[fossil-users] TortoiseFossil to BSD license

2013-01-31 Thread Edward Blake
Hello all,

I was wondering how important it would be to have TortoiseFossil BSD-licensed?

Right now I stuck a GPL license as a path of least resistance simply because 
all the other Tortoise are GPL. I've noticed since that Veracity's is Apache 
licensed so I figure why not make this permissively licensed as well. Currently 
I can go either way, I believe, since it is so far written from scratch, but 
BSD and permissive licenses looks to be the preferred license in the Fossil 
community.

There are parts of TortoiseFossil that are currently taken from the TortoiseSVN 
project which are:

TortoiseOverlays which its license allows permissively with acknowledgement, 
that I can do for this.

The menu icons (the ones in the popup menu, etc) seems to not allow for this as 
they're dual licensed GPL and the TortoiseSVN Icon License.
http://code.google.com/p/tortoisesvn/source/browse/trunk/src/Resources/license.txt?spec=svn23734&r=22442

My reading of the icon license is that only subversion clients can use the 
icons unless they are GPL so its pretty likely I'll need to look around for 
separate icons.

And then there is the "Charlie" turtle which I'll have to find out more about.


Thanks,
Edward Blake

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Re: [fossil-users] TortoiseFossil to BSD license

2013-01-31 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Edward Blake
wrote:

> Right now I stuck a GPL license as a path of least resistance simply
> because all the other Tortoise are GPL. I've noticed since that Veracity's
> is Apache licensed so I figure why not make this permissively licensed as
> well. Currently I can go either way, I believe, since it is so far written
> from scratch, but BSD and permissive licenses looks to be the preferred
> license in the Fossil community.
>

My 0.02 Euros: in my experience people don't tend to get too riled up about
specific licenses for _apps_ (provided the license in question is "open"),
but do tend to get religious about them over _libraries_. For example, i
can't imagine there would be a split in the fossil community if it suddenly
went GPL (whereas there would be a huge split if sqlite3, being a
widespread library, did that).

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Re: [fossil-users] TortoiseFossil to BSD license

2013-01-31 Thread Richard Hipp
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Stephan Beal  wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Edward Blake  > wrote:
>
>> Right now I stuck a GPL license as a path of least resistance simply
>> because all the other Tortoise are GPL. I've noticed since that Veracity's
>> is Apache licensed so I figure why not make this permissively licensed as
>> well. Currently I can go either way, I believe, since it is so far written
>> from scratch, but BSD and permissive licenses looks to be the preferred
>> license in the Fossil community.
>>
>
> My 0.02 Euros: in my experience people don't tend to get too riled up
> about specific licenses for _apps_ (provided the license in question is
> "open"), but do tend to get religious about them over _libraries_. For
> example, i can't imagine there would be a split in the fossil community if
> it suddenly went GPL (whereas there would be a huge split if sqlite3, being
> a widespread library, did that).
>

Fossil *was* GPL before you came on the scene, Stephen.  But there was
pushback on this, and so I tracked down all the contributors, got each one
to sign copyright releases (or in the cases where I could track them down,
removed their contributions) and converted Fossil over to BSD.

BSD seems to cause fewer problems than GPL with corporate lawyers.

The problem with BSD is that you really should get a signed form from each
contributor stating that their contribution is BSD.  This is automatic with
GPL, since releasing your contributions under a compatible license is a
prerequisite for viewing the code in GPL.  This makes GPL great for a
highly collaborative environment, with lots of contributors.  BSD is more
permissive (less burdensome) for readers, but that makes it a little
tougher for writers since they now have to send in some paperwork.  As
readers tend to outnumber writers by a high multiple, I tend to go with the
license that is easiest on readers:  BSD.  But opinions vary on this.


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Re: [fossil-users] TortoiseFossil to BSD license

2013-02-06 Thread Ruediger Haertel
Am Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2013, 13:28:50 schrieb Edward Blake:
> Hello all,
> 
> I was wondering how important it would be to have TortoiseFossil
> BSD-licensed?
> 
> Right now I stuck a GPL license as a path of least resistance simply because
> all the other Tortoise are GPL. I've noticed since that Veracity's is
> Apache licensed so I figure why not make this permissively licensed as
> well. Currently I can go either way, I believe, since it is so far written
> from scratch, but BSD and permissive licenses looks to be the preferred
> license in the Fossil community.
> 
> There are parts of TortoiseFossil that are currently taken from the
> TortoiseSVN project which are:
> 
> TortoiseOverlays which its license allows permissively with acknowledgement,
> that I can do for this.
> 
> The menu icons (the ones in the popup menu, etc) seems to not allow for this
> as they're dual licensed GPL and the TortoiseSVN Icon License.
> http://code.google.com/p/tortoisesvn/source/browse/trunk/src/Resources/lice
> nse.txt?spec=svn23734&r=22442
> 
> My reading of the icon license is that only subversion clients can use the
> icons unless they are GPL so its pretty likely I'll need to look around for
> separate icons.
> 
> And then there is the "Charlie" turtle which I'll have to find out more
> about.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Edward Blake
> 
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Hello Edward,

can you send me precompiled tortoise-fossil?

Regards
Rüdiger
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Re: [fossil-users] TortoiseFossil to BSD license

2013-02-08 Thread Edward Blake
Hi Rüdiger,

I'll try to get an alpha out soon after I've improved the caching, it will need 
to be installed manually though unless I find time to make an installer by then.

Thanks,
Edward Blake

--- r_haer...@gmx.de wrote:

Hello Edward,

can you send me precompiled tortoise-fossil?

Regards
Rüdiger


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