[Foundation-l] Applications for list moderator position
We're looking to add one more list moderator for foundation-l. On foundation-l, the main role of a moderator is to approve posts made by moderated users and users who are not subscribed to the list. Occasionally, a list moderator has to step in and control discussion when it gets out-of-hand, but, thank goodness, that is generally a rare occurrence here. Anyone interested in serving as a list moderator, please send an e-mail to foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org, no later than 23:59 UTC on September 23rd. Please include the following information: - Wikimedia username - Projects you are active on - Any roles you serve in on those projects (e.g. administrator, WikiProject coordinator, mediator, etc.) - Anything else that might be useful - info about yourself, etc. Again, please send your submissions no later than 23:59 UTC on September 23rd. Thanks, Austin Hair, list moderator Ryan Lomonaco, list moderator ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Fellowship program
On 9/15/2010 2:12 PM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: > Hi, > > Le mercredi 15 septembre 2010 à 14:09 -0700, Philippe Beaudette a > écrit : >> Please see the Wikimedia Blog (http://blog.wikimedia.org/ ) for an >> exciting announcement about the Wikimedia Foundation Fellowship >> program, and the first recipient of a Fellowship, Steven Walling. > Specific, deep links are better for the archives :) > http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2010/09/15/wikimedia-foundation-fellowship-program/ This is an idea that has been floating around for a while and I think it's a very good concept to try out. I'm excited that Zack is putting those ideas into practice and I look forward to seeing the work of Steven and future fellows. --Michael Snow ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] [Language committee] Transparency
As Karen fixed her anonymity issue, archives of the Language committee will be public by default starting from September 12th, 2010. We will continue to use the same method for the list archives, as it allows us to talk about confidential (mostly personal) issues. Previous emails will stay as they are, according to the old rules. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia mirrors
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:52:25AM +1000, John Vandenberg wrote: > We would need to mirror the database dumps available from > > http://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html The main issue is that they are not being updated as frequently as they should be. > The toolserver (run by the German chapter) has a 'live' copy of the > databases, so that would likely be the first recovery option. That's interesting because we also need a 'private backup' for all hidden data including deleted revisions. Storing them at chapters facilities seems to be a good idea. -- Osama Khalid English-to-Arabic translator and programmer. http://osamak.wordpress.com | http://tinyogg.com ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia mirrors
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Osama Khalid wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:00:38AM +1000, John Vandenberg wrote: >> A mirror system would be great; that is how project gutenberg, linux >> and sf.net do disaster recovery. It is simple, cheap and effective. > > What about history data and other logs? I'm afraid that mirrors may > not be the best way to copy all of them. We would need to mirror the database dumps available from http://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html The toolserver (run by the German chapter) has a 'live' copy of the databases, so that would likely be the first recovery option. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolserver Is the toolserver database missing any data which would be needed to reconstruct a wikimedia project, other than the images? The main potential problem with a replicated copy, like the toolserver, is that it can replicate the problem that occurred on the primary database. -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia mirrors
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:00:38AM +1000, John Vandenberg wrote: > A mirror system would be great; that is how project gutenberg, linux > and sf.net do disaster recovery. It is simple, cheap and effective. What about history data and other logs? I'm afraid that mirrors may not be the best way to copy all of them. -- Osama Khalid English-to-Arabic translator and programmer. http://osamak.wordpress.com | http://tinyogg.com ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Wikimedia mirrors
(subject was: Cyn Skyberg joins Wikimedia as CTCO!) On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > >> I've always >> thought that if for some reason all of the Wikimedia projects suddenly >> disappeared (and no one had any backups) we would be upset about it for a >> couple of days but then we would just start again ... > > O RLY!? This was my first thought as well. But as Liam said after that... >> ... and we would do it better! If this scenario ever did happen, I expect that the first step would be to ensure it never happened again. We, the people, should start planning for this worse case scenario now. A mirror system would be great; that is how project gutenberg, linux and sf.net do disaster recovery. It is simple, cheap and effective. http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Mirrors http://www.gutenberg.org/MIRRORS.ALL English, French, German, Italian, Polish, Portugeuse, Swedish and Chinese Wikipedia all appear to have some mirrors, but are any of them reliable enough to be used for disaster recovery? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MIRROR http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Weiternutzung http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Sites_miroirs http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cloni It would be nice to have an agreement with these mirrors that they will make the most recent dump available if WMF is unable to provide it. I don't see any mirrors listed on the Spanish page about mirrors. Are there mirrors of other Wikimedia projects? The smaller projects are easier to backup, as they are smaller. I am sure that with a little effort and coordination, chapters, universities and similar organisations would be willing to routinely backup a subset of projects, and combined we would have multiple current backups of all projects. -- John Vandenberg Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;) - Torvalds, Linus (1996-07-20). ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Fellowship program
Hi, Le mercredi 15 septembre 2010 à 14:09 -0700, Philippe Beaudette a écrit : > > Please see the Wikimedia Blog (http://blog.wikimedia.org/ ) for an > exciting announcement about the Wikimedia Foundation Fellowship > program, and the first recipient of a Fellowship, Steven Walling. Specific, deep links are better for the archives :) http://blog.wikimedia.org/blog/2010/09/15/wikimedia-foundation-fellowship-program/ -- Guillaume Paumier Product Manager, Multimedia Usability Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation Fellowship program
Hi all, Please see the Wikimedia Blog (http://blog.wikimedia.org/ ) for an exciting announcement about the Wikimedia Foundation Fellowship program, and the first recipient of a Fellowship, Steven Walling. Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Bodnot bod unable to access...
There are some DNS issues in Europe :) Tech team is actively working. Philippe Beaudette Head of Reader Relations Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org ofc: +1 415 839 6885 (x 643) mobile: 918 200 WIKI (9454) Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Liam Wyatt > wrote: > >> I've always >> thought that if for some reason all of the Wikimedia projects >> suddenly >> disappeared (and no one had any backups) we would be upset about it >> for a >> couple of days but then we would just start again > > O RLY!? > > There is no way I am proof-reading that article about an obscure > Canadian politician - whose name I have long since forgotten - for FAC > again, no matter what you say. It was tedious enough the first time > around. > > As it happens I appear unable to access Wikipedia at the time of > writing. We do have back-ups right? ;o) > > User:Bodnotbod > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Cyn Skyberg joins Wikimedia as CTCO!
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > I've always > thought that if for some reason all of the Wikimedia projects suddenly > disappeared (and no one had any backups) we would be upset about it for a > couple of days but then we would just start again O RLY!? There is no way I am proof-reading that article about an obscure Canadian politician - whose name I have long since forgotten - for FAC again, no matter what you say. It was tedious enough the first time around. As it happens I appear unable to access Wikipedia at the time of writing. We do have back-ups right? ;o) User:Bodnotbod ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Has Wikipedia changed since 2005?
Hey guys whats going on in this thread 2010/9/15 Phil Nash > Ryan Kaldari wrote: > > I thought you were awarding the post a score of 0 :) > > It would be all too cheap a jibe to attribute to a self-proclaimed > philosopher an ignorance of scientific method and assert that blind > adoption > of the continuity principle is contrary to that method; however, it is fair > to say that his interests largely lie in medieval philosophy and may not > reach as far as the works of Karl Popper, let alone the Renaissance. > > So I will not level that accusation. > > > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] How far off-topic can a thread go Was: Has Wikipedia changed since 2005?
Obviously the original e-mail belonged on wiki-en-l and was off-topic for foundation-l. But I can't understand why so many different people think it is a good idea to respond to off-topic posts in kind. Please stop participating in the off-topic contests. Birgitte SB --- On Tue, 9/14/10, Phil Nash wrote: > From: Phil Nash > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Has Wikipedia changed since 2005? > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" > Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 6:44 PM > Ryan Kaldari wrote: > > I thought you were awarding the post a score of 0 :) > > It would be all too cheap a jibe to attribute to a > self-proclaimed > philosopher an ignorance of scientific method and assert > that blind adoption > of the continuity principle is contrary to that method; > however, it is fair > to say that his interests largely lie in medieval > philosophy and may not > reach as far as the works of Karl Popper, let alone the > Renaissance. > > So I will not level that accusation. > > > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Six more weeks for the current "most often used" messages
Hoi, Now that the Usability Initiative software has been rolled out to all Wikimedia projects, the composition of the "most often used" messages has changed. It is expected that a new list of messages will be created in six weeks time. Thanks, GerardM http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/09/six-more-weeks.html ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
