Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Audited Financial Statements for 2009-10 Fiscal Year Now Available
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:40 AM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 October 2010 16:40, Veronique Kessler vkess...@wikimedia.org wrote: I am pleased to announce that the Wikimedia Foundation's audited financial statements for the years ended June 30, 2010 and 2009 are available on the Foundation wiki at: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/c/cc/FINAL_09_10From_KPMG.pdf In anticipation of any questions, we have also prepared a Question and Answer sheet also posted on the Foundation wiki at: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2009-2010_Financial_Statements_Questions_and_Answers I am happy to answer any questions you might have. Veronique 470K on travel. Quite impressive for an web based organization. At British airways prices that's still over 500 return journeys from new york to london. Assuming our staff sleep on sidewalks and beg for food when they travel. -- Andrew Garrett http://werdn.us/ ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?
2010/10/27 Jon Davis jda...@wikimedia.org: Sorry, not this time. What I've got off hand isn't in a publicly usable format. I didn't think it would be of interest to the public. Now I know and next time I will make sure the info is public friendly, should it be desired. What does that mean exactly? Does it contain sensitive information or what? It could really be of interest to other organizations to see this information, even if it's not really well organised. P.S. I think Orientation 101 at WMF should begin with: anything you'll do will be of interest to lots and lots of curious and potentially tech-savy people, so document it properly :P ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: .. What does that mean exactly? Does it contain sensitive information or what? It could really be of interest to other organizations to see this information, even if it's not really well organised. P.S. I think Orientation 101 at WMF should begin with: anything you'll do will be of interest to lots and lots of curious and potentially tech-savy people, so document it properly :P ... and their collective mind is probably better than your own, so invite comments before you make decisions. -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?
2010/10/27 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: .. What does that mean exactly? Does it contain sensitive information or what? It could really be of interest to other organizations to see this information, even if it's not really well organised. P.S. I think Orientation 101 at WMF should begin with: anything you'll do will be of interest to lots and lots of curious and potentially tech-savy people, so document it properly :P ... and their collective mind is probably better than your own, so invite comments before you make decisions. ... and their willingness to second-guess everything you do has no boundaries, so exercise discretion and good judgment about the extent of your overall engagement, lest you find yourself absorbed into a collaborative process that more closely resembles an H.R. Giger painting than good faith collaboration. -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?
2010/10/27 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: 2010/10/27 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: .. What does that mean exactly? Does it contain sensitive information or what? It could really be of interest to other organizations to see this information, even if it's not really well organised. P.S. I think Orientation 101 at WMF should begin with: anything you'll do will be of interest to lots and lots of curious and potentially tech-savy people, so document it properly :P ... and their collective mind is probably better than your own, so invite comments before you make decisions. ... and their willingness to second-guess everything you do has no boundaries, so exercise discretion and good judgment about the extent of your overall engagement, lest you find yourself absorbed into a collaborative process that more closely resembles an H.R. Giger painting than good faith collaboration. Let's not get carried away here. I am always interested to seeing alternatives to the tools I use myself and I'm willing to dig through some not-so-clear notes or whatever to find information, if that spares me some testing time. That was the sole reason I insisted for the release of the information. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: 2010/10/27 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: .. What does that mean exactly? Does it contain sensitive information or what? It could really be of interest to other organizations to see this information, even if it's not really well organised. P.S. I think Orientation 101 at WMF should begin with: anything you'll do will be of interest to lots and lots of curious and potentially tech-savy people, so document it properly :P ... and their collective mind is probably better than your own, so invite comments before you make decisions. ... and their willingness to second-guess everything you do has no boundaries, so exercise discretion and good judgment about the extent of your overall engagement, lest you find yourself absorbed into a collaborative process that more closely resembles an H.R. Giger painting than good faith collaboration. That said, our core [[wmf:Values]] includes transparency, and recognises that our community is our biggest asset. -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?
Hello, While I recognise that most of us use free software as much as we can, one element that haven't been brought up in this thread yet is the matter of time. Some FLOSS solution simply take more time than proprietary ones, and I know for a fact that the tech team have s much things to do that we should a) give them a break if they investigate a matter properly (which they seem to have done here) and decide that a proprietary solution will have to do for now, and b) try to help them as much as we can, by solving problems they haven't time to solve themselves. Let's therefore close this thread and move on to more important things. Best wishes, Lennart 2010/10/27 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org 2010/10/27 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: Let's not get carried away here. I am always interested to seeing alternatives to the tools I use myself and I'm willing to dig through some not-so-clear notes or whatever to find information, if that spares me some testing time. That was the sole reason I insisted for the release of the information. As I mentioned further upthread, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FLOSS_Exchange is intended as a public home for documentation. I'd love to see subpages in future for experiences of individual Wikimedia organizations with specific software, including go-or-no-go decisions on FLOSS solutions. We'll grow develop this stuff as we find time. Feel free to capture some of the information from this thread on that page or otherwise help make it more useful. -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Swedish videos
The first one, Linda Skugge, is a famous Swedish author and journalist, and files 2 and 3 are interviews with the guy who's behind the donation from Regionarkivet. 4 is with the Swedish Creative Commons guy. And so on. We are now debating on Swedish Wikipedia how to handle these interviews in the Wikipedia articles. I will let you know what we come up with. Are other chapters or volunteers doing similar stuff? I've seen interview with videos on the en Wikinews - the interview with Chomsky (text + video) http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Interview_with_US_political_activist_and_philosopher_Noam_Chomsky Could you use it in sv Wikinews? Przykuta ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?
On 27 October 2010 09:53, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: 2010/10/27 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com: ... and their collective mind is probably better than your own, so invite comments before you make decisions. ... and their willingness to second-guess everything you do has no boundaries, so exercise discretion and good judgment about the extent of your overall engagement, lest you find yourself absorbed into a collaborative process that more closely resembles an H.R. Giger painting than good faith collaboration. +1 - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?
On 27 October 2010 10:15, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: That said, our core [[wmf:Values]] includes transparency, and recognises that our community is our biggest asset. Wikimedia is about the most transparent charity on the face of the earth. It's possible that taking it to the pathological degree you appear to advocate would already tip over into being counterproductive. - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com wrote: Some FLOSS solution simply take more time than proprietary ones, and I know for a fact that the tech team have s much things to do that we should a) give them a break if they investigate a matter properly (which they seem to have done here) and decide that a proprietary solution will have to do for now, and b) try to help them as much as we can, by solving problems they haven't time to solve themselves. Let's therefore close this thread and move on to more important things. Last I checked there was plenty of room to expand the tech team's budget. So I hope the decision wasn't simply a matter of not having enough time. A collaborative project making free educational content needs free tools. Google knows about the importance of collaborative tools. That's why they created Google Apps. Hopefully there's at least a plan in place for eventually migrating back off of Google. Now, agreed, let's close this thread and move on to more important things: expanding the tech budget. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Rethinking Wikipedia contributions rates
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: http://eaves.ca/2010/10/27/rethinking-wikipedia-contributions-rates/ It sounds like Diederik Van Liere is going to be able to help us better guess the size of our community. -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
