Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-21 Thread Aphaia
I agree with Huib: it's no foundation matter unless you've been
blocked in relation to foundation matters (like CentralNotice,
enforcing Foundation policy etc.)

Yaroslav, I think I can understand you are unhappy and somehow upset,
but please give your consideration to that what matters if you are
blocked from the wiki you haven't edited yet and have no further plan
to participate? Actually from nothing you've been hindered, in
particular participating into foundation matters. Keep your good
editing in other projects you have been active, no worried and boldly.

Cheers,

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Huib Laurens  wrote:
> saying you suspend all your work untill this is resolved will not help, this
> is a community matter not a foundation matter.
>
>
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>
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Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-21 Thread Milos Rancic
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 00:00, Yaroslav M. Blanter  wrote:
>
> Today, I have been blocked for half a year on ru.wikiversity by an admin,
> SergeyJ
>
> http://ru.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0:Yaroslav_Blanter&diff=37398&oldid=37388
>
> despite the fact that I have never edited Russian Wikiversity.
>
> Is this a normal practice? I remember the story of Russian Wikisource,
> when an admin, Ramir, has been speedily desysopped by stewards for blocking
> users arbitrarily. But at least these users made some edits. I am not sure
> what should I do now since my SUL shows a block in one of the projects.
>
> Note that SergeyJ has been placed by the Arbitration Committee of Russian
> Wikipedia under editing limitations for gross violations. I am currently
> serving as a member of Arbitration Committee (I was not involved in the
> decision on his editing limitations).

Yaroslav, the first instance for cases like this one are stewards: IRC
channel or anyone of us personally. There is no need for raising this
here. Actually, the only sense for raising such issue here is if you
are not content with stewards' action.

If there won't be solution this evening, I'll take care about it tomorrow.

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Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-21 Thread Huib Laurens
saying you suspend all your work untill this is resolved will not help, this
is a community matter not a foundation matter.


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Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-21 Thread Ilya Schurov
  There's not so many admins on ru.wikiversity 
(http://ru.wikiversity.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F:ListUsers/sysop).
 
So, I don't believe this will work.

This is a common problem of new small projects without healthy communities.

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On 08/22/2010 03:01 AM, Aaron Adrignola wrote:
> It sounds, on the surface, like retaliation simply as a result of your
> association with those who this person feels has wronged him.  Try to
> request an unblock locally and hopefully an administrator without a conflict
> of interest will intervene.
>
> - Adrignola
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanterwrote:
>
>> Today, I have been blocked for half a year on ru.wikiversity by an admin,
>> SergeyJ
>>
>> Note that SergeyJ has been placed by the Arbitration Committee of Russian
>> Wikipedia under editing limitations for gross violations. I am currently
>> serving as a member of Arbitration Committee (I was not involved in the
>> decision on his editing limitations).
>>
>>
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Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-21 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter

 wrote:
> It sounds, on the surface, like retaliation simply as a result of your
> association with those who this person feels has wronged him.  Try to
> request an unblock locally and hopefully an administrator without a
> conflict
> of interest will intervene.
> 
> - Adrignola

The guy was unhappy with some of the comments I made in a blog about
Russian Wikiversity. There are only two administrators over there, I will
now write the second one though I do not expect much.

Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-21 Thread Victor Vasiliev
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter  wrote:
> Is this a normal practice? I remember the story of Russian Wikisource,
It was actually Russian Wikibooks.

> when an admin, Ramir, has been speedily desysopped by stewards for blocking
> users arbitrarily.
He removed Foundation banners from site, made an edit war with
stewards on its removal, insulted several stewards and Foundation as a
whole. His desysop was not only because of his blocks.

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Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-21 Thread Aaron Adrignola
It sounds, on the surface, like retaliation simply as a result of your
association with those who this person feels has wronged him.  Try to
request an unblock locally and hopefully an administrator without a conflict
of interest will intervene.

- Adrignola

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:

>
> Today, I have been blocked for half a year on ru.wikiversity by an admin,
> SergeyJ
>
> Note that SergeyJ has been placed by the Arbitration Committee of Russian
> Wikipedia under editing limitations for gross violations. I am currently
> serving as a member of Arbitration Committee (I was not involved in the
> decision on his editing limitations).
>
>
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Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-21 Thread Victor Vasiliev
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter  wrote:
> PS I have suspended my participation in all WMF projects and activities
> until the issue has been resolved.

Are you blackmailing us? It's no use.

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Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-21 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:00:28 +0400, "Yaroslav M. Blanter"
 wrote:
> Today, I have been blocked for half a year on ru.wikiversity by an
admin,
> SergeyJ 
> 
>
http://ru.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0:Yaroslav_Blanter&diff=37398&oldid=37388
> 
> despite the fact that I have never edited Russian Wikiversity.
> 

Apparently, he also arbitrarily blocked (indefinitely) User:Wind, a ru.wp
bureaucrat, who also has zero edit count in ru.wv

PS I have suspended my participation in all WMF projects and activities
until the issue has been resolved. 

PPS Sorry for a big number of typos in my previous message, apparently I
was in too much hurry.

Cheers
Yaroslav

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[Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty

2010-08-21 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter

Today, I have been blocked for half a year on ru.wikiversity by an admin,
SergeyJ 

http://ru.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0:Yaroslav_Blanter&diff=37398&oldid=37388

despite the fact that I have never edited Russian Wikiversity.

Is this a normal practice? I remember the story of Russian Wikisource,
when an admin, Ramir, has been speedily desysopped by stewards for blocking
users arbitrarily. But at least these users made some edits. I am not sure
what should I do now since my SUL shows a block in one of the projects.

Note that SergeyJ has been placed by the Arbitration Committee of Russian
Wikipedia under editing limitations for gross violations. I am currently
serving as a member of Arbitration Committee (I was not involved in the
decision on his editing limitations). 

Cheers
Yaroslav

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Re: [Foundation-l] [Fundraising] Banner testing again

2010-08-21 Thread Osama Khalid
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:57:56AM -0700, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
> Yes, we'll be testing geolocation.  In the interests of getting the  
> tests in a functional order, we started with a "lightweight" version,  
> and will be progressively adding levels of complexity as we get closer  
> to the fundraiser.

I don't know if this is the perfect place, but is it possible to have
statistics for donations per language this year, maybe something
similar to "currency totals"?

Also, will this test include localized messages?

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Re: [Foundation-l] [Fundraising] Banner testing again

2010-08-21 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Hi Lodewijk:

Yes, we'll be testing geolocation.  In the interests of getting the  
tests in a functional order, we started with a "lightweight" version,  
and will be progressively adding levels of complexity as we get closer  
to the fundraiser.

pb

On Aug 21, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Lodewijk wrote:

> Hi Philippe,
>
> thanks for this advance warning. I dont recall you sharing this before
> on this list, but I probably just missed it.
>
> Just for the record, I assume you will also be testing the
> geolocation? (which is most likely one of the things that can break,
> and therefore important to test - also giving the option to test
> chapter pages). Since I did not see any call to the chapters to update
> pages etc, I assume you are going to use last years infrastructure?
>
> Best,
>
> Lodewijk
>
> 2010/8/19 Federico Leva (Nemo) :
>> Philippe Beaudette, 19/08/2010 06:00:
>>> Just a heads up that Thursday at 22:00 UTC (15:00 Pacific), we'll be
>>> running some very light banner testing to make sure that the tools  
>>> we
>>> use for the fundraiser are fully optimized before we launch.  We'll
>>> also take the opportunity to do a little bit of message testing.   
>>> The
>>> banners will serve to a very low set of editors, but I didn't want  
>>> you
>>> to be surprised if you got one.
>>
>> I put some suggestions on
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Banner_testing (which
>> will hopefully reduce your work).
>>
>> Nemo
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Re: [Foundation-l] [Fundraising] Banner testing again

2010-08-21 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Philippe,

thanks for this advance warning. I dont recall you sharing this before
on this list, but I probably just missed it.

Just for the record, I assume you will also be testing the
geolocation? (which is most likely one of the things that can break,
and therefore important to test - also giving the option to test
chapter pages). Since I did not see any call to the chapters to update
pages etc, I assume you are going to use last years infrastructure?

Best,

Lodewijk

2010/8/19 Federico Leva (Nemo) :
> Philippe Beaudette, 19/08/2010 06:00:
>> Just a heads up that Thursday at 22:00 UTC (15:00 Pacific), we'll be
>> running some very light banner testing to make sure that the tools we
>> use for the fundraiser are fully optimized before we launch.  We'll
>> also take the opportunity to do a little bit of message testing.  The
>> banners will serve to a very low set of editors, but I didn't want you
>> to be surprised if you got one.
>
> I put some suggestions on
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Banner_testing (which
> will hopefully reduce your work).
>
> Nemo
>
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