[Foundation-l] Office hours next Friday, December 11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all! Next Thursday's office hours will feature Frank Schulenberg, the Wikimedia Foundation's Head of Public Outreach. If you don't know Frank you can learn all about him at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Frank_Schulenburg. Office hours on Friday are from 2330 to 0030 UTC (3:30 PM - 4:30 PM PST). If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat using a web browser: First is using the Wikizine chat gateway at http://chatwikizine.memebot.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi. Type a nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and #wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join. Also, you can access Freenode by going to http://webchat.freenode.net/, typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as the channel. You may be prompted to click through a security warning. It should be all right. Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other relevant email lists you happen to be on. - -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksf+UgACgkQyQg4JSymDYnTqgCdHYQde2Ihm+BhaQEOnteMPGbE /AQAoMPzapFkeimtSijqas9hDpLDvpc7 =4HdT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours next Friday, December 11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I hope my inability to send these out without one single mistake is amply entertaining. The day is Friday (as indicated in the subject and the second paragraph), not Thursday (as carelessly left in the first line). Cary Cary Bass wrote: Hello all! Next Thursday's office hours will feature Frank Schulenberg, the Wikimedia Foundation's Head of Public Outreach. If you don't know Frank you can learn all about him at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Frank_Schulenburg. Office hours on Friday are from 2330 to 0030 UTC (3:30 PM - 4:30 PM PST). If you do not have an IRC client, there are two ways you can come chat using a web browser: First is using the Wikizine chat gateway at http://chatwikizine.memebot.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi. Type a nickname, select irc.freenode.net from the top menu and #wikimedia-office from the following menu, then login to join. Also, you can access Freenode by going to http://webchat.freenode.net/, typing in the nickname of your choice and choosing wikimedia-office as the channel. You may be prompted to click through a security warning. It should be all right. Please feel free to forward (and translate!) this email to any other relevant email lists you happen to be on. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksgAgwACgkQyQg4JSymDYkreACgzoSw3Y3K+qM+rgU6c0/+flJG 3ggAoOUVXpd3/f5runSOeNXVWopEDU73 =67cZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees
I believe that a verified account system for GLAMs specifically doing encyclopedic work (not for businesses, etc) would not be too difficult to work out, and would be well worth any such effort. Such systems, though nothing is 100%, have worked quite well for many other websites. Thanks, Pharos On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, When they are blocked like it happened with the Tropenmuseum, I will ask the person who did this to reconsider... There has to be a reason for a block and these organisations do what they do and they do it very well. The notion that a block on sight is always good is not reasonable. Thanks, GerardM 2009/12/5 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I want to give you two different group / company accounts that I think are valuable.. Tropenmuseum... If you do not know about it, read the Tropenmuseum article on Commons Calcey - a company from Sri Lanka has adopted the localisation of the Sinhala language. We are really grateful for their work. There are more great examples of companies, groups that make a difference ... I would like to know more good examples.. You say that now, but what happens when they are blocked. Or maybe they say something that sounds like a legal threat; are they speaking for the company? -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees
The spirit of the one person per account policy was to prevent people from disclaiming responsibility by claiming another person did it. I feel that allowing accounts for GLAMs would not violate the intent of the policy, but suggest that the account be required to verify, maintain a valid email and provide the Foundation with the identities of the authorized users. From: Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 4:16:54 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees I believe that a verified account system for GLAMs specifically doing encyclopedic work (not for businesses, etc) would not be too difficult to work out, and would be well worth any such effort. Such systems, though nothing is 100%, have worked quite well for many other websites. Thanks, Pharos On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, When they are blocked like it happened with the Tropenmuseum, I will ask the person who did this to reconsider... There has to be a reason for a block and these organisations do what they do and they do it very well. The notion that a block on sight is always good is not reasonable. Thanks, GerardM 2009/12/5 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I want to give you two different group / company accounts that I think are valuable.. Tropenmuseum... If you do not know about it, read the Tropenmuseum article on Commons Calcey - a company from Sri Lanka has adopted the localisation of the Sinhala language. We are really grateful for their work. There are more great examples of companies, groups that make a difference ... I would like to know more good examples.. You say that now, but what happens when they are blocked. Or maybe they say something that sounds like a legal threat; are they speaking for the company? -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Status of 2009 Fundraiser Survey
Still no reply here, nor on the Meta Wikimedia page? It's Wednesday. That was Friday. Perhaps the official response is no comment, or maybe Rand Montoya is on vacation? Gregory Kohs On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com wrote: I am wondering if someone at the WMF (perhaps specifically Rand Montoya) could give us an update on the status of the 2009 Fundraiser Survey. I inquired about this at the appropriate Talk page, but over two weeks have passed without any reply: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Fundraising_2009/Surveydiff=1724334oldid=1585375 Personally, I applied about four or five hours of my time working on the sampling design and questionnaire content and construction for this effort. I realize that it is beyond hope that this will have fielded before most of this year's fundraising efforts have been executed (which is a shame, considering the hurry up timeline that was in place back in July 2009), but now I wonder -- will this ever be fielded? My impression is that an inordinate amount of time was dedicated to translating the survey into at least a handful of world languages, which I advised against, being that I knew it was a huge challenge to meet translation and proofreading needs before the annual fundraiser commenced. I hope it is realistic to at least field this survey in the Spring of 2010, so that its results may be analyzed and contribute to modifications (both tactical and strategic) for the 2010 fundraiser. Gregory Kohs ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees
Practically speaking, how would such a verification system work? Would it be a specific OTRS queue (similar to the way we get proof that a photo's copyright release is correct) or would it be an email to Cary at the WMF (similar to the way we make sure people with specific tools are over a certain age)? Or, would it be a different thing altogether (e.g. the verification process is via the local chapter who vouches for the GLAM)? -Liam [[witty lama]] wittylama.com/blog Peace, love metadata On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.comwrote: The spirit of the one person per account policy was to prevent people from disclaiming responsibility by claiming another person did it. I feel that allowing accounts for GLAMs would not violate the intent of the policy, but suggest that the account be required to verify, maintain a valid email and provide the Foundation with the identities of the authorized users. From: Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, December 9, 2009 4:16:54 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Assume Good Faith and Don't Bite Newbees I believe that a verified account system for GLAMs specifically doing encyclopedic work (not for businesses, etc) would not be too difficult to work out, and would be well worth any such effort. Such systems, though nothing is 100%, have worked quite well for many other websites. Thanks, Pharos On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, When they are blocked like it happened with the Tropenmuseum, I will ask the person who did this to reconsider... There has to be a reason for a block and these organisations do what they do and they do it very well. The notion that a block on sight is always good is not reasonable. Thanks, GerardM 2009/12/5 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I want to give you two different group / company accounts that I think are valuable.. Tropenmuseum... If you do not know about it, read the Tropenmuseum article on Commons Calcey - a company from Sri Lanka has adopted the localisation of the Sinhala language. We are really grateful for their work. There are more great examples of companies, groups that make a difference ... I would like to know more good examples.. You say that now, but what happens when they are blocked. Or maybe they say something that sounds like a legal threat; are they speaking for the company? -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
