[Foundation-l] Movement roles notes on Meta
The movement roles working group met again yesterday, and the main meta pages are being updated as a result. One point of note -- Sue recently shared her long-form answers to some questions about the process (thank you!), which are worth reading: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_project/Sue_Gardner%27s_input Other responses to these questions are welcome. Sam. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] How to get past a decision that nobody can take
Hi, I personally enjoy the independence that each project has in the Wikimedia universe. Therefore, I've given much thought on wether I should write this email. Bun in the situation I will present below, I really don't know what more can be done according to the current policies in effect on my home wiki (ro.wikipedia). I ask your help in finding a path to follow. One of our users has created a page for tracking mistakes made by other users [1], which propted protests from other users, including myself [2]. Eventually, I asked for the deletion of the page at the Romanian equivalent of [[WP:AFD]] on 20th of February [3]. The rules for deleting the pages are very much the same as on en.wp (see [[:en:WP:NotEarly]]), however the user page rules are not quite the same as on en.wp. There is an ongoing debate on ro.wp on using en.wp rules when missing an equivalent policy. this was used by the user who created the page in his defense. On ro.wp it sometimes happens that decisions on deleting pages take much longer than a week, so I would expect a decision to be made sometime soon. However, this request is special because all the active sysops are either present in the page in question or were involved in the discussions about it, so it would be unfair of them to close it. What do you think the following steps should be? Should we call some of the other sysops from retirement? Should we appeal to someone from the arbcom on en.wp? Thanks, Strainu [1] http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilizator:Turbojet/Gre%C8%99eli [2] http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reclama%C8%9Bii#Utilizator:Turbojet [3] http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pagini_de_%C8%99ters#Utilizator:Turbojet.2FGre.C8.99eli ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] How to get past a decision that nobody can take
BTW, if the point is to conclude discussion in such state, you could delegate any person outside community to do the job. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] How to get past a decision that nobody can take
We had a somewhat similar problem recently in the Portuguese Wikipedia with a user page paroding several users (especially administrators), that was formatted as a blog[1][2]. Even though we have a clear policy in respect to the use of user pages, [3][4] deletion was only possible after a second nomination.[1] I think the only reason the second nomination was succesful is because we had a huge crisis last December, resulting in several advices from a Steward, including the deletion of that particular page [5]. My advice is to get community consensus if that sort of thing is admissable on user pages or not. User:GoEThe [1] http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:P%C3%A1ginas_para_eliminar/Usu%C3%A1rio_Discuss%C3%A3o:MachoCarioca/Esculhambares [2] http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:P%C3%A1ginas_para_eliminar/Usu%C3%A1rio_Discuss%C3%A3o:MachoCarioca/Esculhambares/1 [3] http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:O_que_a_wikipedia_n%C3%A3o_%C3%A9#A_Wikip.C3.A9dia_n.C3.A3o_.C3.A9_um_blog.2C_flog_ou_similar [4] http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:PU [5] http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Pedidos_de_opini%C3%A3o/Pedido_de_interven%C3%A7%C3%A3o#Conclus.C3.B5es ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation has been prosecution in HK / 維基媒體基金會在香港被起訴
The Oriental Press Group in Hong Kong prosecution the Wikimedia Foundation, see the news in their newspaper. *Translate by Google* Based in the United States in the online encyclopedia Wikipedia, was revealed in the last published article in the Oriental Press Group defamation. Oriental Press Group then take legal action, filed with the Hong Kong High Court, on the operation and management of Wikipedia, the company to take legal actions to prohibit defamation articles, and to the other party to pay compensation. As the Wikipedia, after receiving the complaint, did not respond to the allegations, the East was made to apply for a court to directly sentence the claim is allowed. Orient this application, High Court yesterday by the Court accepted, under the prohibition and immediate compensation orders awarded. As the amount of compensation will be decided by the Court of the Masters. The amount of compensation determined by the Master This case the plaintiff is the Oriental Press Group Limited, the defendant was the U.S. company Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.. Plaintiff filed last August, saying the defendant under the Wikipedia site, respectively, in April and May last year, published in two paragraphs, the contents constitute a defamation of the plaintiff. The plaintiff therefore requested the court order restraining the defendant continued to publish the relevant text, for monetary compensation to the plaintiff. The plaintiff shall be represented to the judge yesterday that the complaint served on the defendant to the plaintiff, the defendant did not submit documents to respond. The ruling in favor of this plaintiff's application for a summons, in the March 4 has been given to the defendant, the defendant has chosen not to respond, but also did not send people to attend the hearing yesterday. Application for the judge accepted the plaintiff, an order prohibits the publication of defamatory words involved, and damages to the plaintiff to the defendant. Plaintiff also requested the defendant to disclose the original text involved two hits, but the judge believes that this information will only be involved in determining the amount of compensation, it was decided by the Master processing. Case Number: HCA 1257/2010 維基媒體基金會在香港被東方報業集團起訴，詳情見該報社之新聞： 基地設於美國的網上百科全書「維基百科」，被揭發在去年刊載誹謗東方報業集團的文章。東方報業集團於是採取法律行動，入稟香港高等法院，對經營管理「維基百科」的公司採取法律行動，要求禁制有關誹謗文章，並要對方作出賠償。由於「維基百科」在收到訴狀後，並無對指控作出回應，東方遂向法庭申請，直接判其申索得直。東方此項申請，昨日獲高院原訟庭接納，即時頒下禁制及賠償令。至於賠償金額，則會交由聆案官法庭決定。 賠償金額由聆案官決定 本案原告為東方報業集團有限公司，被告則為美國公司Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.。原告於去年八月入稟，指被告轄下之「維基百科」網站，分別在去年四月及五月，刊登兩段文字，有關內容對原告構成誹謗。原告因此要求法庭頒令，禁制被告繼續發布有關文字，並向原告作金錢賠償。 原告之代表律師昨日向法官表示，原告把訴狀送達被告後，被告並無提交文件回應。而今次原告申請勝訴判決的傳票，亦已在3月4日送予被告，被告亦選擇不回應，而昨日亦沒派人出席聆訊。法官因此接納原告申請，頒令禁止發布涉案誹謗文字，並要被告向原告賠償。原告原本亦要求被告披露兩段涉案文字的點擊率，不過法官認為，此資料只涉及釐定賠償金額，故決定交由聆案官處理。 案件編號： HCA 1257/2010 Thank you for your attention. 多謝各位的注意，http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:%E9%A6%99%E6%B8%AF%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E4%BA%BA%E4%BD%88%E5%91%8A%E6%9D%BF#.E5.95.8F.EF.BC.9A.E9.97.9C.E6.96.BC.E7.B6.AD.E5.9F.BA.E7.99.BE.E7.A7.91.E7.B6.B2.E7.AB.99.E8.AA.B9.E8.AC.97.E6.9D.B1.E6.96.B9.E9.A0.88.E8.B3.A0.E5.84.9F.E4.BA.8B.E4.BB.B6 HW ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation has been prosecution in HK / 維基媒體基金會在香港被起訴
I doubt there is any way the court in question can enforce its ruling, which is probably why the WMF didn't bother responding. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation has been prosecution in HK / ç¶åºåªé«åºéæå¨é¦æ¸¯è¢«èµ·è¨´
I doubt there is any way the court in question can enforce its ruling, which is probably why the WMF didn't bother responding. For all we know we have servers in Hong Kong. This stuff can bite if someone is clever and aggressive enough; default judgments can be a nightmare; ever hear of sewer service? The process server throws the papers away but swears they were served... Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation has been prosecution in HK / ç¶åºåªé«åºéæå¨é¦æ¸¯è¢«èµ·è¨´
For all we know we have servers in Hong Kong. not that I'm aware of :) Domas ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation has been prosecution in HK / ç¶åŸºåª’體基金會在香港被起訴
On 25 March 2011 17:55, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: I doubt there is any way the court in question can enforce its ruling, which is probably why the WMF didn't bother responding. For all we know we have servers in Hong Kong. I think we know where we have servers... ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation has been prosecution in HK / 維基媒體基金會在香港被起訴
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt there is any way the court in question can enforce its ruling, which is probably why the WMF didn't bother responding. subscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l I am sort of curious as to what the substance of the defamation claim was. -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Google Books settlement
For anyone interested who hasn't already seen it, here's a link to Judge Chin's opinion rejecting the proposed settlement in the Google Books case: http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/cases/show.php?db=specialid=115 Newyorkbrad ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
