Re: [fossil-users] fossil 1.24 not working via ssh
I've tested this here (with Fossil-4473a27f3b6e049e) but can only report partial success: * it works using bash/ksh as login shell on the remote machine _if_ there is not too much text (the allocated buffer size (5) is still rather modest but usually sure sufficient) coming in from `.profile' over the ssh connection. so that's a clear step forward. however: * it does _not_ work if the default verbose (multi-line/blank line separated multi-paragraph, but much shorter than 5 bytes) ubuntu motd stuff comes in. the (visible) offending text looks something like this: 8-- Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-32-generic x86_64) * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/ System information as of Mon Nov 12 13:20:41 CET 2012 System load: 0.04 Processes: 114 Usage of /: 72.3% of 9.96GB Users logged in: 2 Memory usage: 22% IP address for eth0: 123.456.78.90 Swap usage: 0% Graph this data and manage this system at https://landscape.canonical.com/ 0 packages can be updated. 0 updates are security updates. 8-- - what's strange is: if I copy this text into an `echo' command within `.profile' and then deactivate the MOTD (so seeminly getting the same stuff send over the ssh connection during login), it works flawlessly!?. my guess would be that there are some unprintable characters/escapes sent as well which I do not see so that copying the MOTD to `.profile' is not really the same thing as what is happening when ubuntu sends the stuff. * it also does _not_ work (with bash that is: ksh keeps working) if I myself send some escape sequences from my login scripts (as mentioned in a previous mail intended to dynamically adjust my xterm-titlebars). what's happening here is completely unclear to me, since it seems bash specific. what's worse: issuing the respective `echo' directly in the script instead of within a shell-function (as is usually done in my setup) does not lead to a failure. my setup might be somewhat esoteric here, so maybe it's not too important, but it indicates of course that there still is something fundamentally not OK. * and it does not at all work with tcsh as login shell on the remote machine (even if login is completely silent). in this case I get the error message tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified TERM: Undefined variable. Fossil-4473a27f3b6e049e/fossil: ssh connection failed: [test1 probe-4f5d9ab4] so, seemingly `tcsh' users are out of luck anyway. questions: * maybe the (echo/flush) process has to be iterated one further time to make fossil happy with ubuntu's motd (after all it's not the least frequent linux distro)? * could fossil (or a debug version) not provide a (additional) hexdump (a la `hexdump -C' on linux) of the content of `zIn' instead of using `fossil_fatal(ssh connection failed: [%s], zIn);'? in this way one might be able to at least to recognize what exactly is coming in which might help in tracking down the source of the trouble: it need not be printable characters coming over the ssh connection after all. j. On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:44:31 +0100, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: I'll top-post an answer to this one as this thread has wandered and gotten very long, so who knows who is still following :) I made a simple tweak to the ssh code that gets ssh working for me on Ubuntu and may solve some of the login shell related problems that have been reported with respect to ssh: http://www.kiatoa.com/cgi-bin/fossils/fossil/fdiff?v1=935bc0a983135b26v2=61f9ddf1e2c8bbb0 Not exactly the same patch, but something quite similar has been checked in at http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/4473a27f3b - please try it out and let me know if it clears any outstanding problems, or if I missed some obvious benefit of Matt's patch in my refactoring. Joerg iasked if this will make it into a future release. Can Richard or one of the developers take a look at the change and comment? Note that unfortunately this does not fix the issues I'm having with fsecure ssh but I hope it gets us one step closer. Thanks, Matt -=- On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 1:53 PM, j. v. d. hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 19:35:25 +0100, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 2:56 AM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.com**wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:39:27 +0100, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: sshfs is cool but in a corporate environment it can't always be used. For example fuse is not installed for end users on the servers I have access to. I would also be very wary of sshfs and multi-user access. Sqlite3 locking on NFS doesn't always
Re: [fossil-users] fossil 1.24 not working via ssh
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:36 AM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote: I've tested this here (with Fossil-4473a27f3b6e049e) but can only report partial success: * it works using bash/ksh as login shell on the remote machine _if_ there is not too much text (the allocated buffer size (5) is still rather modest but usually sure sufficient) coming in from `.profile' over the ssh connection. so that's a clear step forward. however: * it does _not_ work if the default verbose (multi-line/blank line separated multi-paragraph, but much shorter than 5 bytes) ubuntu motd stuff comes in. the (visible) offending text looks something like this: Please try again using http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/00cf858afe and let me know if the situation improves. If it still is not working, please run with the --sshtrace command-line option and send me the diagnostic output. Thanks. 8**--** Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-32-generic x86_64) * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/ System information as of Mon Nov 12 13:20:41 CET 2012 System load: 0.04 Processes: 114 Usage of /: 72.3% of 9.96GB Users logged in: 2 Memory usage: 22% IP address for eth0: 123.456.78.90 Swap usage: 0% Graph this data and manage this system at https://landscape.canonical.** com/ https://landscape.canonical.com/ 0 packages can be updated. 0 updates are security updates. 8**--** - what's strange is: if I copy this text into an `echo' command within `.profile' and then deactivate the MOTD (so seeminly getting the same stuff send over the ssh connection during login), it works flawlessly!?. my guess would be that there are some unprintable characters/escapes sent as well which I do not see so that copying the MOTD to `.profile' is not really the same thing as what is happening when ubuntu sends the stuff. * it also does _not_ work (with bash that is: ksh keeps working) if I myself send some escape sequences from my login scripts (as mentioned in a previous mail intended to dynamically adjust my xterm-titlebars). what's happening here is completely unclear to me, since it seems bash specific. what's worse: issuing the respective `echo' directly in the script instead of within a shell-function (as is usually done in my setup) does not lead to a failure. my setup might be somewhat esoteric here, so maybe it's not too important, but it indicates of course that there still is something fundamentally not OK. * and it does not at all work with tcsh as login shell on the remote machine (even if login is completely silent). in this case I get the error message tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified TERM: Undefined variable. Fossil-4473a27f3b6e049e/**fossil: ssh connection failed: [test1 probe-4f5d9ab4] so, seemingly `tcsh' users are out of luck anyway. questions: * maybe the (echo/flush) process has to be iterated one further time to make fossil happy with ubuntu's motd (after all it's not the least frequent linux distro)? * could fossil (or a debug version) not provide a (additional) hexdump (a la `hexdump -C' on linux) of the content of `zIn' instead of using `fossil_fatal(ssh connection failed: [%s], zIn);'? in this way one might be able to at least to recognize what exactly is coming in which might help in tracking down the source of the trouble: it need not be printable characters coming over the ssh connection after all. j. On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:44:31 +0100, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: I'll top-post an answer to this one as this thread has wandered and gotten very long, so who knows who is still following :) I made a simple tweak to the ssh code that gets ssh working for me on Ubuntu and may solve some of the login shell related problems that have been reported with respect to ssh: http://www.kiatoa.com/cgi-bin/**fossils/fossil/fdiff?v1=** 935bc0a983135b26v2=**61f9ddf1e2c8bbb0http://www.kiatoa.com/cgi-bin/fossils/fossil/fdiff?v1=935bc0a983135b26v2=61f9ddf1e2c8bbb0 Not exactly the same patch, but something quite similar has been checked in at http://www.fossil-scm.org/**fossil/info/4473a27f3bhttp://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/4473a27f3b- please try it out and let me know if it clears any outstanding problems, or if I missed some obvious benefit of Matt's patch in my refactoring. Joerg iasked if this will make it into a future release. Can Richard or one of the developers take a look at the change and comment? Note that unfortunately this does not fix the issues I'm having with fsecure ssh but I hope it gets us one step closer. Thanks, Matt -=- On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 1:53 PM, j. v. d. hoff
Re: [fossil-users] fossil 1.24 not working via ssh
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Please try again using http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/00cf858afeand let me know if the situation improves. If it still is not working, please run with the --sshtrace command-line option and send me the diagnostic output. Thanks. Further improvements. Please try: http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/5776dfad81 -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] fossil 1.24 not working via ssh
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:51:04 +0100, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:36 AM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote: I've tested this here (with Fossil-4473a27f3b6e049e) but can only report partial success: * it works using bash/ksh as login shell on the remote machine _if_ there is not too much text (the allocated buffer size (5) is still rather modest but usually sure sufficient) coming in from `.profile' over the ssh connection. so that's a clear step forward. however: * it does _not_ work if the default verbose (multi-line/blank line separated multi-paragraph, but much shorter than 5 bytes) ubuntu motd stuff comes in. the (visible) offending text looks something like this: Please try again using http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/00cf858afe and let me know if the situation improves. If it still is not working, indeed it does: congratulation! * it now works without problems both with bash and ksh and does no longer choke on ubuntu's motd stuff (nor on 'my' escape sequences). putting excessively much text in the way still leads to a failure but that's probably rather a feature... * with tcsh, I most of the time get 8--- tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified TERM: Undefined variable. Bytes Cards Artifacts Deltas Sent: 53 1 0 0 waiting for server... 8--- where it hangs infinitely (this is an extrapolation from the actually waited ~ 30 sec...) sporadically, however, it does not issue 'waiting for server' (or it's overwritten to quickly) and actually completes successfully. this might very well be a real tcsh issue (in which case one might contact the maintainers) but if this could reliably be handled as well I presume the problem is solved completely. here, several colleagues (not me any more) still stick with tcsh for interactive work and it quite probably still is the default shell on most BSD descendants (not on macosX, though). thanks a lot. please run with the --sshtrace command-line option and send me the diagnostic output. Thanks. I see the command in the source but it seems not to be recognized. how is it supposed to be called? 8**--** Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-32-generic x86_64) * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/ System information as of Mon Nov 12 13:20:41 CET 2012 System load: 0.04 Processes: 114 Usage of /: 72.3% of 9.96GB Users logged in: 2 Memory usage: 22% IP address for eth0: 123.456.78.90 Swap usage: 0% Graph this data and manage this system at https://landscape.canonical.** com/ https://landscape.canonical.com/ 0 packages can be updated. 0 updates are security updates. 8**--** - what's strange is: if I copy this text into an `echo' command within `.profile' and then deactivate the MOTD (so seeminly getting the same stuff send over the ssh connection during login), it works flawlessly!?. my guess would be that there are some unprintable characters/escapes sent as well which I do not see so that copying the MOTD to `.profile' is not really the same thing as what is happening when ubuntu sends the stuff. * it also does _not_ work (with bash that is: ksh keeps working) if I myself send some escape sequences from my login scripts (as mentioned in a previous mail intended to dynamically adjust my xterm-titlebars). what's happening here is completely unclear to me, since it seems bash specific. what's worse: issuing the respective `echo' directly in the script instead of within a shell-function (as is usually done in my setup) does not lead to a failure. my setup might be somewhat esoteric here, so maybe it's not too important, but it indicates of course that there still is something fundamentally not OK. * and it does not at all work with tcsh as login shell on the remote machine (even if login is completely silent). in this case I get the error message tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified TERM: Undefined variable. Fossil-4473a27f3b6e049e/**fossil: ssh connection failed: [test1 probe-4f5d9ab4] so, seemingly `tcsh' users are out of luck anyway. questions: * maybe the (echo/flush) process has to be iterated one further time to make fossil happy with ubuntu's motd (after all it's not the least frequent linux distro)? * could fossil (or a debug version) not provide a (additional) hexdump (a la `hexdump -C' on linux) of the content of `zIn' instead of using `fossil_fatal(ssh connection failed: [%s], zIn);'? in this way one might be able to at least to recognize what exactly is coming in which might help in tracking down the source of the trouble: it need not be printable characters
Re: [fossil-users] fossil 1.24 not working via ssh
This works for me also but I had to comment out the adding of -p as the port was coming though as 0 (this is using fsecure ssh, tcsh, SLES9.) #ifdef __MINGW32__ blob_appendf(zCmd, -P %d, g.urlPort); #else /* blob_appendf(zCmd, -p %d, g.urlPort); */ I also haven't made sense of the URL syntax. In rsync I would specify rsync -avz mrwellan@localhost:~/fossils/fossil.fossil but that doesn't seem to work. The full path with two leading slashes seems to work. == fsl set | grep ssh ssh-command (global) ssh -t chlr11723 rm mt.fossil* ; ( cd .. ; make ) ../fossil clone ssh://localhost://nfs/ch/disks/ch_home_disk002/mrwellan/fossils/megatest.fossil mt.fossil make: Nothing to be done for `all'. ssh -t -p 0 localhost Error: in option 'port': invalid option value Broken pipe On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:40 AM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.comwrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 15:51:04 +0100, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:36 AM, j. van den hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.com**wrote: I've tested this here (with Fossil-4473a27f3b6e049e) but can only report partial success: * it works using bash/ksh as login shell on the remote machine _if_ there is not too much text (the allocated buffer size (5) is still rather modest but usually sure sufficient) coming in from `.profile' over the ssh connection. so that's a clear step forward. however: * it does _not_ work if the default verbose (multi-line/blank line separated multi-paragraph, but much shorter than 5 bytes) ubuntu motd stuff comes in. the (visible) offending text looks something like this: Please try again using http://www.fossil-scm.org/**fossil/info/00cf858afehttp://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/00cf858afeand let me know if the situation improves. If it still is not working, indeed it does: congratulation! * it now works without problems both with bash and ksh and does no longer choke on ubuntu's motd stuff (nor on 'my' escape sequences). putting excessively much text in the way still leads to a failure but that's probably rather a feature... * with tcsh, I most of the time get 8--- tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified TERM: Undefined variable. Bytes Cards Artifacts Deltas Sent: 53 1 0 0 waiting for server... 8--- where it hangs infinitely (this is an extrapolation from the actually waited ~ 30 sec...) sporadically, however, it does not issue 'waiting for server' (or it's overwritten to quickly) and actually completes successfully. this might very well be a real tcsh issue (in which case one might contact the maintainers) but if this could reliably be handled as well I presume the problem is solved completely. here, several colleagues (not me any more) still stick with tcsh for interactive work and it quite probably still is the default shell on most BSD descendants (not on macosX, though). thanks a lot. please run with the --sshtrace command-line option and send me the diagnostic output. Thanks. I see the command in the source but it seems not to be recognized. how is it supposed to be called? 8**--** Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.0-32-generic x86_64) * Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/ System information as of Mon Nov 12 13:20:41 CET 2012 System load: 0.04 Processes: 114 Usage of /: 72.3% of 9.96GB Users logged in: 2 Memory usage: 22% IP address for eth0: 123.456.78.90 Swap usage: 0% Graph this data and manage this system at https://landscape.canonical. ** com/ https://landscape.canonical.**com/https://landscape.canonical.com/ 0 packages can be updated. 0 updates are security updates. 8**--** - what's strange is: if I copy this text into an `echo' command within `.profile' and then deactivate the MOTD (so seeminly getting the same stuff send over the ssh connection during login), it works flawlessly!?. my guess would be that there are some unprintable characters/escapes sent as well which I do not see so that copying the MOTD to `.profile' is not really the same thing as what is happening when ubuntu sends the stuff. * it also does _not_ work (with bash that is: ksh keeps working) if I myself send some escape sequences from my login scripts (as mentioned in a previous mail intended to dynamically adjust my xterm-titlebars). what's happening here is completely unclear to me, since it seems bash specific. what's worse: issuing the respective `echo' directly in the script instead of within a shell-function (as is usually done in my setup) does not lead to a failure. my setup might be somewhat esoteric
Re: [fossil-users] fossil 1.24 not working via ssh
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:23:22 +0100, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Please try again using http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/00cf858afeand let me know if the situation improves. If it still is not working, please run with the --sshtrace command-line option and send me the diagnostic output. Thanks. Further improvements. Please try: http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/5776dfad81 still works nicely with bash and ksh ;-). I think that is good news for fossil: ssh protocol should just work with any DVCS. running into trouble in this area might turn people off quickly I'd say. -- regarding behaviour under tcsh, this remains somewhat erratic for me: mostly I get the infinite 'waiting for server...' message but if I try repeatedly, one of the trials (about every third or so) succeeds. so for tcsh users fossill might still make a mixed impression. I, for one, am happy now (and have, as an aside, confirmed my impression that ksh93 really is a saner shell than bash). j. -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Multi-lingual fossil site?
Hi - I would like to have a site whose content is managed by fossil, and actually have the site be presented by fossil. That's pretty easy. The reason I want this is the extreme ease of deployment as well as having SCM control over the content. What I would further like is to have multi-lingual content. For example, have the same pages in English and Spanish. I could accomplish that by making a document tree: docs/en/... docs/es/... and so forth, and directing people from the main page to whatever sub-page supports their language. I can write some Javascript to determine their language and put it in the header, and perhaps read a cookie to get their preferred settings for my site; but is there any TH1 support to help manage this? It would be nice if I could add a tag lang=es for example to a query, and have fossil give me the Spanish version of the page if there was one (rather than maintaining separate document trees: I would have docs/page-en.html and docs/page-es.html) ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
