Re: [Foundation-l] Licenses' biodiversity : my big disagreement with the Wikimedia usability initiative's software specifications

2011-02-28 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 02/23/11 5:10 AM, Lodewijk wrote:
 If that is the case (As I understood this has never yet been tested in
 court, but I would appreciate any links to any jurisprudence, although we
 probably should start a new thread) then the point I tried to make still
 stands: a license should work in every medium. Whether the uploader makes
 restrictions to the applicability of the license does not matter, we should
 just avoid that merely because of the license the work cannot be used in a
 certain medium.

The lack of jurisprudence is often because the costs of litigation far 
exceed the value of the infringement.  Saying that a licence should work 
in every medium is shaky at best.  A spoken version of a written work 
would raise the matter of performance rights.  Extrapolations to other 
media cannot be evaluated without knowing what the new medium is.

Ec

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Re: [Foundation-l] Friendliness (was: Missing Wikipedians: An Essay)

2011-02-28 Thread elisabeth bauer
2011/2/27  wjhon...@aol.com:

 The problem I see with free books is just that you really need something
 that says... this is WHY you, the contributor would put in this amount of
 effort here.

 With Wikipedia, I can contribute a word here, a sentence there, parse some
 grammar over there, fix a bad phrasing, add a source... all to seven
 articles and call it a day.

 A book takes an awful lot of effort.  And then I give it away free to the
 world.  Sorry I'm just not seeing that.

This explains perfectly well why wikibooks has not been working very
well from its beginning. However, it doesn't explain the decline of
admins in the last years someone mentioned earlier in this thread.

I was active a while in the german wikibooks, but eventually got
frustrated by the lack of interaction with others. You're working
alone on your book project, and all the satisfaction you get is from
the work you put in - no feedback, no discovering somebody has
improved your stuff while you were away, no discovery that someone has
ruined everything in your absence and now you have to fight for your
version... very peaceful and absolutely boring.

greetings,
elian

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[Foundation-l] FCForum Declaration: Sustainable Models for Creativity

2011-02-28 Thread Milos Rancic
I think WMF should endorse it. Catalan Wikipedia already did.

http://fcforum.net/sustainable-models-for-creativity/declaration

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[Foundation-l] New members of Language committee

2011-02-28 Thread Milos Rancic
I am glad to announce that Language committee is stronger for three
new members. By the time of getting their applications, the list is:

Ζαχαρίας Διακονικολάου (Zaharias Diakonikolau) (meta:User:ZaDiak)
* languages spoken: el, en-4, de-2, grc-2, pnt-1
* living in: Europe, Greece, Rhodes
* reason for inclusion: A couple of months ago Language committee
announced that it is searching for members from the [types of]
projects which don't have Wikipedia-like dynamics. Zaharias has passed
as an applicant from Wikiversity (he is admin at Beta Wikiversity and
bureaucrat at Greek Wikiversity). However, his qualifications go
further: he is actively working on creation, editing and promoting
projects in various Greek languages. Knowing that he is young, he will
be our long term investment, too.

Oliver Stegen]] (meta:User:Baba Tabita)
* languages spoken: de, en-4, sw-3 small style=color:gray;nl-1, fr-1/small
* living in: Africa, Kenya, Nairobi (from Europe, Germany)
* reason for inclusion: Oliver is a linguist who is working for SIL on
East African languages. We'll have one ultra-relevant expert in
LangCom thanks to Jon Harald Søby, one of the LangCom members, who met
Oliver in Nairobi.

Santhosh Thottingal]] (meta:User:Santhosh.thottingal)
* languages spoken: ml, hi-3, en-3, ta-2,
* living in: Asia, India, Chennai (Madras)
* reason for inclusion: Santhosh is a free software guru interested in
languages. He will help us in articulating projects for covering
language-related needs of Wikimedia projects.

I want to add one more point related to Santhosh. He has passed as a
LangCom member not because he is from India, but because he has
relevant expertise and right attitude. Although he speaks three Indian
languages, he has become a member of LangCom because he is a free
software guru interested in languages. Before Santhosh's application,
we would have been happy to see anyone with this qualification and
this attitude, no matter of location of birth or residence.

However, Bishakha's question and subsequent conversation helped, as it
gave impulse to Santhosh to submit the application. And that brings to
my mind that it would be good to pass the whole world periodically and
raise the geographical equality issue. And it is not a joke. That's
obviously giving people courage, or at least the idea, that they have
the same right to become members of any Wikimedia body, as any
Westerner has. Sometimes the qualifications won't be relevant for
particular position, sometimes they will.

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Re: [Foundation-l] New members of Language committee

2011-02-28 Thread James Alexander
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am glad to announce that Language committee is stronger for three
 new members. By the time of getting their applications, the list is:


Congratulations (or commiserations depending on your point of view I guess
:) ) to all the new members, it looks like a good group. Will all of them be
at the in person meeting coming up?

James
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[Foundation-l] The Signpost – Volume 7, Issue 9 – 28 February 2011

2011-02-28 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Newbies vs. patrollers; Indian statistics; brief news
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-28/News_and_notes

In the news: Egypt and Jordan likely candidates for Wikimedia office;
Sanger interview; brief news
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-28/In_the_news

Arbitration statistics: Arbitration Committee hearing fewer cases;
longer decision times
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-28/Arbitration_statistics

WikiProject report: In Tune with WikiProject Classical Music
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-28/WikiProject_report

Features and admins: The best of the week
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-28/Features_and_admins

Arbitration report: AUSC applications open; interim desysopping; two
pending cases
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-28/Arbitration_report

Technology report: HTML5 adopted but soon reverted; brief news
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-28/Technology_report


Single page view
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single

PDF version
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2011-02-28


http://identi.ca/wikisignpost / https://twitter.com/wikisignpost



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Wikipedia Signpost Staff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost

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[no subject]

2011-02-28 Thread Bence Damokos
Don�t be frigid, my sweet!.
http://naaldendraadborduuratelier.nl/links.php?omaSID=404

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Re: [Foundation-l] New members of Language committee

2011-02-28 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:48 AM, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:

  I am glad to announce that Language committee is stronger for three
  new members. By the time of getting their applications, the list is:
 
 
 Congratulations (or commiserations depending on your point of view I guess
 :) ) to all the new members, it looks like a good group. Will all of them
 be
 at the in person meeting coming up?

 Congratulations to all three new members - nice to see both Africa and Asia
in the fray.

And thanks for explaining the broader thinking behind the selections,
Millosh. Am always a bit hesitant to make such suggestions for fear they
will be (mis)read as pushing India's case, rather than making a larger point
about geography and representation (which is meaningful only if other
relevant criteria are met too, as happened in these cases).

Cheers
Bishakha
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