Re: [fossil-users] Fossil Captchas

2017-03-26 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Richard Hipp  wrote:

> I am also now reminded that there is an option on the Setup/Access
> page that adds a button to the CAPTCHA that completes the captcha
> automatically.  That would nicely facility access via screen readers.
>

i was about to say the same thing (Admin ==> Setup ==> auto-captcha), but
it appears to have been broken. On my recently-update site it's not
working, anyway (the button doesn't appear). i haven't looked into why (i'm
still limited to how much i can operate a keyboard), but speculate that it
"might" have been purposely removed, as bots can mostly understand
JavaScript nowadays.

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil Captchas

2017-03-26 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/26/17, Damien Sykes-Lindley  wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I think the anonymous password shows itself
> as a captcha. The following quote from the antibot article would seem to
> confirm this:
>
> "The "anonymous" user is also available for humans who do not wish to
> identify themselves. The difference is that "anonymous" requires a login
> (using a password supplied via a CAPTCHA)"

Hmm...  I suppose you do have to enter the CAPTCHA if you want to log
in as anonymous.  My point is, though, that sites like Fossil and
SQLite are configured such that anonymous log-in is not required.

I am also now reminded that there is an option on the Setup/Access
page that adds a button to the CAPTCHA that completes the captcha
automatically.  That would nicely facility access via screen readers.

>
> Below that there are several lines of underscores and bars, I'm assuming
> this is an ascii-based captcha or some other method of obscurity, since I
> can't find any clear 8-digit hexadecimal sequence.

Correct.  The CAPTCHA is an ascii-art rendering of the 8-digit hex key.

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil Captchas

2017-03-26 Thread Damien Sykes-Lindley

Hi Richard,
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I think the anonymous password shows itself 
as a captcha. The following quote from the antibot article would seem to 
confirm this:


"The "anonymous" user is also available for humans who do not wish to 
identify themselves. The difference is that "anonymous" requires a login 
(using a password supplied via a CAPTCHA)"


The login page states:
"Visitors may enter anonymous as the user-ID with the 8-character 
hexadecimal password shown below:"


Below that there are several lines of underscores and bars, I'm assuming 
this is an ascii-based captcha or some other method of obscurity, since I 
can't find any clear 8-digit hexadecimal sequence.

Cheers.
Damien.
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From: Richard Hipp

Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 7:38 PM
To: Fossil SCM user's discussion
Subject: Re: [fossil-users] Fossil Captchas

On 3/26/17, Damien Sykes-Lindley  wrote:

Hi there,
Is there any chance an option can be added in Fossil whereby, when/where a
captcha is required, the task is to answer a question instead?



That could be done, in theory, but augmenting a few routines in the
captcha.c source file.  Consider sending in patches.

But, I thought the design of Fossil had moved past the need for
captchas for robot control.  See
http://localhost:591/fossil/doc/trunk/www/antibot.wiki for details.  I
just now logged off and went surfing about on the canonical Fossil
repo and did not find any pages requesting a captcha.  Do you have an
example that I have overlooked?
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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil Captchas

2017-03-26 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/26/17, Damien Sykes-Lindley  wrote:
> Hi there,
> Is there any chance an option can be added in Fossil whereby, when/where a
> captcha is required, the task is to answer a question instead?


That could be done, in theory, but augmenting a few routines in the
captcha.c source file.  Consider sending in patches.

But, I thought the design of Fossil had moved past the need for
captchas for robot control.  See
http://localhost:591/fossil/doc/trunk/www/antibot.wiki for details.  I
just now logged off and went surfing about on the canonical Fossil
repo and did not find any pages requesting a captcha.  Do you have an
example that I have overlooked?
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d...@sqlite.org
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