Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors
Actually, do we have somewhere a concise page with a list of say ten most urgent needs we need money for? Smth a banner can link to? Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
Dear all; Bosnia's top cultural institutions[1] (National Museum, Historical Museum, National Gallery) and the National Library which was burnt in 1992, are closing their doors for funding disputes. This is a disaster for the spreading of human knowledge, and I don't see any blog post in the Wikimedia blog. Are you so worried and biased with the US bills? Imagine the WMF reaction if Library of Congress closes. Regards, emijrp [1] http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=144755322 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
On 7 January 2012 13:01, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all; Bosnia's top cultural institutions[1] (National Museum, Historical Museum, National Gallery) and the National Library which was burnt in 1992, are closing their doors for funding disputes. This is a disaster for the spreading of human knowledge, and I don't see any blog post in the Wikimedia blog. Are you so worried and biased with the US bills? Imagine the WMF reaction if Library of Congress closes. Well lets face it the LOC and the Bosnian National Library are not really in the same league. In any case is there any particular reason to think that the funding disputes wont eventually be sorted out? -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors
Actually, the initiative of Article Feedback Tool is going pretty much into this direction, asking people (readers) to participate in a way they like and ultimately also making a path to make them contributors. Kind regards Ziko http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Article_feedback/Version_5 2012/1/7 Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru: Actually, do we have somewhere a concise page with a list of say ten most urgent needs we need money for? Smth a banner can link to? Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- --- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland dr. Ziko van Dijk, voorzitter http://wmnederland.nl/ --- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific
Hey John. Not sure we why at WMC should be interested? Can you explain further... James Heilman Wikimedia Canada On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:11 AM, foundation-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.orgwrote: Send foundation-l mailing list submissions to foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to foundation-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at foundation-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of foundation-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Spanish website blocking law implemented (emijrp) 2. Re: the limits for fundraising. Was Blnk tag jokes are now obsolete. (Thomas Dalton) 3. Reminder: IRC office hours with the WMF features team, Jan. 4th 2012 (Steven Walling) 4. Re: Spanish website blocking law implemented (Kim Bruning) 5. Re: Spanish website blocking law implemented (Christophe Henner) 6. Re: Spanish website blocking law implemented (Kim Bruning) 7. Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific Partnership (John Vandenberg) 8. Re: A fundraiser for editors (Yaroslav M. Blanter) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:02:32 +0100 From: emijrp emi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Spanish website blocking law implemented To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: capgala73se0qbzbbdsvokfk-3q_ctuxju4uxz5frttkmshk...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://gigaom.com/2012/01/04/how-spains-version-of-sopa-is-setting-the-web-on-fire/ 2012/1/4 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com emijrp, 04/01/2012 18:59: With this law, a special team in the Ministry of Culture of Spain can block any (for-profit or non-profit) website, from Spain or overseas, that _links_ to copyrighted works. Including Google, Wikipedia or whatever. Without a judge. That's entirely different! For further details, search for an analysis. The slashdot post links end up to a 6 months old WSJ article, is there some more recent one you recommend? (Also Spanish.) Thanks, Nemo ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:13:30 + From: Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] the limits for fundraising. Was Blnk tag jokes are now obsolete. To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: caltqcce67b9xz5ofpfj1amangegjjoqwuzbrdyf2hzgeq84...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 4 January 2012 16:24, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Check the IP history; Jan-Bart added them ;p Now I'm on an actual computer and not trying to go through page histories on my phone, I've taken a closer look. The bit about being truthful was in the initial version. The other bit is the result of edits from several people (including me, although I'm not sure any of my wording survived the process). -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:48:03 -0800 From: Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org Subject: [Foundation-l] Reminder: IRC office hours with the WMF featuresteam, Jan. 4th 2012 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: CAMryOMW11Gy7EPA=6iUMQsGPe4jmTkGziD8PD=Vgm9Bk=wc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Reminder that this is happening at 23:00 in #wikimedia-office. -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:58 AM Subject: IRC office hours with the WMF features team, Jan. 4th 2012 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Hey everyone, Since folks have been asking about it, I wanted to announce that the features development team at the Wikimedia Foundation will be holding an office hours (in #wikimedia-office) about the general past, present, and future of MediaWiki features being worked on here at the WMF. This will be on January 4th, 2012 at 23:00 UTC. Documentation is on Meta for time conversion and IRC how-tos.[1] -- Steven Walling Community Organizer at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org 1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours -- Steven Walling Community Organizer at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 5 Jan
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
It is sure that LOC is in the top priorities for Americans, and the BNL for Serbians, don't you think so? Thanks for showing your patent chauvinism. Funding disputes can be sorted out in the same fashion SOPA disputes, if agents work to solve them and show interest. We can't say we care about all human knowledge when we give priority to cases depending on our birthplace. 2012/1/7 geni geni...@gmail.com On 7 January 2012 13:01, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all; Bosnia's top cultural institutions[1] (National Museum, Historical Museum, National Gallery) and the National Library which was burnt in 1992, are closing their doors for funding disputes. This is a disaster for the spreading of human knowledge, and I don't see any blog post in the Wikimedia blog. Are you so worried and biased with the US bills? Imagine the WMF reaction if Library of Congress closes. Well lets face it the LOC and the Bosnian National Library are not really in the same league. In any case is there any particular reason to think that the funding disputes wont eventually be sorted out? -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific
On 7 January 2012 07:47, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey John. Not sure we why at WMC should be interested? Can you explain further... James Heilman Wikimedia Canada I'm not John, but it's because of the copyright provisions. If Canada signs onto the Trans Pacific Partnership, it would need to redo its copyright legislation to conform with it, which would likely extend Canadian copyright another 20 years, plus putting in place new measures around enforcement and new infringement penalties. http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6225/125/ Thanks, Sue ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Wikizine - Anno Domini MMXII Week II Number CXXXI
____ _ _ _ _ / / /\ \ \(_)| | __(_) (_) _ _____ \ \/ \/ /| || |/ /| ||_ /| || '_ \ / _ \ \ /\ / | ||| | / / | || | | || __/ \/ \/ |_||_|\_\|_|/___||_||_| |_| \___| .org Anno Domini MMXII Week II Number CXXXI An independent internal news bulletin for the members of the Wikimedia community === Foundation === [Terms Of Use] - On websites the Terms of Use are what most of us frequently indicate to agree with but never reed. Also Wikipedia has a Terms of Use. A Terms of use for Wikipedia came only to existence years after its founding and remained very basic. Until now. In original Wikimedia style a new Terms Of use have been written by the community at Meta. It is more extensive then the current but it remains, for a Terms of Use, relative short and very readable. The WMF board still needs to approve it before it can replaces the current Terms of Use. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/31/terms-of-use/ http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use -- New Terms of Use (final community draft) [The Annual Fundraiser] - Despite the economic problems of the world - the Wikimedia Foundation did it again. The goal is every year higher but the donations follow. The WMF has raised the new record amount of 20 million US dollar in the fundraiser that just now ended. The miracle of the WMF business model to just ask for money keeps working. But even a miracle needs some help. Last year the WMF spend 1,8 USD $ on fundraising. The operating budget of the WMF will increase in spending in 2011-12 compared with 2010-11 with $9.8 million. 28.3 million USD will be the current budget. The gap between the raised amount and the budget is closed by several grants and continuous donations. 44% of the budget will go to running the actual web-infrastructure. 24% will go to management, finance and administration. A tiny fraction smaller, 23% of the budget, is under the label Other programs. The Community department and the Global Development department falls under that slice. The rest are fundraising costs. Best read the annual plan if you wish to know more. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/01/02/wikimedia-fundraiser-concludes-with-record-breaking-donations/ http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2011-2012_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers [Grant of $3.6 Million] - The Stanton Foundation -, a long term funder of the WMF, donated $3.6 million USD (2,61 Million EUR) to the Wikimedia Foundation. This is the largest grant ever received by the WMF. http://tinyurl.com/3qv5grb === Technical news === [https] - It was already possible to login to the projects by means of a secure connection but that was by means of a https://secure.wikimedia.org; -type of link. Now the usable links work. Just add the s to the protocol. This works on all Wikimedia wikis. Using https is not yet the default option when you login. If you wish to use it you need to enter it manually. https://en.wikipedia.org [Article Feedback] - A new article feedback system is in testing at EN Wikipedia. A previous version used a star-system the the reader could give to articles. The new one uses a different approach. It does not asks to give points but the give real textual reader feedback. More like a very easy comment function like on blogs and news sites. Only are the comments not posted. Currently the collected data is only for testing and not public. The idea is that editors will be able to assess the feedback in the future. The test runs on limited number of articles on EN Wikipedia. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/20/a-new-way-to-contribute-to-wikipedia/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29 -- example article with the new feedback function === Movement === [Al Jazeera] - The media company Al Jazeera, mostly know for its television stations, is releasing a large part of the pictures and video's the make under a Creative Commons license (CC BY 3.0). This is very, very great news. Wikinews and Wikipedia now have access to recent quality material for there articles about topics that would be nearly impossible otherwise. http://cc.aljazeera.net/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/aljazeeraenglish/sets/ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Files_from_Al_Jazeera === Media === [Wikipedia Vs. Britannica] - It is not original but always interesting to read; compare the articles of Wikipedia with those of Britannica and other classic sources by academics. The reaserch is published in the peer-reviewed medical journal Psychological Medicine. To read the actual article you can buy the article for $45 or rent it for $5,99. Luckily the Singpost is not so silly. http://tinyurl.com/6mzosac -- free read
Re: [Foundation-l] just wondering, are we going to take down en.wikipedia.org?
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-01-04/tech/30586955_1_zynga-sopa-paypal 2011/12/12 emijrp emi...@gmail.com ANDDD HERE WE GO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Request_for_Comment:_SOPA_and_a_strike 2011/10/27 Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.com Hi! we recently did some practice on italian wikipedia, are we going to protest IP legislation in US by taking down English Wikipedia? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/10/disastrous-ip-legislation-back-%E2%80%93-and-it%E2%80%99s-worse-ever Domas ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
On 7 January 2012 16:53, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: It is sure that LOC is in the top priorities for Americans, and the BNL for Serbians, don't you think so? Thanks for showing your patent chauvinism. Never ever imply that I am American again. Funding disputes can be sorted out in the same fashion SOPA disputes, if agents work to solve them and show interest. We are not interested in sorting out the SOPA dispute. We want to stop SOPA happening. Different ballgame We can't say we care about all human knowledge when we give priority to cases depending on our birthplace. Yes and I'm British. The reality is that museums and libraries close all the time for various reasons. There isn't much we can do about it. The National and University Library of Bosnia and Herzegovina had 1.5 million books when it was largely destroyed in 1992. The British Library has just under 14 million books and 150 million documents total. The library of congress is much the same. So as I said slightly different league, -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
Yes and I'm British. The reality is that museums and libraries close all the time for various reasons. There isn't much we can do about it. Well, just in this case a GLAM/GLAM-like initiative could help enormously, taking the museum expositions online. The problem is that AFAIR we do not have a Bosnian Chapter, and I doubt we have anyone residing in Saraevo to sort out the issues. Though it might be not a bad investment of WMF funds if someone agrees to take a lead. Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
2012/1/7 geni geni...@gmail.com: We can't say we care about all human knowledge when we give priority to cases depending on our birthplace. Yes and I'm British. The reality is that museums and libraries close all the time for various reasons. There isn't much we can do about it. The National and University Library of Bosnia and Herzegovina had 1.5 million books when it was largely destroyed in 1992. The British Library has just under 14 million books and 150 million documents total. The library of congress is much the same. So as I said slightly different league, That's an awful thing to say, but so specific to representatives of anglo-saxon culture (sic!). Why don't you think of it this way: The National and University Library of Bosnia and Herzegovina had X million books from Bosnian authors. How many does the British Library has? I'm guessing much less than X. Strainu ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
On 7 January 2012 16:53, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: It is sure that LOC is in the top priorities for Americans, and the BNL for Serbians, don't you think so? Thanks for showing your patent chauvinism. Funding disputes can be sorted out in the same fashion SOPA disputes, if agents work to solve them and show interest. We can't say we care about all human knowledge when we give priority to cases depending on our birthplace. Ignoring Geni for the moment, it's clearly a very bad thing to happen. Is there something we can meaningfully do to help in this case? Are there groups working on the problem we can lend a hand or our good name to? - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
I'm struggling to see *why* people are arguing over whose cultural institution is larger/more important than the other's. Surely the point, as Yaroslav suggests, is to see how the WMF might be able to get involved ? Alex 2012/1/7 Strainu strain...@gmail.com 2012/1/7 geni geni...@gmail.com: We can't say we care about all human knowledge when we give priority to cases depending on our birthplace. Yes and I'm British. The reality is that museums and libraries close all the time for various reasons. There isn't much we can do about it. The National and University Library of Bosnia and Herzegovina had 1.5 million books when it was largely destroyed in 1992. The British Library has just under 14 million books and 150 million documents total. The library of congress is much the same. So as I said slightly different league, That's an awful thing to say, but so specific to representatives of anglo-saxon culture (sic!). Why don't you think of it this way: The National and University Library of Bosnia and Herzegovina had X million books from Bosnian authors. How many does the British Library has? I'm guessing much less than X. Strainu ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
2012/1/7 geni geni...@gmail.com On 7 January 2012 16:53, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: It is sure that LOC is in the top priorities for Americans, and the BNL for Serbians, don't you think so? Thanks for showing your patent chauvinism. Never ever imply that I am American again. I'm not implying that you are American. I'm just saying that you are an ignorant chauvinist. The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a disaster. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 9:12 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not implying that you are American. I'm just saying that you are an ignorant chauvinist. And there ends my subscription to Foundation-L. -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a disaster. Yes, it is. So what's the game plan? - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
The WMF isn't telepathic, at least to the best of my knowledge. Before you sent this did you have any reason to believe that the WMF was already aware of the situation and its significance? If not - this email chain probably would have been more likely to be productive if your first email was just This is kind of a big deal and I don't see any blog post up about it yet, can I write one? I've always found that all other things being equal, people are much more likely to want to assist me if I'm not already assuming that their actions are malicious. Kevin Gorman User:Kgorman-ucb On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:01 AM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all; Bosnia's top cultural institutions[1] (National Museum, Historical Museum, National Gallery) and the National Library which was burnt in 1992, are closing their doors for funding disputes. This is a disaster for the spreading of human knowledge, and I don't see any blog post in the Wikimedia blog. Are you so worried and biased with the US bills? Imagine the WMF reaction if Library of Congress closes. Regards, emijrp [1] http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=144755322 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
Thanks Kevin :) Yes, I am a professional librarian who follows such things (and listens to NPR!) and I somehow missed this story. I don't think it is a well known or reported on event. Thank you for bringing it to everyone's attention, it sounds like a tragedy. Following David, if anyone has suggested actions to take that would be great. -- phoebe On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Kevin Gorman kgor...@gmail.com wrote: The WMF isn't telepathic, at least to the best of my knowledge. Before you sent this did you have any reason to believe that the WMF was already aware of the situation and its significance? If not - this email chain probably would have been more likely to be productive if your first email was just This is kind of a big deal and I don't see any blog post up about it yet, can I write one? I've always found that all other things being equal, people are much more likely to want to assist me if I'm not already assuming that their actions are malicious. Kevin Gorman User:Kgorman-ucb On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:01 AM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all; Bosnia's top cultural institutions[1] (National Museum, Historical Museum, National Gallery) and the National Library which was burnt in 1992, are closing their doors for funding disputes. This is a disaster for the spreading of human knowledge, and I don't see any blog post in the Wikimedia blog. Are you so worried and biased with the US bills? Imagine the WMF reaction if Library of Congress closes. Regards, emijrp [1] http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=144755322 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
2012/1/7 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a disaster. Yes, it is. So what's the game plan? I'm not sure. If the WMF goals are to collect/preserve/disseminate educational content, they can start with the holdings in endangered cultural institutions. It is not my work, but some suggestions, from low to high involvement: * blog post exposing the events * a call to the museums, showing that we are concerned * offering wikimedia projects to host any materials they want to give * marathon to create related articles * organize a Wiki Invades... to take photos and notes of the collections * wikipedian in residence and put some money to fund some activities * any other high profile partnership And read international news related to our long-term goals. Regards, emijrp ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 22:13:58 +0100, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/7 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a disaster. Yes, it is. So what's the game plan? I'm not sure. If the WMF goals are to collect/preserve/disseminate educational content, they can start with the holdings in endangered cultural institutions. It is not my work, but some suggestions, from low to high involvement: * blog post exposing the events * a call to the museums, showing that we are concerned * offering wikimedia projects to host any materials they want to give * marathon to create related articles * organize a Wiki Invades... to take photos and notes of the collections * wikipedian in residence and put some money to fund some activities * any other high profile partnership And read international news related to our long-term goals. Regards, emijrp May be checking with WM Serbia (I am not sure they can do anything, but it would be good to know) and leaving a message on Serbian Wikipedia asking for advise/clarification/actions. Everybody can leave this message, but probably the most efficient would be to find someone who speaks Serbian. Cheers Yaroslav ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
On 7 January 2012 21:13, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure. If the WMF goals are to collect/preserve/disseminate educational content, they can start with the holdings in endangered cultural institutions. It is not my work, but some suggestions, from low to high involvement: * blog post exposing the events * a call to the museums, showing that we are concerned * offering wikimedia projects to host any materials they want to give * marathon to create related articles * organize a Wiki Invades... to take photos and notes of the collections * wikipedian in residence and put some money to fund some activities * any other high profile partnership You realise that having raised it, you're the volunteer who gets to do the coordination and heavy lifting ;-) Are there any nearby local Wikimedia chapters/groups or similar groups (CC, librarians, etc) reading this who can help? And read international news related to our long-term goals. This was the very first I'd heard of it, I glance at the news ... so thanks for alerting us :-) I see it's hit the news big time now, e.g. http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Bosnian-closure-threatened-museum-gets-reprieve-2443605.php and 185 similar articles on Google News ... - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
Although the problem has not been solved, it appears that it has at least been staved off: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9S3I7DO1.htm Kevin Gorman User:Kgorman-UCB ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 00:36, Kevin Gorman kgor...@gmail.com wrote: Although the problem has not been solved, it appears that it has at least been staved off: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9S3I7DO1.htm Obviously, cultural institutions are in bad situation and not just in Bosnia, but in the whole region, at least. However, I think that this is a kind of hard move to raise awareness about the problem. Besides that, there are no Wikimedia goals in any kind of structural help to GLAM institutions from the region. If they are aware of free knowledge, they usually oppose to it, or, at best, they are not able to articulate sensible decision because of their internal problems. Every involvement should be carefully analyzed and just clearly knowledge-liberating projects should be supported. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
On 7 January 2012 21:30, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: You realise that having raised it, you're the volunteer who gets to do the coordination and heavy lifting ;-) Are there any nearby local Wikimedia chapters/groups or similar groups (CC, librarians, etc) reading this who can help? Wikimedia Serbia. I'm sure you see the problem. Wikimedia Macedonia isn't much of an improvement. Beyond that there is Hungary but I understand there may be some historic issues. I guess that would leave us with Italy and there is a fair bit of water in the way. For most Wikipedians bosnia-herzegovina is a far away country of which we know little and we need to be honest about that. And read international news related to our long-term goals. This was the very first I'd heard of it, I glance at the news ... so thanks for alerting us :-) It made it to the front page of the BBC news website. -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 01:25:33 +0400 From: Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: fd4d5a6d2d4cf1db823bfb1df349c...@mccme.ru Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 22:13:58 +0100, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/7 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a disaster. Yes, it is. So what's the game plan? I'm not sure. If the WMF goals are to collect/preserve/disseminate educational content, they can start with the holdings in endangered cultural institutions. It is not my work, but some suggestions, from low to high involvement: * blog post exposing the events * a call to the museums, showing that we are concerned * offering wikimedia projects to host any materials they want to give * marathon to create related articles * organize a Wiki Invades... to take photos and notes of the collections * wikipedian in residence and put some money to fund some activities * any other high profile partnership And read international news related to our long-term goals. Regards, emijrp May be checking with WM Serbia (I am not sure they can do anything, but it would be good to know) and leaving a message on Serbian Wikipedia asking for advise/clarification/actions. Everybody can leave this message, but probably the most efficient would be to find someone who speaks Serbian. Cheers Yaroslav I might just be a crypto-American chauvinist (and really, that sort of inflammatory message is completely unnecessary on this list), so I apologise for any ignorance on the situation, but would Wikimedia Serbia really be the best organisation to help out here. My understanding is that Bosnia-Serbia relations are still very... delicate... and a Serbian organisation coming in to help out with Bosnian cultural artefacts, no matter how well meaning, might not get the most enthusiastic of receptions. Cheers, Craig ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Bosnia's Top Cultural Institutions Shutting Down
On 7 January 2012 20:12, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not implying that you are American. I'm just saying that you are an ignorant chauvinist. Oh no nothing so nice I'm afraid. I'm a person who takes a genuinely internationalist view. The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a disaster. How much did you care when Birmingham's Museum of Science and Industry closed? Cold hard maths says that the Bosnian institutions are of only limited international significance. The fact that the English Wikipedia articles are not only short but lack interlanguage links to any other languages including members of the south slavic diasystem particularly doesn't look good. But even if we accept them as first rank institutions that we really should care about, the funding issues appear to involve a bunch of local political and ethnic issues that it is unlikely that anyone at the foundation really understands. So trying to get involved would first involve understanding what is actually going on which we don't really have the resources to do. -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Moderation
This is well beyond acceptable discussion, and should draw attention from the mysterious and rarely seen list moderators. On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 3:12 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/1/7 geni geni...@gmail.com On 7 January 2012 16:53, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: It is sure that LOC is in the top priorities for Americans, and the BNL for Serbians, don't you think so? Thanks for showing your patent chauvinism. Never ever imply that I am American again. I'm not implying that you are American. I'm just saying that you are an ignorant chauvinist. The Historical Museum of Bosnia and Herzegovina holds 400,000 artifacts. Any National Cultural Institution closing is a disaster. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Canadian consultation on Trans Pacific
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 2:47 AM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey John. Not sure we why at WMC should be interested? Can you explain further... Why wouldnt WMC be interested in changes to laws in Canada that reduce free cultural exchange? Michael Geist does a great job of explaining it. http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6225/125/ Canada is one of the last remaining bastians against the US-led IP reforms occurring across the world. normalising at 70pma isnt the objective. As soon as all major nations are 70pma, we'll see a higher number adopted by some countries, and the other nations will be forced to normal again, at a higher number. From a copyright perspective, Canada *is* a better hosting location for Wikimedia projects (as opposed to US, at least). We should fight to protect that, so they have a good place to go if the US environment becomes a problem. See also this thread http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-August/004080.html -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
