Re: [fossil-users] new fossil docs: is the wiki or embedded docs preferred?

2011-09-16 Thread Dmitry Chestnykh
On Sep 16, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Paul Ruizendaal wrote:

> Hmmm…
> 
> If Fossil was created today, with the knowledge of today, would it still have 
> wiki pages? Would it make Fossil a simpler, but equally powerful tool if it 
> just had (web editable) embedded documentation?

Embedded documentation is versioned along with files, so no, I don't think it 
would be better.
I, for one, wouldn't want to frequently merge my working copy with changes to 
embedded docs made from web interface. Plus, this would create unwanted forks. 
Also, having a separate wiki allows for more granular access control.

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Re: [fossil-users] new fossil docs: is the wiki or embedded docs preferred?

2011-09-16 Thread Stephan Beal
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Paul Ruizendaal  wrote:

> Hmmm…
>
> If Fossil was created today, with the knowledge of today, would it still
> have wiki pages? Would it make Fossil a simpler, but equally powerful tool
> if it just had (web editable) embedded documentation?


Good question. When is started using fossil, two features really impressed
me: CGI and the wiki (because i document insane amounts). For me, at least,
it was one of the things that got me hooked.

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Re: [fossil-users] new fossil docs: is the wiki or embedded docs preferred?

2011-09-16 Thread Paul Ruizendaal
Hmmm…

If Fossil was created today, with the knowledge of today, would it still have 
wiki pages? Would it make Fossil a simpler, but equally powerful tool if it 
just had (web editable) embedded documentation?

Paul

On 15 Sep 2011, at 14:10 , Matt Welland wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Richard Hipp  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Stephan Beal  wrote:
> Hi, all,
> 
> When adding new docs (for the up-coming json bits), which is the currently 
> preferred approach: wiki or embedded docs ?
> 
> I've grown to prefer embedded docs, since they are tied to specific versions 
> of the code, and hence you know exactly which version of the code the 
> documentation applies to.
> 
> In my own projects I've found this to be true also but then we sorely miss 
> the ability to make quick edits which is one of the best things about the 
> Wiki. Is it technically feasible to implement editing and checking in of 
> controlled files from the web interface? It imagine it would require another 
> permissions flag and would be a lot of work but if some enterprising fossil 
> hacker decided to implement it I for one would be thrilled :)
>  

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Re: [fossil-users] new fossil docs: is the wiki or embedded docs preferred?

2011-09-15 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Stephan Beal  wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Matt Welland  wrote:
>
>> ...checking in of controlled files from the web interface? It imagine it
>> would require
>>
>
> Just FYI: one of the goals of the JSON API is saving wiki pages (and
>

Sorry, hit send too soon...

In theory we could also perform commits over the JSON interface, at least
for text files (things which can be JSONified), but implementing that is way
down the list of TODOs.

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Re: [fossil-users] new fossil docs: is the wiki or embedded docs preferred?

2011-09-15 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Matt Welland  wrote:

> In my own projects I've found this to be true also but then we sorely miss
> the ability to make quick edits which is one of the best things about the
> Wiki. Is it technically feasible to implement editing and checking in of
> controlled files from the web interface? It imagine it would require
>

Just FYI: one of the goals of the JSON API is saving wiki pages (and that's
one of my own personal favourite use cases for the JSON bits, so it'll
eventually get done). We wouldn't need special permissions for that
implementation, as we would simply use fossil's existing perms.

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Re: [fossil-users] new fossil docs: is the wiki or embedded docs preferred?

2011-09-15 Thread Matt Welland
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Richard Hipp  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Stephan Beal wrote:
>
>> Hi, all,
>>
>> When adding new docs (for the up-coming json bits), which is the currently
>> preferred approach: wiki or embedded docs ?
>>
>
> I've grown to prefer embedded docs, since they are tied to specific
> versions of the code, and hence you know exactly which version of the code
> the documentation applies to.
>

In my own projects I've found this to be true also but then we sorely miss
the ability to make quick edits which is one of the best things about the
Wiki. Is it technically feasible to implement editing and checking in of
controlled files from the web interface? It imagine it would require another
permissions flag and would be a lot of work but if some enterprising fossil
hacker decided to implement it I for one would be thrilled :)


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Re: [fossil-users] new fossil docs: is the wiki or embedded docs preferred?

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Hipp
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Stephan Beal  wrote:

> Hi, all,
>
> When adding new docs (for the up-coming json bits), which is the currently
> preferred approach: wiki or embedded docs ?
>

I've grown to prefer embedded docs, since they are tied to specific versions
of the code, and hence you know exactly which version of the code the
documentation applies to.


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