Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty
I agree with Huib: it's no foundation matter unless you've been blocked in relation to foundation matters (like CentralNotice, enforcing Foundation policy etc.) Yaroslav, I think I can understand you are unhappy and somehow upset, but please give your consideration to that what matters if you are blocked from the wiki you haven't edited yet and have no further plan to participate? Actually from nothing you've been hindered, in particular participating into foundation matters. Keep your good editing in other projects you have been active, no worried and boldly. Cheers, On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Huib Laurens wrote: > saying you suspend all your work untill this is resolved will not help, this > is a community matter not a foundation matter. > > > -- > Regards, > Huib "Abigor" Laurens > > > > Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- KIZU Naoko http://d.hatena.ne.jp/Britty (in Japanese) Quote of the Day (English): http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/WQ:QOTD ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 00:00, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > Today, I have been blocked for half a year on ru.wikiversity by an admin, > SergeyJ > > http://ru.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0:Yaroslav_Blanter&diff=37398&oldid=37388 > > despite the fact that I have never edited Russian Wikiversity. > > Is this a normal practice? I remember the story of Russian Wikisource, > when an admin, Ramir, has been speedily desysopped by stewards for blocking > users arbitrarily. But at least these users made some edits. I am not sure > what should I do now since my SUL shows a block in one of the projects. > > Note that SergeyJ has been placed by the Arbitration Committee of Russian > Wikipedia under editing limitations for gross violations. I am currently > serving as a member of Arbitration Committee (I was not involved in the > decision on his editing limitations). Yaroslav, the first instance for cases like this one are stewards: IRC channel or anyone of us personally. There is no need for raising this here. Actually, the only sense for raising such issue here is if you are not content with stewards' action. If there won't be solution this evening, I'll take care about it tomorrow. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty
saying you suspend all your work untill this is resolved will not help, this is a community matter not a foundation matter. -- Regards, Huib "Abigor" Laurens Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty
There's not so many admins on ru.wikiversity (http://ru.wikiversity.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F:ListUsers/sysop). So, I don't believe this will work. This is a common problem of new small projects without healthy communities. -- Regards, I.V. On 08/22/2010 03:01 AM, Aaron Adrignola wrote: > It sounds, on the surface, like retaliation simply as a result of your > association with those who this person feels has wronged him. Try to > request an unblock locally and hopefully an administrator without a conflict > of interest will intervene. > > - Adrignola > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanterwrote: > >> Today, I have been blocked for half a year on ru.wikiversity by an admin, >> SergeyJ >> >> Note that SergeyJ has been placed by the Arbitration Committee of Russian >> Wikipedia under editing limitations for gross violations. I am currently >> serving as a member of Arbitration Committee (I was not involved in the >> decision on his editing limitations). >> >> > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty
wrote: > It sounds, on the surface, like retaliation simply as a result of your > association with those who this person feels has wronged him. Try to > request an unblock locally and hopefully an administrator without a > conflict > of interest will intervene. > > - Adrignola The guy was unhappy with some of the comments I made in a blog about Russian Wikiversity. There are only two administrators over there, I will now write the second one though I do not expect much. Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > Is this a normal practice? I remember the story of Russian Wikisource, It was actually Russian Wikibooks. > when an admin, Ramir, has been speedily desysopped by stewards for blocking > users arbitrarily. He removed Foundation banners from site, made an edit war with stewards on its removal, insulted several stewards and Foundation as a whole. His desysop was not only because of his blocks. --vvv ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty
It sounds, on the surface, like retaliation simply as a result of your association with those who this person feels has wronged him. Try to request an unblock locally and hopefully an administrator without a conflict of interest will intervene. - Adrignola On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > > Today, I have been blocked for half a year on ru.wikiversity by an admin, > SergeyJ > > Note that SergeyJ has been placed by the Arbitration Committee of Russian > Wikipedia under editing limitations for gross violations. I am currently > serving as a member of Arbitration Committee (I was not involved in the > decision on his editing limitations). > > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > PS I have suspended my participation in all WMF projects and activities > until the issue has been resolved. Are you blackmailing us? It's no use. --vvv ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty
On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 02:00:28 +0400, "Yaroslav M. Blanter" wrote: > Today, I have been blocked for half a year on ru.wikiversity by an admin, > SergeyJ > > http://ru.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0:Yaroslav_Blanter&diff=37398&oldid=37388 > > despite the fact that I have never edited Russian Wikiversity. > Apparently, he also arbitrarily blocked (indefinitely) User:Wind, a ru.wp bureaucrat, who also has zero edit count in ru.wv PS I have suspended my participation in all WMF projects and activities until the issue has been resolved. PPS Sorry for a big number of typos in my previous message, apparently I was in too much hurry. Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] ru-Wikiversuty
Today, I have been blocked for half a year on ru.wikiversity by an admin, SergeyJ http://ru.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%9E%D0%B1%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0:Yaroslav_Blanter&diff=37398&oldid=37388 despite the fact that I have never edited Russian Wikiversity. Is this a normal practice? I remember the story of Russian Wikisource, when an admin, Ramir, has been speedily desysopped by stewards for blocking users arbitrarily. But at least these users made some edits. I am not sure what should I do now since my SUL shows a block in one of the projects. Note that SergeyJ has been placed by the Arbitration Committee of Russian Wikipedia under editing limitations for gross violations. I am currently serving as a member of Arbitration Committee (I was not involved in the decision on his editing limitations). Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Fundraising] Banner testing again
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:57:56AM -0700, Philippe Beaudette wrote: > Yes, we'll be testing geolocation. In the interests of getting the > tests in a functional order, we started with a "lightweight" version, > and will be progressively adding levels of complexity as we get closer > to the fundraiser. I don't know if this is the perfect place, but is it possible to have statistics for donations per language this year, maybe something similar to "currency totals"? Also, will this test include localized messages? -- Osama Khalid English-to-Arabic translator and programmer. http://osamak.wordpress.com | http://tinyogg.com ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Fundraising] Banner testing again
Hi Lodewijk: Yes, we'll be testing geolocation. In the interests of getting the tests in a functional order, we started with a "lightweight" version, and will be progressively adding levels of complexity as we get closer to the fundraiser. pb On Aug 21, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > Hi Philippe, > > thanks for this advance warning. I dont recall you sharing this before > on this list, but I probably just missed it. > > Just for the record, I assume you will also be testing the > geolocation? (which is most likely one of the things that can break, > and therefore important to test - also giving the option to test > chapter pages). Since I did not see any call to the chapters to update > pages etc, I assume you are going to use last years infrastructure? > > Best, > > Lodewijk > > 2010/8/19 Federico Leva (Nemo) : >> Philippe Beaudette, 19/08/2010 06:00: >>> Just a heads up that Thursday at 22:00 UTC (15:00 Pacific), we'll be >>> running some very light banner testing to make sure that the tools >>> we >>> use for the fundraiser are fully optimized before we launch. We'll >>> also take the opportunity to do a little bit of message testing. >>> The >>> banners will serve to a very low set of editors, but I didn't want >>> you >>> to be surprised if you got one. >> >> I put some suggestions on >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Banner_testing (which >> will hopefully reduce your work). >> >> Nemo >> >> ___ >> Fundraising mailing list >> fundrais...@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/fundraising >> > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Fundraising] Banner testing again
Hi Philippe, thanks for this advance warning. I dont recall you sharing this before on this list, but I probably just missed it. Just for the record, I assume you will also be testing the geolocation? (which is most likely one of the things that can break, and therefore important to test - also giving the option to test chapter pages). Since I did not see any call to the chapters to update pages etc, I assume you are going to use last years infrastructure? Best, Lodewijk 2010/8/19 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > Philippe Beaudette, 19/08/2010 06:00: >> Just a heads up that Thursday at 22:00 UTC (15:00 Pacific), we'll be >> running some very light banner testing to make sure that the tools we >> use for the fundraiser are fully optimized before we launch. We'll >> also take the opportunity to do a little bit of message testing. The >> banners will serve to a very low set of editors, but I didn't want you >> to be surprised if you got one. > > I put some suggestions on > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2010/Banner_testing (which > will hopefully reduce your work). > > Nemo > > ___ > Fundraising mailing list > fundrais...@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/fundraising > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l