[fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privileges subscripts.
Hello, I like the new characters for the inherited privileges, however, I find that the R character, and the text that precedes it also being black, to be not very readable. The R character make Write Wiki look like Write WikiR to me (except the R is slightly subscripted and also other words with R that follow seem to be similarly difficult to read). I would like to propose the following: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/957d0374073603321064655462bcaace585a9f9f This causes the subscript to have just a little more space between it and the word it follows, which makes it much easier to tell that it isn't part of the word. The subscripts with color of course are easily discernable as not part of the word because of the contrast in color. Thanks, Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 400054265429 ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privileges subscripts.
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org
wrote:
WikiR to me (except the R is slightly subscripted and also other words
with R that follow seem to be similarly difficult to read). I would like
to propose the following:
http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/957d0374073603321064655462bcaace585a9f9f
This causes the subscript to have just a little more space between it
Another alternative might be to wrap the subscripted characters in
parens/braces, e.g. (R), [R], or {R}.
:-?
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Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privileges subscripts.
Thus said Stephan Beal on Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:44:27 +0200:
Another alternative might be to wrap the subscripted characters in
parens/braces, e.g. (R), [R], or {R}.
Good suggestion. I think I like [R] and it looks quite nice with both
the CSS and the []:
http://fossil.bradfords.org:8080/setup_uedit?id=2
I'm not CSS guru, but I wonder if it would be possible to add the []
with CSS... Otherwise, I kind of like them both being there. Compare it
to a Fossil that does not have it:
http://fossil.bradfords.org:8081/setup_uedit?id=2
Thoughts?
Andy
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Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privileges subscripts.
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Good suggestion. I think I like [R] and it looks quite nice with both the CSS and the []: http://fossil.bradfords.org:8080/setup_uedit?id=2 I'm not CSS guru, but I wonder if it would be possible to add the [] with CSS... With CSS3 it is possible, but that eliminates a wide range of older browsers, as well as text-based ones (which was what i was mainly thinking about with this suggestion, as those don't support CSS-based spacing, either). Otherwise, I kind of like them both being there. Compare it to a Fossil that does not have it: http://fossil.bradfords.org:8081/setup_uedit?id=2 The first one is much nicer/cleaner. How about we change the [R] from black to... something else? We've used all the primary colors already, though. With the braces in place, subscripting might not even be necessary. Just tried it in Chrome by changing a SUB to a SPAN. The SUB looks marginally better, IMO. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privileges subscripts.
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 09:22:38 +0200, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: Good suggestion. I think I like [R] and it looks quite nice with both the CSS and the []: http://fossil.bradfords.org:8080/setup_uedit?id=2 I'm not CSS guru, but I wonder if it would be possible to add the [] with CSS... With CSS3 it is possible, but that eliminates a wide range of older browsers, as well as text-based ones (which was what i was mainly thinking about with this suggestion, as those don't support CSS-based spacing, either). Otherwise, I kind of like them both being there. Compare it to a Fossil that does not have it: http://fossil.bradfords.org:8081/setup_uedit?id=2 The first one is much nicer/cleaner. How about we change the [R] from black to... something else? We've used all the primary colors already, though. With the braces in place, subscripting might not even be necessary. Just tried it in Chrome by changing a SUB to a SPAN. The SUB looks marginally better, IMO. +1 -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privileges subscripts.
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 10:01 AM, j. v. d. hoff veedeeh...@googlemail.com wrote: With the braces in place, subscripting might not even be necessary. Just tried it in Chrome by changing a SUB to a SPAN. The SUB looks marginally better, IMO. +1 Another potential tweak, though i'm not sure if it's an improvement or not: span.ueditInheritDeveloper and friends could use: font-family: monospace; still trying to decide if that is more readable, though. Not yet convinced. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privileges subscripts.
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Andy Bradford amb-fos...@bradfords.org wrote: http://fossil.bradfords.org:8080/setup_uedit?id=2 Not sure if this is a bug or not, but the [A] subscript isn't used anywhere. If it truly is not needed, we could re-use blue for the [R] subscript. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Enable Download links for anonymous users?
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Andy Bradford amb-sendok-1414389550.ggndfjdanmbbjnjdo...@bradfords.org wrote: Have you enabled it for the nobody user? No! That did it. I somehow did not notice the nobody user. Thank you for your patience. - joe -- It is always best to think of reality as perfectly normal. Since the beginning, not one unusual thing has ever happened. - Less Wrong ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privilegessubscripts.
Stephan Beal wrote: Not sure if this is a bug or not, but the [A] subscript isn't used anywhere. I see it used here locally for the privileges inherited by anonymous? I don't want to hijack this thread; however, I would like to make a feature request while we are improving the user privilege screen: When a privilege checkbox is checked/unchecked, it would be nice to have a read-only textbox showing what the new privilege string will be, e.g.: Reader + Developer == uv (in the read-only textbox) This would require some JavaScript; however, I'm not confident in my ability to write JavaScript portable enough to work on most browsers. -- Joe Mistachkin ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privilegessubscripts.
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Joe Mistachkin sql...@mistachkin.com wrote: I see it used here locally for the privileges inherited by anonymous? Ah, good. It might be a combination of this particular setup/user which is hiding it from me. When a privilege checkbox is checked/unchecked, it would be nice to have a read-only textbox showing what the new privilege string will be, e.g.: Reader + Developer == uv (in the read-only textbox) That's doable - we just need to associate the perms letter with each checkbox, and each time one is updated, create a string from the selected ones. With jQuery, this type of thing is practically a one-liner, without it, probably a 20-liner. But nonetheless not difficult. Tonight is movie night, and tomorrow i'm out of town for the day, but i've added this to my TODOs. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privileges subscripts.
Thus said Stephan Beal on Sat, 27 Sep 2014 10:16:23 +0200: Not sure if this is a bug or not, but the [A] subscript isn't used anywhere. It is used, just not on the Anonymous user: http://fossil.bradfords.org:8080/setup_uedit?id=4 This is perhaps because while looking at the Anonymous user, you have the checkboxes... Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 40005426e486 ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privileges subscripts.
Thus said Stephan Beal on Sat, 27 Sep 2014 10:02:50 +0200: font-family: monospace; still trying to decide if that is more readable, though. Not yet convinced. I tried it and I didn't think it improved anything, and in fact, it made it slightly more difficult to read the character (at least for me). So, any concensus on what it should be? Is this it, or something else? http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/a6e8e7004d4e53025c592c5ab391386a39941edf Thanks, Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 40005426ef7b ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privileges subscripts.
On Saturday 27 Sep 2014 11:09:44 Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said Stephan Beal on Sat, 27 Sep 2014 10:02:50 +0200: font-family: monospace; still trying to decide if that is more readable, though. Not yet convinced. I tried it and I didn't think it improved anything, and in fact, it made it slightly more difficult to read the character (at least for me). So, any concensus on what it should be? Is this it, or something else? http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/a6e8e7004d4e53025c592c5ab391386a39 941edf The whole problem with that view for me is that the font is a lot smaller than unifed view, which I prefer and fine more readable on the whole anyway. Roy ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privilegessubscripts.
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: When a privilege checkbox is checked/unchecked, it would be nice to have a read-only textbox showing what the new privilege string will be, e.g.: Reader + Developer == uv (in the read-only textbox) ...not difficult. Tonight is movie night, and tomorrow i'm out of town for the day, but i've added this to my TODOs. Movie's over... Please try this out: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/timeline?r=inherit-priv-mark-sub Not the most efficient solution, but it should do for any relatively recent (early-21st-century) browser. What it doesn't do is calculate _derived_ permissions: it only shows the letters you have explicitly checked, e.g. uv in the above example. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ http://gplus.to/sgbeal Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do. -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inherited privilegessubscripts.
Thus said Stephan Beal on Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:30:38 +0200: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/timeline?r=inherit-priv-mark-sub Not the most efficient solution, but it should do for any relatively recent (early-21st-century) browser. Works for me on Firefox. Andy -- TAI64 timestamp: 4000542713b8 ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Proposed improvement to inheritedprivilegessubscripts.
Stephan Beal wrote: Please try this out: http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/timeline?r=inherit-priv-mark-sub Works great. I made a couple style tweaks, including adding some CSS and moving the new elements out one level. I'm not sure if my CSS is the best choice, please feel free to enhance the styling. -- Joe Mistachkin ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
