Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia Editor and Google Chrome

[Mono mium]

Really? That's never happened for me.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:29 PM, James Heilman  wrote:
> We need to make sure that people using Google Chrome are able to
> edit seamlessly. Currently this is not the case. Extra spaces are added. And
> when the "Cite" tool built into the browser is used it deletes text. Would
> love to see the foundation direct more resources to improving the editing
> tools. Not sure to whom this should be directed.
>
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> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
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[Foundation-l] Wikipedia Editor and Google Chrome

[James Heilman]

We need to make sure that people using Google Chrome are able to
edit seamlessly. Currently this is not the case. Extra spaces are added. And
when the "Cite" tool built into the browser is used it deletes text. Would
love to see the foundation direct more resources to improving the editing
tools. Not sure to whom this should be directed.

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MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
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[Foundation-l] The John Does’ First Amendment right to speak anonymously

[Fred Bauder]

More proceedings in the Colorado District Court case:

http://www.rcfp.org/newsitems/index.php?i=11906

"The Dendrite rule":

http://www.citizen.org/litigation/forms/cases/getlinkforcase.cfm?cID=116

"five factors":

http://www.rcfp.org/djlg/index.php?action=show_item&cat=LIB&tid=15

Fred




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[Foundation-l] IRC office hours with Sue Gardner, this Friday the 10th at 06:00 UTC

[Steven Walling]

Hi everyone,

Sorry that we sent out less than a week's notice, but I wanted to extend an
invitation to Sue's office hours this Friday the 10th, at 06:00 UTC.[1]
We're doing it at this time specifically to meet with Wikimedians in
Asia,[2] but the topic of discussion has not been set, so feel free to come
with things you're interested in hearing about.

Talk to you soon,

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1. Meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours
2. Conversion from UTC:
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Re: [Foundation-l] Incubator improvements

[Robin Pepermans]

Now that we're talking about it:
This is a prototype welcome page: <
http://robinpepermans.be/mw-dev/index.php?title=Wn/is>
It would be translatable of course (contrary to the current "wiki does not
exist"), see for example in Dutch: <
http://robinpepermans.be/mw-dev/index.php?title=Wn/is&uselang=nl>
It is adapted to the project and language, while the current page is a
standard text that is the same for all languages and projects.
The language names are from the CLDR extension which has recently been
enabled on Wikimedia wikis.

2011/6/7 Milos Rancic 

> On 06/07/2011 09:34 PM, Robin Pepermans wrote:
> > Milos Rancic said that I should announce this on foundation-l, so here it
> > is:
> >
> > I had written a MediaWiki extension specifically for Wikimedia Incubator.
> > It's now enabled, so users can set their test wiki preference, and there
> are
> > also recent changes per test wiki. For example, changes in the Kichwa
> > Wikipedia test: <
> >
> http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?limit=250&rc-testwiki-project=p&rc-testwiki-code=qug
> >>
> >
> > More features will be added later, e.g. a welcome portal for non-existent
> > projects that will hopefully in the future replace the current "wiki does
> > not exist" page.
>
> This is much more important than Robin values his own work. Incubator
> extension is the first step for a couple of important things:
>
> * "Wiki does not exist" is a message for very limited number of
> languages. For example, there is no Wikiversity in Serbian and by typing
> http://sr.wikiversity.org/ you will get "this wiki does not exist". At
> the other side, for example, we have a living Gheg Albanian community at
> Incubator, but by typing http://aln.wikipedia.org/ -- you will get DNS
> error. Thus, proper implementation would mean that if you type
> http://xyz.wikipedia.org/ -- where "xyz" is a valid ISO 639-3 code, you
> would get "Welcome. This is to be the site for a free encyclopedia in
> the XYZ language. If you speak XYZ then you can get started right now in
> building this particular Wikipedia!"
>
> * Projects inside of the Incubator won't have to wait for "sustainable
> activity" to get "their Wikipedia".
>
> * Languages with small population would be able to get some types of
> projects -- like Wiktionary and Wikibooks are -- inside of their
> Wikipedias. So, http://xyz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikibooks:something would
> have redirect from http://xyz.wiktionary.org/wiki/something.
>
> * Articles about languages on Wikipedias could have additional template:
> There is no Wikipedia in this language, but you can start it here!
>
> I think that those enhancements would back us into the days when we were
> welcoming new projects, as well as speakers of various languages would
> get appropriate tools and help for creating successful projects.
>
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Re: [Foundation-l] Incubator improvements

[Fajro]

Thanks!
This was really needed!

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Re: [Foundation-l] Incubator improvements

[Milos Rancic]

On 06/07/2011 09:34 PM, Robin Pepermans wrote:
> Milos Rancic said that I should announce this on foundation-l, so here it
> is:
> 
> I had written a MediaWiki extension specifically for Wikimedia Incubator.
> It's now enabled, so users can set their test wiki preference, and there are
> also recent changes per test wiki. For example, changes in the Kichwa
> Wikipedia test: <
> http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?limit=250&rc-testwiki-project=p&rc-testwiki-code=qug
>>
> 
> More features will be added later, e.g. a welcome portal for non-existent
> projects that will hopefully in the future replace the current "wiki does
> not exist" page.

This is much more important than Robin values his own work. Incubator
extension is the first step for a couple of important things:

* "Wiki does not exist" is a message for very limited number of
languages. For example, there is no Wikiversity in Serbian and by typing
http://sr.wikiversity.org/ you will get "this wiki does not exist". At
the other side, for example, we have a living Gheg Albanian community at
Incubator, but by typing http://aln.wikipedia.org/ -- you will get DNS
error. Thus, proper implementation would mean that if you type
http://xyz.wikipedia.org/ -- where "xyz" is a valid ISO 639-3 code, you
would get "Welcome. This is to be the site for a free encyclopedia in
the XYZ language. If you speak XYZ then you can get started right now in
building this particular Wikipedia!"

* Projects inside of the Incubator won't have to wait for "sustainable
activity" to get "their Wikipedia".

* Languages with small population would be able to get some types of
projects -- like Wiktionary and Wikibooks are -- inside of their
Wikipedias. So, http://xyz.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikibooks:something would
have redirect from http://xyz.wiktionary.org/wiki/something.

* Articles about languages on Wikipedias could have additional template:
There is no Wikipedia in this language, but you can start it here!

I think that those enhancements would back us into the days when we were
welcoming new projects, as well as speakers of various languages would
get appropriate tools and help for creating successful projects.

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[Foundation-l] Incubator improvements

[Robin Pepermans]

Hi,

Milos Rancic said that I should announce this on foundation-l, so here it
is:

I had written a MediaWiki extension specifically for Wikimedia Incubator.
It's now enabled, so users can set their test wiki preference, and there are
also recent changes per test wiki. For example, changes in the Kichwa
Wikipedia test: <
http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges?limit=250&rc-testwiki-project=p&rc-testwiki-code=qug
>

More features will be added later, e.g. a welcome portal for non-existent
projects that will hopefully in the future replace the current "wiki does
not exist" page.

Regards
Robin (User:SPQRobin)
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Re: [Foundation-l] OTRS

[Keegan Peterzell]

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Huib Laurens  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Almost a week later there has been no responds bij the Foundation nor a
> responds from the OTRS admins to this mailing nor in private.


Untrue regarding OTRS admins.  I, as an OTRS admin, concur with the
judgement of another OTRS admin who responded to your complaint on this list
the very day you posted your issue..  Copy/paste as follows...


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On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Huib Laurens  wrote:
> User Silverspoon publiced a e-mail I send to OTRS in a channel.
>
> This e-mail (http://demo.wickedway.nl/temp/SS%20temp.jpg) is a e-mail I
> sended to OTRS to release content. This e-mail was paste on pastebin to
> discuss in a public IRC channel (
> http://demo.wickedway.nl/temp/ss%20temp2.jpg),
>
> Silverspoon told me he had the information from user:FreakyFries. I tried
to
> make a complaint by Guillom, the OTRS admin and he says he doesn't give a
> fuck. (http://demo.wickedway.nl/temp/ss%20temp3.jpg)
>
> At this moment I believe my privacy has been abbused by linking me to a
> website in a private channel, I would like to see what the foundation
thinks
> about this since the person in charge thinks its perfectly normal to
publish
> private e-mails.

Knowing more about the specifics of the situation, I think what the
OTRS agent did was fine.  The OTRS agent did not share any personally
identifiable information; he just shared enough of the contents of the
e-mail to help process the ticket effectively.

While we do not like to reveal ticket information for no reason (and
like to keep the private information about the customer private), if
we need to reveal parts of it to others in order to process it and get
assistance, we can do that.

I don't see anything wrong with what happened here, and if you have
further issues or details, please direct them privately to the rest of
the OTRS admins at: volunteers-otrs [at] wikimedia.org OR otrs-admins
[at] lists [dot] wikimedia [dot] org.

Thanks,
Casey

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Re: [Foundation-l] OTRS

[Béria Lima]

Probably because they are still looking at this case (or finishing others).
After all, this is not the only claim of PP violation.
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*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer.***


2011/6/7 Huib Laurens 

> Yes I did. There has been no responds from them so far.
>
> 2011/6/7, Thomas Dalton :
>  > On 7 June 2011 11:17, Huib Laurens  wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Almost a week later there has been no responds bij the Foundation nor a
> >> responds from the OTRS admins to this mailing nor in private.
> >>
> >> At this moment I'm starting to believe the Foundation and the OTRS
> admin's
> >> doens't care at all about this. Are we really going to accept this kind
> of
> >> behavior from the people that communicate for Wikimedia to people and
> >> companies mailing to Wikimedia?
> >
> > Have you contacted the Ombudsman committee as I suggested? It's their
> > job to handle complaints about possible breaches of the privacy
> > policy. It's rare to get a satisfactory response to complaints on this
> > mailing list. It's not really what it's here for.
> >
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> Kind regards,
>
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Re: [Foundation-l] OTRS

[Huib Laurens]

Yes I did. There has been no responds from them so far.

2011/6/7, Thomas Dalton :
> On 7 June 2011 11:17, Huib Laurens  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Almost a week later there has been no responds bij the Foundation nor a
>> responds from the OTRS admins to this mailing nor in private.
>>
>> At this moment I'm starting to believe the Foundation and the OTRS admin's
>> doens't care at all about this. Are we really going to accept this kind of
>> behavior from the people that communicate for Wikimedia to people and
>> companies mailing to Wikimedia?
>
> Have you contacted the Ombudsman committee as I suggested? It's their
> job to handle complaints about possible breaches of the privacy
> policy. It's rare to get a satisfactory response to complaints on this
> mailing list. It's not really what it's here for.
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Kind regards,

Huib Laurens
WickedWay.nl

Webhosting the wicked way.

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Re: [Foundation-l] OTRS

[Thomas Dalton]

On 7 June 2011 11:17, Huib Laurens  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Almost a week later there has been no responds bij the Foundation nor a
> responds from the OTRS admins to this mailing nor in private.
>
> At this moment I'm starting to believe the Foundation and the OTRS admin's
> doens't care at all about this. Are we really going to accept this kind of
> behavior from the people that communicate for Wikimedia to people and
> companies mailing to Wikimedia?

Have you contacted the Ombudsman committee as I suggested? It's their
job to handle complaints about possible breaches of the privacy
policy. It's rare to get a satisfactory response to complaints on this
mailing list. It's not really what it's here for.

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Re: [Foundation-l] OTRS

[Huib Laurens]

Hello,

Almost a week later there has been no responds bij the Foundation nor a
responds from the OTRS admins to this mailing nor in private.

At this moment I'm starting to believe the Foundation and the OTRS admin's
doens't care at all about this. Are we really going to accept this kind of
behavior from the people that communicate for Wikimedia to people and
companies mailing to Wikimedia?

Best,

Huib Laurens
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