Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey everyone! On Thursday, February 25, the Office Hour will once again be hosted by Mike Godwin, Legal counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation, who you can read about at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Mikegodwin Mike Godwin's excellent and should have his own TV show. And I really value the Office Hours idea, it's a great way for the community to interact with the WMF. I'd just like to make the point though, hoping not to come across as too critical, that Mike will have done office hours duty three times recently after today. It would be great if someone else can be persuaded to have a go for next time. I certainly have a few things I would like to ask which Mike would not be best placed to answer. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25
On 25 February 2010 02:47, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hey everyone! On Thursday, February 25, the Office Hour will once again be hosted by Mike Godwin, Legal counsel for the Wikimedia Foundation, who you can read about at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Mikegodwin Mike Godwin's excellent and should have his own TV show. And I really value the Office Hours idea, it's a great way for the community to interact with the WMF. I'd just like to make the point though, hoping not to come across as too critical, that Mike will have done office hours duty three times recently after today. It would be great if someone else can be persuaded to have a go for next time. I certainly have a few things I would like to ask which Mike would not be best placed to answer. I was there when Cary asked for someone to do it and Mike was the only volunteer. I suspect the rest of the staff think they are too boring and nobody would want to talk to them. If you suggest a specific person that you would be interested in asking questions of then Cary might stand a chance of getting them to agree to it. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25
On 25 February 2010 10:02, Huib! abi...@forgotten-beauty.com wrote: Hi, It could also be a idea to ask Danese Cooper to come by on IRC for a hour. But I would like it when Tim Starling would come by also... Yes he is always on IRC but almost always busy :) Give Danese a chance to settle in first! She hasn't had a chance to learn the answers yet. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bod Notbod wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I was there when Cary asked for someone to do it and Mike was the only volunteer. I suspect the rest of the staff think they are too boring and nobody would want to talk to them. If you suggest a specific person that you would be interested in asking questions of then Cary might stand a chance of getting them to agree to it. Oh, it's a shame if the staff don't feel there's much interest. The ones I've attended don't get many folk in terms of numbers but there always seems to be enough questions to keep an interesting discussion going for an hour. I'd like Tim Starling to do one; I have some questions about the impact of the Strategy process on Mediawiki. Sadly, because of a misunderstanding on my part, today's office hours were postponed until another to be decided date and time. As far as Tim is concerned, I'll ask him and tell him that there's some interest (if he doesn't see it here first!) - -- Cary Bass Volunteer Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuGuV0ACgkQyQg4JSymDYn3BACeNJ2zQjsGyDYSCuUvZGXYIuYx DDoAmwb7XAyhb2EALHranH+x2rJcUM51 =Im6I -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25
Hi, It could also be a idea to ask Danese Cooper to come by on IRC for a hour. But I would like it when Tim Starling would come by also... Yes he is always on IRC but almost always busy :) See ya. -- Huib Laurens Http://www.wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/user:Abigor ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I was there when Cary asked for someone to do it and Mike was the only volunteer. I suspect the rest of the staff think they are too boring and nobody would want to talk to them. If you suggest a specific person that you would be interested in asking questions of then Cary might stand a chance of getting them to agree to it. Oh, it's a shame if the staff don't feel there's much interest. The ones I've attended don't get many folk in terms of numbers but there always seems to be enough questions to keep an interesting discussion going for an hour. I'd like Tim Starling to do one; I have some questions about the impact of the Strategy process on Mediawiki. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25
Thomas Dalton schreef: On 25 February 2010 10:02, Huib! abi...@forgotten-beauty.com wrote: Hi, It could also be a idea to ask Danese Cooper to come by on IRC for a hour. But I would like it when Tim Starling would come by also... Yes he is always on IRC but almost always busy :) Give Danese a chance to settle in first! She hasn't had a chance to learn the answers yet. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.733 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2709 - datum van uitgifte: 02/25/10 08:34:00 Meeting the community is also a way to settle in. -- Huib Laurens Http://www.wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/user:Abigor ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Right to left support for Mobile MediaWiki
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 1. http://he.m.wikipedia.org/ already exists, A mobile interface for every single Wikipedia we have exists already, yes. (But some do not have real homepages, some are in English, etc.) but says Homepage Not Yet Configured The homepage bit shows up when we have a translation of the interface, but no defined home page. There are two ways to set up that home page, and Hampton explained them here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22637#c1 2. If i translate 25 messages to Hebrew, it will just work? Or do i need to open a Bugzilla ticket? Nope, I think Hampton updates the translations every week or so. (He does this automatically, a bugzilla ticket isn't needed.) 3. If it's just a matter of translating of translating 25 messages to Hebrew, where do i start? Gerard already linked to this, but it's http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Wikimedia_mobile Gerard, we really should have some page on Meta-Wiki outlining all of this... a step-by-step guide: How do I set up a mobile site for my project? There's already something here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile, I'll work on expanding that. -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Right to left support for Mobile MediaWiki
I finally took a look at this: it is most excellent. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: As always, we need your help to help people find their way to Wikipedia it does not take much to improve things for the mobile.. Thanks, GerardM PS languages like Malayalam, Swahili and Bengali shine with their newly localised interface Yes indeed. SJ ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25
what about having (for once) office hour with one or two board members? Perhaps the community selected members? I can imagine it would be interesting to have a chat about what the board is currently doing and up to. -- Lodewijk 2010/2/25 Huib! abi...@forgotten-beauty.com Thomas Dalton schreef: On 25 February 2010 10:02, Huib! abi...@forgotten-beauty.com wrote: Hi, It could also be a idea to ask Danese Cooper to come by on IRC for a hour. But I would like it when Tim Starling would come by also... Yes he is always on IRC but almost always busy :) Give Danese a chance to settle in first! She hasn't had a chance to learn the answers yet. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.733 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2709 - datum van uitgifte: 02/25/10 08:34:00 Meeting the community is also a way to settle in. -- Huib Laurens Http://www.wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/user:Abigor ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hour for Thursday, February 25
On 25 February 2010 16:17, effe iets anders effeietsand...@gmail.com wrote: what about having (for once) office hour with one or two board members? Perhaps the community selected members? I can imagine it would be interesting to have a chat about what the board is currently doing and up to. I suppose that is board hours rather than office hours, but it would be great. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Strategy n WMF Staff
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: I *think* it's almost inevitable that a side-effect of strat is that some volunteers will want to discuss ideas with WMF staff; it's acknowledged that the role of the WMF, of chapters and of volunteers overlap to some degree and while discussion may clarify this to some extent I think Strategy volunteers will be wanting to communicate with WMF staff more than they had done previously... I know I will. Are you talking about wanting to communicate with staff members on strategy-related topics? If so, that should probably be happening *on* strategywiki. If you contact a staff member about strategic planning in one of the ways below, I suggest you just point them to a public thread on strategywiki so more can participate/view the discussion.x And what I noticed was that whereas, for example, Sue Gardner and Erik Moller have wiki-linked job titles - which you can click to see their respective responsibilities - there are quite a few staff entries that do not. See the bottom of the page, where it links you to .odt files with most job descriptions[1]. Most other job descriptions can be found in the job opening page then the position was advertised[2]. It occurs to me that if every effort were made to put the role/responsibilities of ALL staff on the wiki it would really help people to address their ideas to the people most able to help. See above. ;-) Which brings me to a further point; the staff page has wiki-linked names which take you to a user page and its associated talk page. Yep, that's their userpage where they include more personal information about themselves (e.g. link to other userpages/sites, biography). Is the talk page the advised way to contact a staff member directly? Not the foundationwiki one, no, because most people wouldn't be able to talk to them there. (You need an account.) Or is one discouraged from attempting to contact staff directly in general? Are the mailing lists the approved way of getting through to the WMF? Or should we direct everything through Cary as Volunteer Coordinator? [I don't work for the Foundation, so don't take this as an official answer. ;-)] Personally, I don't think you should feel discouraged from contacting staff directly. Quite a few of them have accounts on others wikis (like Meta, for example) and you can talk to them on their talk pages there. Also, they all have e-mails in the form of flastn...@wikimedia.org (first initial, last name), so you should feel free to e-mail them. Mailing lists are usually best for contacting multiple people or when you want to get feedback on something, not for when you want to contact a specific staff member. All this being said, don't feel bad if you want to run something through Cary first. He can always help you figure out who's the best person to handle your query, it might not necessarily even *be* a staff member. I think answers to these questions will be very useful to strategy volunteers and so I'd like permission (or explicit advice not) to paste up the response on the Strategy wiki. The mailing list archives are public, so I don't think anyone would care if you reposted what's discussed in this thread. [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Policies#Related_documents [2] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Category:Job_openings -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Strategy n WMF Staff
On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:25 PM, Casey Brown wrote: Personally, I don't think you should feel discouraged from contacting staff directly. Quite a few of them have accounts on others wikis (like Meta, for example) and you can talk to them on their talk pages there. Also, they all have e-mails in the form of flastn...@wikimedia.org (first initial, last name), so you should feel free to e-mail them. I would add this to Casey's very fine advice - if you're asking them something strategy related, it might be a kind gesture to copy me on it (or eekim). That way, if they ask us about it, we know what they're talking about. :) pb Philippe Beaudette Facilitator, Strategy Project Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org ofc: +1 415 839 6885 (x 643) mobile: 918 200-WIKI (9454) Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
