Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming Flagged Protections
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:14 PM, William Pietri will...@scissor.comwrote: On 05/26/2010 07:05 PM, Aphaia wrote: Personally I support Hyperion Frobnosticating Endoswitch so your direction saddened me a bit, anyway I think the only solution is to make that a user-selectable preference. William ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ^That. Drop down in preferences, some cheesy default. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming Flagged Protections
I think the best way of rolling this out if it is possible would be to replace all semi protected articles with flagged protected ordouble check protected. If it works well we could than either add more pages or apply it to all pages. This would make it more seamless, draw less potentially negative media attention, and allow all those who will be dealing with these edits to figure out how the system works. We do not want to end up like the baggage terminal at that new terminal in London. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, B.Sc. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming Flagged Protections
The most important priority of all is attracting new editors, not preventing vandalism. Vandalism we can prevent in other ways if we have editors, but the absence of new editors prevents achieving anything at all. Consequently, the likelihood of getting community approval for all pages is very low. The successful argument --the only argument which finally get a sufficient consensus--was that flagging was a less restrictive environment for new editors than semi-protection. The question now is whether it will be so obtrusive and awkward, that the non-editing of semi-protection makes more sense than fruitless and disappointing trying-to-edit with flagged protection. Unlike some of the other skeptics, I am not willing to predict failure at this. But that we don't even know what to call it remains an indicator that we do not know how it will be perceived. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:39 PM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: I think the best way of rolling this out if it is possible would be to replace all semi protected articles with flagged protected ordouble check protected. If it works well we could than either add more pages or apply it to all pages. This would make it more seamless, draw less potentially negative media attention, and allow all those who will be dealing with these edits to figure out how the system works. We do not want to end up like the baggage terminal at that new terminal in London. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, B.Sc. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Which pages to apply Flagged Protection to (Re: Renaming Flagged Protections)
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:39 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: I think the best way of rolling this out if it is possible would be to replace all semi protected articles with flagged protected ordouble check protected. If it works well we could than either add more pages or apply it to all pages. Hi James, I think it'd be good to have a conversation on this talk page about the subject of where to roll this out to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Flagged_protection_and_patrolled_revisions/Trial There's already been a little bit of discussion there, and should probably be more. Note that this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_protection_and_patrolled_revisions/Trial ...has a section titled Initial article count limits. We're planning on putting an upper bound of 2000 articles, so putting all semi-protected articles under the new regime is probably off the table. Just speaking for myself as a community member, it seems smart to limit this to pages that would qualify for semi-protection. It would be very appropriate to add a policy sec Speaking as a member of WMF, we think it's really important that the community has policies ready when this rolls out, so thank you for (re)starting the conversation. Rob ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Flagged Protection update for May 27
As requested, here's the weekly Flagged Protection update. The loose-end tidying and rollout prep proceeds apace. This week's rollout prep includes preparing for an emergency rollback, something that we don't expect will be necessary but for which we nonetheless need to be ready. We've been working diligently on the text, which is a key component of the user interface. You can see the enwiki-specific parts of that here: http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Message_updates As part of that text work, we are also, as readers of these lists know, considering changing the name of the English Wikipedia deployment from Flagged Protection to something more easily comprehended by the general public. If you'd like to weigh in on the many options, here's the place: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Flagged_protection_and_patrolled_revisions/Terminology The main thing standing between us and being able to give a release date is some trouble with part of the UI. If you're a HTML CSS guru, we could use your help: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2010-May/047916.html We also fixed a bug this week. Thanks to Sonia, who found and reported that bug. Want to emulate her? Start here: http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page To see the upcoming work, it's listed in our tracker, under Current and Backlog: http://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/46157 We expect to release to labs again next week, and each week thereafter until this goes live on the English Wikipedia. William ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
