Re: [Foundation-l] What to do with moribund languages?
2009/1/5 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com: 3. A language with ~1-10M speakers from Sub-Saharan Africa. Such language probably has a written form made by some missionaries during the past centuries (or a very similar language has a written form which may be used). However, the most of the population probably don't know to read and write. This is a kind of task where WMF should be connected with other global, regional or local educational initiatives. Such language should get all projects, but at the time when they are able to handle that. Preservation tasks may be useful, too. I agree with all your points from this email, but especially with this one. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni heb: http://haharoni.wordpress.com | eng: http://aharoni.wordpress.com cat: http://aprenent.wordpress.com | rus: http://amire80.livejournal.com We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace. - T. Moore ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Victims pf Soviet... Memorial
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Folks, I know we heard some opinions on that project proposal, I just want to remind everyone who did comment on the list, to go make it count by commenting at the actual proposal page on Meta. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Victims_of_Soviet_Repressions_Memorial Very respectfully, Jon- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklh7s4ACgkQ6+ro8Pm1AtU5DgCcDS8ZLKVARAI25GPNYXGp/dM2 WNAAoLNS9qDKxMau+dcCWD7OjKNJHK+X =uTtV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Ombudsman commission
Michael Snow wrote: Eia wrote: Hi all, A few days ago, the term for the ombudsman commission expired. Unfortunately, I missed an announcement about the commission for 2009. Could someone clarify who will be the 2009 members, and where the announcement (will be/is) made? We're currently reevaluating the ombudsman commission as part of a larger rethinking of the committee system that was established some years ago, before the foundation had much in the way of staff or structure. This will be a significant topic in our board meeting next week, and I hope we can provide more information after the meeting. In the meantime, if anyone would like to offer feedback, I would be very happy to hear it. In particular, ideas or suggestions on what our needs are and how best to satisfy them. I'm less interested in random complaints about this or that committee, I think we're already aware of most of the concerns that have been raised, although anyone who thinks they know of a problem nobody has ever mentioned before is welcome to contact me off-list. I'm more interested in analysis of how our committees work, what their strengths and limitations are, what can be reasonably expected of them, and how we should fill in the gaps. I took a trip down memory lane, having a vague recollection that I had in fact been the first to suggest a committee structure in my candidateship platform in the very first elections to the board of trustees in 2004. I found that at least Anthere had made some mention of work groups in her candidate platform (and no, I didn't bother digging up which of us was the first to edit that into our candidate statement). I did find that the way I formulated my thoughts then, has stood the test of time remarkably well (in terms of reflecting the general manner I still think about these things). So without further ado, this is what I said then: quote If other trustees agree; appointing /working groups/ of qualified people to prepare workable choises (in consultation with both the board of trustees and the users of the various Wikimedia projects) for policies and institutions that the users may adopt through either /consensus acclamation/ or if neccessary, /qualified majority voting/. These working groups consisting of 3 to 5 /appointed members/ and 1 to 3 trustees from the board of trustees. Suggested (incomplete) list of working groups: * /Copyright and intellectual property licencing policies./ * /Member association structures and bylaws./ * /User community institutions and policies./ * /Crossproject integration./ * /Steering committee./ (This including the whole Board of trustees and a number of appointed members determined by the Board.) /quote I infact have very little of consequence to add to these thoughts I then had, before there ever was a board of trustees. The starkest contrast between this and the current system is that all board members are not *inside* what is perhaps the semi-equivalent of the Steering committee in my proposal. That is to say, the advisory committee does not contain all of the board of trustees as its members. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Don't know how linked we still are with wikia...
On 1/4/09 5:19 PM, effe iets anders wrote: But was that connection close enough (even in the old days) to complain here about copyright violations there? I think Tim had a good point here :P *nod* The Wikimedia Foundation is not, and has never been, involved with Wikia in a capacity which would make foundation-l an appropriate place to report a complaint about content on one of Wikia's thousands of user-created wiki sites. You should contact Wikia's admins directly if you want such a problem taken care of. If one is instead making the argument that Wikimedia should distance itself from a wiki hosting company due to offense taken at user-created content on a site hosted by that company, well that's probably not the best argument but I guess you can freely make it here. :) The relationship between WMF and Wikia is basically on the order of some of the same people are involved [many fewer now than before], much of the same technology is involved [still true], and because of the above, occasionally both companies find it convenient to share resources [mainly our techs talk to each other, and sometimes we'll split spare capacity on some physical resource at a fair market rate]. This is not a particularly closer relationship than we have with other companies and organizations in the fields of wikis and open source/content stuff. -- brion ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Wikimedia meets goal
Good job! http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090102/ap_on_hi_te/wikipedia_fundraising Jon ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] (no subject)
Creating a universal online language should include cross references like music and photography. Is it possible to provide links within wiki pages written in moribund languages to established blog topics within whichever given country the user wishes to view? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Call for Volunteers, Wikimania scholarship committees
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone! Cross posting this to several lists, forgive me if you get it a number of times. Wikimania 2009 requires will be requiring a number of volunteers to handle the scholarship applications. Details of the Volunteer commitments are at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Volunteering:Wikimania_scholarship_reviewer and http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Volunteering:Wikimania_scholarship_technical_coordinator Any questions may be presented to me directly at my email address. Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJYqQSyQg4JSymDYkRAtCuAJ99k8YC2FDklSf6I0YNtUkmbHnP5ACgi/Dm TUxbWYqi/K9OXtZdO5Wd2hM= =62dZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Don't know how linked we still are with wikia...
Brion Vibber wrote: The relationship between WMF and Wikia is basically on the order of some of the same people are involved [many fewer now than before], much of the same technology is involved [still true], and because of the above, occasionally both companies find it convenient to share resources [mainly our techs talk to each other, and sometimes we'll split spare capacity on some physical resource at a fair market rate]. This is not a particularly closer relationship than we have with other companies and organizations in the fields of wikis and open source/content stuff. -- brion That is accurate in the absolute, but misleading in fact. The relationship is markedly different from the other companies and organizations in the fields of wikis and open source/content stuff; in that many (I certainly hope not most) of the people at Wikia used to be integral and even core people at wikipedia - and no, I won't name names. Nuff said. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l