Re: [fossil-users] Horror story about git - Forever Alone

2014-09-26 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Matt Wellans estifo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I suspect fossil would slow down faster than git in that scenario but I'd
 also argue that because fossil is easier to understand

The memory costs for fossil (due to delta generation and R-card
calculation) would quickly explode here, because each individual commit
effectively has a new size which is a linear function of the current repo
size, growing with each commit. OTOH, the individual (delta) manifests
would all be very small because the number of changed files would be small
;).


 that scenario is a little less likely to happen. More importantly since
 fossil is usually used in a more close coupled way others on the team would
 have seen the problem very early and corrected it.  With git it takes
 effort to be connected, but with fossil it takes concious effort to be
 disconnected.

Richard has often used the phrase situational awareness for Fossil in
this regard, and it certainly applies here, i think. This is probably a
question of process, though, and is certainly not a git-specific problem.
The same could happen in fossil if people aren't keeping an eye on the
/timeline.

Sidebar: I work better alone should have been an immediate red flag for
them, as that particular wording implies (to me), I don't _like_ working
with others, which is an absolute no-no for effective projects/teams. It's
Dan's (from the article) fault (partially, at least) for allowing that
excuse to win out for so long. OTOH, the wording, I have no problems
working alone, (or similar) implies a different mindset which will not
necessarily pose a risk for the project.

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Re: [fossil-users] Horror story about git - Forever Alone

2014-09-26 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 25/09/14 13:18, Matt Wellans wrote:
 I suspect fossil would slow down faster than git in that scenario but I'd 
 also argue that because fossil is easier to understand that scenario is a 
 little less likely to happen.

   Let's all be honest here; this a unique case where you'd _want_ it to
slow down faster than git.  The tool shouldn't encourage misuse.  If the
story is true, they might have noticed the problem sooner.  :)

   Half kidding, of course.  Performance is always good, etc.

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Kind Regards,
Jan
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[fossil-users] Horror story about git - Forever Alone

2014-09-25 Thread Gour
Morning,

just read it today on Reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2hctgh/horror_story_about_git_forever_alone/

Article is at: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Forever-Alone.aspx

What about Fossil in the same scenario?


Sincerely,
Gour

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From wherever the mind wanders due to its flickering and unsteady 
nature, one must certainly withdraw it and bring it back under 
the control of the self.


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Re: [fossil-users] Horror story about git - Forever Alone

2014-09-25 Thread Martin S. Weber
On 2014-09-25 08:44:04, Gour wrote:
 Morning,
 
 just read it today on Reddit:
 
 http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2hctgh/horror_story_about_git_forever_alone/
 
 Article is at: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Forever-Alone.aspx
 
 What about Fossil in the same scenario?
 
 

What's supposed to happen? The same thing. If you keep committing a binary
file, changing it completely between each checkin, the repo's gonna become a fat
thing. As you asked for it.

This is in no way IMHO a GIT horror story. It's just a mild case of 
PEBKAC (who ended up quitting anyways), i.e., HR fckup.

Regards,
-Martin
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