Re: [fossil-users] Why do we need a fossil hosting service?

2013-04-02 Thread Ron Wilson
On 3/30/13, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Fossil _repos_ are indeed intended to be used by relatively few people at a
 time. Fossil is designed for small, relatively tight-knit teams. It does
 not directly support deep hierarchies of developers like git does.

From my limited experience with git, a few years ago, git does 2
things that require extra effort to do in Fossil:

1. Changes from below do not automatically propogate. This allows
(requires) adevelopper to inspect/integrate received changed before
sending them up.

2. A developper can receive changes from his/her subordinates in to a
named branch. That is, the subordinate's trunk is pulled/pushed in to
the receiver's repo as a named branch. The receiver then explicitly
diffs/merges/integrates the received changes in to his/her trunk (or
other branch)

#2 could be handled by the subordinate developpers only commiting
changes to named branches instead of the trunk. Working using named
branches is a good idea, anyway, so this is not much of a burden.

As for #1, as long as the subordinates are only commiting to named
branches, if those branches are tagged privated, then they won't be
automatically propogated.

Question: If I push my non-private, named banch to another developper,
can he/she tag it private in his/her repo, or will my pushes override
the private tag on my branch in his/her repo?

Also, I forget, can pushes/pulls to trunk be blocked while allowing to
named branches?
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Re: [fossil-users] Why do we need a fossil hosting service?

2013-04-02 Thread Steve Havelka
On 03/30/2013 02:59 AM, Stephan Beal wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Steve Havelka yo...@q7.com
 mailto:yo...@q7.com wrote:

 You're saying that Fossil is intended to be used by few people, or
 that
 Fossil is intended not to have a user community?


 Fossil _repos_ are indeed intended to be used by relatively few people
 at a time. Fossil is designed for small, relatively tight-knit teams.
 It does not directly support deep hierarchies of developers like git does.

I think the original poster, in mentioning community and the momentum
that can come with it, was not referring to the number of contributors
to any given project. My suspicion is that most of the repositories on
Github have one or a few contributors, too.

I think--and speak up please, Matt, if I'm misinterpreting or have
misunderstood you--that Matt was obliquely referring to how much better
off a tool is when there are lots and lots of people using it, improving
it, building auxiliary tools around it, thinking on it, etc. I think
it'd be just grand if lots more people used Fossil, and brought their
ideas, code, and improvements to the table too. I can't really see a
downside to this. That's the sort of stuff that Github has helped do for
git, that we'd do well to have built around Fossil.








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Re: [fossil-users] auto.def:79: Error: Request for undeclared option --markdown

2013-04-02 Thread Ryan Noll
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Jan Nijtmans jan.nijtm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Starting with
  [4dcea80236] http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/4dcea80236 on
 linux, I get:

 $ ./configure
 Host System...x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
 Build System...x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
 C compiler... cc -g -O2
 Build C compiler...cc
 Checking for stdlib.h...ok
 
 auto.def:79: Error: Request for undeclared option --markdown


I was receiving the same message too, but on FreeBSD 8.3.


 On Windows everything is OK.


I too received the same message when compiling with Visual Studio 2010.

However, I tried a later revision, 9f931a7569, and both appear to work fine
on Windows and FreeBSD.
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[fossil-users] font boosting on chrome for android phone

2013-04-02 Thread Martin Gagnon
Hi,

I get an android phone recently, and I notice that the fossil timeline look
weird on it, some commit entry have bigger font size and this make the
timeline to look pretty ugly. I see the same thing with chrome and firefox
for android while I never had this problem on my iPhone before.

After googling a bit, I found that this is cause by the font boosting
feature that is supposedly buggy.

   http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11289166/chrome-on-android-resizes-font

After trying some of the suggestion from this link, I found that adding:

   min-height 1px;
   max-height: 99px;

for the div.content element on the CSS configuration solve the problem
and in my case, it doesn't affect my desktop browser. (chrome and firefox)

Someone else notice the same ?  Would it be possible to add this workaround
if it doesn't break other browser ?

I don't have much experience in html/css to tell if this is the best
workaround.

Regards,

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Re: [fossil-users] Why do we need a fossil hosting service?

2013-04-02 Thread Matt Welland
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Steve Havelka yo...@q7.com wrote:

  On 03/30/2013 02:59 AM, Stephan Beal wrote:


  On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Steve Havelka yo...@q7.com wrote:

 You're saying that Fossil is intended to be used by few people, or that
  Fossil is intended not to have a user community?


  Fossil _repos_ are indeed intended to be used by relatively few people
 at a time. Fossil is designed for small, relatively tight-knit teams. It
 does not directly support deep hierarchies of developers like git does.


 I think the original poster, in mentioning community and the momentum
 that can come with it, was not referring to the number of contributors to
 any given project. My suspicion is that most of the repositories on Github
 have one or a few contributors, too.

 I think--and speak up please, Matt, if I'm misinterpreting or have
 misunderstood you--that Matt was obliquely referring to how much better off
 a tool is when there are lots and lots of people using it, improving it,
 building auxiliary tools around it, thinking on it, etc. I think it'd be
 just grand if lots more people used Fossil, and brought their ideas, code,
 and improvements to the table too. I can't really see a downside to this.
 That's the sort of stuff that Github has helped do for git, that we'd do
 well to have built around Fossil.


Yes, although lots of contributors to a single project might be great and
might need the features that git provides that is not the collaborative
energy I'm referring to. It is more that there are lots of people browsing
github, using git itself, and, occasionally, finding interesting projects
and forking them and making contributions. I think that fossil will grow
into a better tool with more widespread use and a hosting service with some
features that make participating in existing projects in a detached way
(i.e. unblessed forks) could contribute to that growth.

Because it is easier to use than git (at least in my opinion) fossil does
have an opportunity here to grow if the existing community wants to make
that happen.

It seems to me that unblessed forks could be supported within the same
repository with by adding some optional features:

1. Allowing logged in users to create branches with their user name as the
prefix.

2. Adding branch name pattern filtering to sync.

3. Adding a mechanism to shun based on branch name.

A project owner could turn on the name-prefix branches to enable unblessed
contributions. People could sync everything or just the things they want
using the branch filtering. Cleaning up after a mistake or obnoxious user
would be as simple as shunning all on that branch.

I know that the database uses deltas and it I suspect some of these actions
might require some non-trivial re-processing of stored data but it does
seem technically feasible and might be worth considering for implementation
one day.


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