Re: [Foundation-l] H2G2 "to be disposed of"

2011-01-24 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 01/24/2011 05:09 PM, Magnus Manske wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12265173
>
> Anything worth salvaging?

If released under a free license, it could find its place on Wikisource. 
I have found at least a few articles that could be used to improve 
Wikipedia ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/approved_entry/A592599 is much 
longer than http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Word_%28radio_show%29 
and http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/approved_entry/A76282158 doesn't seem to 
have the article on Wikipedia at all). It is a question however if per 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/help/entry_faqs#copyright and 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/terms/#4 "In certain circumstance the BBC may also 
share your contribution with trusted third parties*." would allow for 
such a release.

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Re: [Foundation-l] IRC Office Hours with Exec. Dir. Sue Gardner, Jan. 28th 18:00 UTC

2011-01-24 Thread Steven Walling
Hi everyone,


Just a note to say that we've decided to move the IRC office hours to
Thursday the 27th at the same time in order to better fit everyone's
schedule here at the WMF. Sorry for any confusion or inconvenience.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Steven Walling wrote:

> Just to correct myself: that's *Friday *the 28th, not Thursday.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Steven Walling wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Now that we're past the rush of the fundraiser and the tenth anniversary,
>> we're going to renew IRC office hours beginning this Thursday, January 28th,
>> 18:00-19:00 UTC. Joining us will be Sue Gardner (Executive Director of the
>> Wikimedia Foundation). It would be great if you could be there to help us
>> kick off a new series of discussions about the Foundation, its work, and the
>> movement as a whole.
>>
>> If you're not familiar with IRC office hours, instructions for how to join
>> and a link to time conversion can be found at
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Steven Walling
>> Fellow at the Wikimedia Foundation
>> wikimediafoundation.org
>>
>>
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[Foundation-l] Executive Director Trip Report: Stockholm, London, Dubai, Delhi

2011-01-24 Thread Sue Gardner
Hey folks,

As you may know, whenever I travel internationally I write up a trip
report afterwards for the board and staff of the Wikimedia Foundation.
I also publish it to foundation-l.

Between November 20 and December 6, I did a pretty considerable stint
of travel: to Stockholm, London, Dubai and Delhi, accompanied by my
assistant James Owen everywhere except Delhi. The trip report
describing that is below. There's also a little description of my
holiday following the work trip, in northern India. That wasn't
official Wikimedia business, but I wrote up some notes on it for the
board, just for fun, and I've kept them intact here.

Please note I write these documents pretty quickly, and I don't do any
rigorous fact-checking: they're just intended to be quick captures of
my experiences and impressions. That means that any errors and
omissions here are mine. So for people like Lennart, Liam, etc.: if
I've made mistakes here please forgive me, and please don't hesitate
to correct the record :-)

I think I've got an IRC chat coming up this Thursday, January 27. (It
was originally scheduled for Friday, but it's likely going to end up
shifted to Thursday: James will publicize the date & time once it's
finalized.) If you've got questions/comments/thoughts, please feel
free to comment on this list, or come to my IRC chat. Please also feel
free to forward this report to other lists that might find it
interesting.

Thanks,
Sue

--

Trip Report

Summary: Between November 20 and December 6, I visited Stockholm,
London, Dubai and Delhi. James was with me in Stockholm, London and
Dubai. During the trip, I spoke at three conferences, was interviewed
by 16 journalists, and met with about 50 Wikimedians as well as a few
supporters and friends at cultural institutions, and I interviewed
candidates for the Wikimedia Program Director for India. Afterwards I
went on three weeks holiday in India, including a 10-day silent
Vipassana meditation retreat in Karnal, north of Delhi. The trip had
multiple overlapping goals -- to advance awareness of Wikipedia
(particularly during our fundraising season) and to encourage people
to try editing, as well as to support chapters and find out a little
more about the challenges and opportunities faced by editors in the
Middle East. On the whole, the trip was successful and we’ll probably
aim to do similar ones in future, building on lessons learned this
time.

Stockholm (November 21-26)

I was interviewed by IDG Sweden, CIO Magazine Sweden, Computer Sweden
magazine, the Tidningarnas Telegrambyrå news agency and the PR officer
at the National Library. (See media links at the end of this
document.)

The night before the Academy, I had dinner with Erlend and Ulf of
Wikimedia Norway, as well Fluff, Lennart, Jan, Lars, Holger, David,
Kristoffer, Bellgt, and Axel of Wikimedia Sweden.

I did the keynote at the Swedish chapter's third annual Wikipedia
Academy, held in Stockholm. Only about 20 people attended that day,
which was disappointing for both me and the chapter.  (Apparently for
a week or so prior to the conference, the sign-up pages had been
displaying as “full,” which the organizers thought might’ve depressed
attendance.)  I gather attendance was much better the second day, a
Saturday. At the conference I met a number of new-to-me Wikipedians,
including 15-year-old editor Leo (User Calandrella on the Swedish,
English, German, Norwegian and Spanish WPs, as well as Commons,
Wikinews and Wiktionary) and a half-dozen others. Also met Kjell
Nilsson, the head of international relations for the National Library
(conference venue), who is retiring soon and looking for a project,
and who both Lennart and I tried to persuade to run for the Swedish
chapter board. (Wikimedia Sweden is eager to recruit board members,
and Kjell might be a terrific addition: he is smart and energetic;
attended Liam’s GLAM conference in Amsterdam and loved it, and is
knowledgeable about copyright and open access.)

London (November 27- December 1)

I did the keynote at Liam Wyatt's GLAM wiki event at the British
Museum. I am guessing turnout was 100+ people. Attendees included
several dozen Wikimedians as well as people from many UK cultural
institutions including the Victoria & Albert, the Tate, the National
Portrait Gallery and the British Library. I met a half-dozen new-to-me
Wikimedians, including a 12-year-old editor named Peter, and saw folks
I’ve known a long time like Jimmy, Liam Wyatt, Joseph Seddon, Mike
Peel, James Forrester, WereSpielChequers, Filceolaire, Geni and
others.

In London, I was interviewed by the BBC, the Daily Telegraph
newspaper, the Times of London newspaper, and Wired magazine UK.  (See
media links at the end of this document.)

Dubai (December 1- 5)

I spoke at TED-x Dubai, where the attendees had lots of love for
Wikipedia. TED-x Dubai was very slickly executed: excellent branding,
professionally managed, terrific audio/visual. Attendees seemed to be
pretty typical for TED -- young and middl

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Re: [Foundation-l] H2G2 "to be disposed of"

2011-01-24 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 24 January 2011 18:02, geni  wrote:
> On 24 January 2011 16:09, Magnus Manske  wrote:
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12265173
>>
>> Anything worth salvaging?
>>
>
> Probably but I can't see it falling within our remit. Apart from
> anything else it's not under a free license.

If the BBC owns the copyright, or has permission to re-license the
work, then that isn't an issue. I can't remember the copyright system
for h2g2 (I was very active there before I became active on Wikipedia,
but that was years ago).

I don't think their content would be appropriate for us without a
major re-write, though. It tends to be (or at least, tended to be
while I was there) written in a very light-hearted, sometimes even
comedic, tone. It's not encyclopaedic. It isn't well-referenced either
(and certainly isn't a reliable source).

h2g2 was a fun community, but it wasn't really a useful project.

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Re: [Foundation-l] H2G2 "to be disposed of"

2011-01-24 Thread David Gerard
On 24 January 2011 16:09, Magnus Manske  wrote:

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12265173
> Anything worth salvaging?


Is it even under a CC-ish licence?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/forums/A639056/conversation/view/F77636/T8018187

"However, H2G2 is unusual. It is a pre-existing community that the BBC
brought into its fold, not a community that the BBC set up from
scratch. So rather than closing it, we've decided to explore another
option. This process has been referred to elsewhere as the "disposal"
of H2G2. I'll admit this is not a great choices of words, but what is
means is that we'll be looking for proposals from others to take on
the running of H2G2."

The actual machine it runs on is a years-out-of-warranty Dell server
running Windows 2000. Not sure if it still has an outboard USB disk in
the back. What I mean is, it's ridiculous levels of bespoke and
already running on something that should rightly be a discard.


- d.

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Re: [Foundation-l] H2G2 "to be disposed of"

2011-01-24 Thread geni
On 24 January 2011 16:09, Magnus Manske  wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12265173
>
> Anything worth salvaging?
>

Probably but I can't see it falling within our remit. Apart from
anything else it's not under a free license. Some of their other stuff
might highlight areas we could perhaps move into but there isn't much
detail and nothing listed at:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/2011/01/delivering-quality-first.shtml

Looks like it would really interest us.

-- 
geni

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Re: [Foundation-l] IRC Office Hours with Exec. Dir. Sue Gardner, Jan. 28th 18:00 UTC

2011-01-24 Thread Steven Walling
Just to correct myself: that's *Friday *the 28th, not Thursday.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Steven Walling wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Now that we're past the rush of the fundraiser and the tenth anniversary,
> we're going to renew IRC office hours beginning this Thursday, January 28th,
> 18:00-19:00 UTC. Joining us will be Sue Gardner (Executive Director of the
> Wikimedia Foundation). It would be great if you could be there to help us
> kick off a new series of discussions about the Foundation, its work, and the
> movement as a whole.
>
> If you're not familiar with IRC office hours, instructions for how to join
> and a link to time conversion can be found at
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steven Walling
> Fellow at the Wikimedia Foundation
> wikimediafoundation.org
>
>
>
>
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[Foundation-l] IRC Office Hours with Exec. Dir. Sue Gardner, Jan. 28th 18:00 UTC

2011-01-24 Thread Steven Walling
Hi everyone,

Now that we're past the rush of the fundraiser and the tenth anniversary, we're 
going to renew IRC office hours beginning this Thursday, January 28th, 
18:00-19:00 UTC. Joining us will be Sue Gardner (Executive Director of the 
Wikimedia Foundation). It would be great if you could be there to help us kick 
off a new series of discussions about the Foundation, its work, and the 
movement as a whole. 

If you're not familiar with IRC office hours, instructions for how to join and 
a link to time conversion can be found at 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours

Thanks! 

Steven Walling
Fellow at the Wikimedia Foundation
wikimediafoundation.org





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[Foundation-l] H2G2 "to be disposed of"

2011-01-24 Thread Magnus Manske
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12265173

Anything worth salvaging?

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