to treat any
given sym link is an open question subject to a lot of debate.

For me, sym links would be a way to reference the working copy of a
shared subproject in a project's working copy. While SVN's way of
handling external references works, in my experience, it is too easy
to end up with multiple working copies of the same shared project, so
even with that usage model, there are complications.
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Re: [fossil-users] Trac-to-Fossil Was: Wysiwyg wiki editing. Was: Side-by-side wiki editing?

2012-05-15 Thread Christopher Vance
On 15 May 2012 03:01, Ron Wilson ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would guess that Trac stores its wiki pages in version control, so
 the main issue there would be Trac wiki markup vs Fossil (or other)
 wiki markup. If there is a client side renderer for Trac's markup,
 markup conversion would not be an issue. They are likely other issues,
 though.

Trac's versioning for wiki and issues is native to Trac, and is used
solely for the wiki and issues. The version control of the source for
a project is entirely separate.

 I have no idea how Trac manages issues nor if there is a plug-in
 interface for issues. If it simply stores the issues as files in
 version control, then maybe the plug-in could recognise issues based
 on file extension or other pattern match, then provide Fossil specific
 handling.

Trac does not use your source control choice for issues or wiki.

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Re: [fossil-users] Trac-to-Fossil Was: Wysiwyg wiki editing. Was: Side-by-side wiki editing?

2012-05-15 Thread Scott Robison
 On 15 May 2012 03:01, Ron Wilson ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 Trac's versioning for wiki and issues is native to Trac, and is used
 solely for the wiki and issues. The version control of the source for
 a project is entirely separate.

 Trac does not use your source control choice for issues or wiki.

Though as I recall, the (default at least) database is SQLite. :)
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Re: [fossil-users] Trac-to-Fossil Was: Wysiwyg wiki editing. Was: Side-by-side wiki editing?

2012-05-15 Thread Richard Hipp
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Scott Robison sc...@scottrobison.uswrote:

  On 15 May 2012 03:01, Ron Wilson ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote:
  Trac's versioning for wiki and issues is native to Trac, and is used
  solely for the wiki and issues. The version control of the source for
  a project is entirely separate.
 
  Trac does not use your source control choice for issues or wiki.

 Though as I recall, the (default at least) database is SQLite. :)


The connections run much deeper.  See
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracHistory for a brief history of Trac.
Never heard of CVSTrac?  Try using ping to find the IP address of
www.cvstrac.org.  Now do the same with www.sqlite.org and www.fossil-scm.org.




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