Re: [Foundation-l] What to do with moribund languages?

2009-01-05 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2009/1/5 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
 3. A language with ~1-10M speakers from Sub-Saharan Africa. Such
 language probably has a written form made by some missionaries during
 the past centuries (or a very similar language has a written form
 which may be used). However, the most of the population probably don't
 know to read and write. This is a kind of task where WMF should be
 connected with other global, regional or local educational
 initiatives. Such language should get all projects, but at the time
 when they are able to handle that. Preservation tasks may be useful,
 too.

I agree with all your points from this email, but especially with this one.

-- 
Amir Elisha Aharoni

heb: http://haharoni.wordpress.com | eng: http://aharoni.wordpress.com
cat: http://aprenent.wordpress.com | rus: http://amire80.livejournal.com

We're living in pieces,
 I want to live in peace. - T. Moore

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[Foundation-l] Victims pf Soviet... Memorial

2009-01-05 Thread Jon
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Folks,

I know we heard some opinions on that project proposal, I just want to
remind everyone who did comment on the list, to go make it count by
commenting at the actual proposal page on Meta.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Victims_of_Soviet_Repressions_Memorial

Very respectfully,

Jon-
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Re: [Foundation-l] Ombudsman commission

2009-01-05 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Michael Snow wrote:
 Eia wrote:
   
 Hi all,

 A few days ago, the term for the ombudsman commission expired.
 Unfortunately, I missed an announcement about the commission for 2009. Could
 someone clarify who will be the 2009 members, and where the announcement
 (will be/is) made?
   
 
 We're currently reevaluating the ombudsman commission as part of a 
 larger rethinking of the committee system that was established some 
 years ago, before the foundation had much in the way of staff or 
 structure. This will be a significant topic in our board meeting next 
 week, and I hope we can provide more information after the meeting.

 In the meantime, if anyone would like to offer feedback, I would be very 
 happy to hear it. In particular, ideas or suggestions on what our needs 
 are and how best to satisfy them. I'm less interested in random 
 complaints about this or that committee, I think we're already aware of 
 most of the concerns that have been raised, although anyone who thinks 
 they know of a problem nobody has ever mentioned before is welcome to 
 contact me off-list. I'm more interested in analysis of how our 
 committees work, what their strengths and limitations are, what can be 
 reasonably expected of them, and how we should fill in the gaps.

   


I took a trip down memory lane, having a vague recollection
that I had in fact been the first to suggest a committee
structure in my candidateship platform in the very first
elections to the board of trustees in 2004. I found that
at least Anthere had made some mention of work groups
in her candidate platform (and no, I didn't bother digging
up which of us was the first to edit that into our candidate
statement). I did find that the way I formulated my thoughts
then, has stood the test of time remarkably well (in terms of
reflecting the general manner I still think about these things).

So without further ado, this is what I said then:

quote
If other trustees agree; appointing /working groups/ of
qualified people to prepare workable choises (in consultation
with both the board of trustees and the users of the various
Wikimedia projects) for policies and institutions that the
users may adopt through either /consensus acclamation/
or if neccessary, /qualified majority voting/.

These working groups consisting of 3 to 5 /appointed
members/ and 1 to 3 trustees from the board of trustees.

Suggested (incomplete) list of working groups:

* /Copyright and intellectual property licencing policies./
* /Member association structures and bylaws./
* /User community institutions and policies./
* /Crossproject integration./
* /Steering committee./ (This including the whole Board of trustees
  and a number of appointed members determined by the Board.)


/quote

I infact have very little of consequence to add to
these thoughts I then had, before there ever was
a board of trustees. The starkest contrast
between this and the current system is that
all board members are not *inside* what is
perhaps the semi-equivalent of the Steering
committee in my proposal. That is to say,
the advisory committee does not contain
all of the board of trustees as its members.


Yours,

Jussi-Ville Heiskanen




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Re: [Foundation-l] Don't know how linked we still are with wikia...

2009-01-05 Thread Brion Vibber
On 1/4/09 5:19 PM, effe iets anders wrote:
 But was that connection close enough (even in the old days) to
 complain here about copyright violations there? I think Tim had a good
 point here :P

*nod*

The Wikimedia Foundation is not, and has never been, involved with Wikia 
in a capacity which would make foundation-l an appropriate place to 
report a complaint about content on one of Wikia's thousands of 
user-created wiki sites. You should contact Wikia's admins directly if 
you want such a problem taken care of.

If one is instead making the argument that Wikimedia should distance 
itself from a wiki hosting company due to offense taken at user-created 
content on a site hosted by that company, well that's probably not the 
best argument but I guess you can freely make it here. :)


The relationship between WMF and Wikia is basically on the order of 
some of the same people are involved [many fewer now than before], 
much of the same technology is involved [still true], and because of 
the above, occasionally both companies find it convenient to share 
resources [mainly our techs talk to each other, and sometimes we'll 
split spare capacity on some physical resource at a fair market rate].

This is not a particularly closer relationship than we have with other 
companies and organizations in the fields of wikis and open 
source/content stuff.

-- brion

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[Foundation-l] Wikimedia meets goal

2009-01-05 Thread Jon
Good job!

http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090102/ap_on_hi_te/wikipedia_fundraising

Jon

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[Foundation-l] (no subject)

2009-01-05 Thread Shannon Miller
Creating a universal online language should include cross references like music 
and photography.

Is it possible to provide links within wiki pages written in moribund languages 
to established blog topics within whichever given country the user wishes to 
view?



  
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[Foundation-l] Call for Volunteers, Wikimania scholarship committees

2009-01-05 Thread Cary Bass
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Hello everyone!

Cross posting this to several lists, forgive me if you get it a number
of times.

Wikimania 2009 requires will be requiring a number of volunteers to
handle the scholarship applications.  Details of the Volunteer
commitments are at
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Volunteering:Wikimania_scholarship_reviewer
and
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Volunteering:Wikimania_scholarship_technical_coordinator

Any questions may be presented to me directly at my email address.

Cary Bass
Volunteer Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Foundation-l] Don't know how linked we still are with wikia...

2009-01-05 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Brion Vibber wrote:
 The relationship between WMF and Wikia is basically on the order of 
 some of the same people are involved [many fewer now than before], 
 much of the same technology is involved [still true], and because of 
 the above, occasionally both companies find it convenient to share 
 resources [mainly our techs talk to each other, and sometimes we'll 
 split spare capacity on some physical resource at a fair market rate].

 This is not a particularly closer relationship than we have with other 
 companies and organizations in the fields of wikis and open 
 source/content stuff.

 -- brion

   

That is accurate in the absolute, but misleading in fact.

The relationship is markedly different from the other
companies and organizations in the fields of wikis and
open source/content stuff; in that many (I certainly hope
not most) of the people at Wikia used to be integral and
even core people at wikipedia - and no, I won't name
names. Nuff said.


Yours,

Jussi-Ville Heiskanen


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