Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
Oh, that discussion again. Try harder, German style http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_%E2%80%93_Die_freie_Enzyklop%C3%A4die_1269203954464.png http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_Diskussion:Hauptseite/alt3diff=prevoldid=72174091 2012/2/7 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Bad_choice_of_featured_article is pretty good reading. MZMcBride ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
On 7 February 2012 04:49, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Bad_choice_of_featured_article is pretty good reading. The complaints usually sums as 'hey, great work on that article, unfortunately, I am a bit uncomfortable with subject at hand, so let's best not celebrate your contributions'. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
On 07/02/12 22:13, Svip wrote: On 7 February 2012 04:49, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Bad_choice_of_featured_article is pretty good reading. The complaints usually sums as 'hey, great work on that article, unfortunately, I am a bit uncomfortable with subject at hand, so let's best not celebrate your contributions'. Some FAs should never be shown on the main page. Nothing in the FA criteria says anything about the subject of the article: such as whether the subject is of broad interest or has educational merit. Such criteria should be considered for choosing articles to show on the main page. The main page should show the best of Wikipedia, not the ugliest loopholes in its inclusion criteria. I was involved in some deletion debates in 2002 and 2003. Nobody knew at the time that if we said OK, let's allow this then some day the fancruft we were allowing would be featured on the main page, with the only criteria being that a fan puts enough effort into their style and citations. -- Tim Starling ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
Some FAs should never be shown on the main page. Nothing in the FA criteria says anything about the subject of the article: such as whether the subject is of broad interest or has educational merit. Such criteria should be considered for choosing articles to show on the main page. The main page should show the best of Wikipedia, not the ugliest loopholes in its inclusion criteria. I was involved in some deletion debates in 2002 and 2003. Nobody knew at the time that if we said OK, let's allow this then some day the fancruft we were allowing would be featured on the main page, with the only criteria being that a fan puts enough effort into their style and citations. -- Tim Starling My attention was drawn to this issue only after I had just watched, Miss Teacher Bangs a Boy It was so funny and good. And very informative. All cops, parents, teachers, and especially young boys, should watch it. Colorado, for some reason, has been the scene of several of these incidents. Not that South Park has anything to do with Colorado, of course. Casting aside the infantile slogan, Wikipedia is not censored, I think having the pilot of South Park on the Main Page is quite appropriate; the subject is significant. Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
2012/2/7 Svip svi...@gmail.com: On 7 February 2012 04:49, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Bad_choice_of_featured_article is pretty good reading. The complaints usually sums as 'hey, great work on that article, unfortunately, I am a bit uncomfortable with subject at hand, so let's best not celebrate your contributions'. Actually, the English Wikipedia's Featured Article Director has stated himself that some articles will not be featured on the main page (although he prefers to keep that list short and it currently consists only of the article Jenna Jameson): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/archive25#Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED_and_the_Main_Page ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
2012/2/7 HaeB haebw...@gmail.com 2012/2/7 Svip svi...@gmail.com: On 7 February 2012 04:49, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Bad_choice_of_featured_article is pretty good reading. The complaints usually sums as 'hey, great work on that article, unfortunately, I am a bit uncomfortable with subject at hand, so let's best not celebrate your contributions'. Actually, the English Wikipedia's Featured Article Director What is that? has stated himself Why are not that decissions taken under community consensus? that some articles will not be featured on the main page (although he prefers to keep that list short and it currently consists only of the article Jenna Jameson): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/archive25#Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED_and_the_Main_Page I read here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contact_us that Wikipedia has no editorial board. Why is there a person deciding what can't be shown in the main page? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:50 AM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/2/7 HaeB haebw...@gmail.com Actually, the English Wikipedia's Featured Article Director What is that? has stated himself Why are not that decissions taken under community consensus? that some articles will not be featured on the main page (although he prefers to keep that list short and it currently consists only of the article Jenna Jameson): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/archive25#Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED_and_the_Main_Page I read here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contact_us that Wikipedia has no editorial board. Why is there a person deciding what can't be shown in the main page? There is currently an RfC on both the nature and occupancy of the role. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_articles/2012_RfC_on_FA_leadership Mike ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Facebook Group re pornography on Wikipedia
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:57 PM, M. Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote: So yes, lots of people think what we're doing is wrong, but so what? You can never please anybody. That is why you need to choose a set of principles and stick with them. At least that way, when people don't like what you're doing, you can point to your principles and say Hey, we've always been this way and you get credibility from having had the same policy or position all along. Only if you state what your policy or position actually is. What is the principle? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
On Feb 7, 2012 1:50 PM, emijrp emi...@gmail.com wrote: Why are not that decissions taken under community consensus? that some articles will not be featured on the main page (although he prefers to keep that list short and it currently consists only of the article Jenna Jameson): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/archive25#Wikipedia:NOTCENSORED_and_the_Main_Page I read here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contact_us that Wikipedia has no editorial board. Why is there a person deciding what can't be shown in the main page? He's been doing it for years and has never screwed up badly enough for the community to take the job away from him. It's as simple as that. The Wikipedia community can be uncharacteristically pragmatic at times! ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
On 7 February 2012 17:03, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: He's been doing it for years and has never screwed up badly enough for the community to take the job away from him. It's as simple as that. The Wikipedia community can be uncharacteristically pragmatic at times! I note that even the front-page featuring of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gropecunt_Lane made almost no impact in the outside world. - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
On 7 February 2012 17:03, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: He's been doing it for years and has never screwed up badly enough for the community to take the job away from him. It's as simple as that. The Wikipedia community can be uncharacteristically pragmatic at times! I note that even the front-page featuring of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gropecunt_Lane made almost no impact in the outside world. - d. Yet one cannot see in the dark... Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Casting aside the infantile slogan, Wikipedia is not censored, I think having the pilot of South Park on the Main Page is quite appropriate; the subject is significant. Fred Really, It's not that much different than the Simpson episodes there have been on the MP, Just this one has a more adultish name attached to it... ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Cartman Gets an Anal Probe English Wikipedia's featured article today
On 08/02/12 09:09, K. Peachey wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Casting aside the infantile slogan, Wikipedia is not censored, I think having the pilot of South Park on the Main Page is quite appropriate; the subject is significant. Fred Really, It's not that much different than the Simpson episodes there have been on the MP, Just this one has a more adultish name attached to it... I also opposed the Simpsons features, for much the same reason. -- Tim Starling ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 8, Issue 06 -- 06 February 2012
News and notes: The Foundation visits Tunisia, analyzes donors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-02-06/News_and_notes In the news: Leading scholar hails Wikipedia, historians urged to contribute while PR pros remain shunned http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-02-06/In_the_news Discussion report: Discussion swarms around Templates for deletion and returning editors of colourful pasts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-02-06/Discussion_report WikiProject report: The Eye of the Storm: WikiProject Tropical Cyclones http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-02-06/WikiProject_report Featured content: Talking architechture with MrPanyGoff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-02-06/Featured_content Arbitration report: Four open cases, final decision in Muhammad images, Betacommand 3 near closure http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-02-06/Arbitration_report Technology report: October's coding challenge: results now in; progress on 1.19 steady; and why for a while interwiki links were no more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-02-06/Technology_report Single page view http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single PDF version http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-02-06 http://identi.ca/wikisignpost / https://twitter.com/wikisignpost -- Wikipedia Signpost Staff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost ___ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Foundation-L, the public mailing list about the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects. For more information about Foundation-L: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Call for votes! Steward elections 2012
Hello everyone, I am pleased to announce the beginning of the voting of steward elections 2012 [1]. Eligible voters are now encouraged to give their valuable votes to elect new stewards this year. To find out more about voter eligibility, please take a look on our guidelines page. [2] Vote page will remain open to vote until February 27 2012, 23:59 (UTC). This year, we have made some modifications so it will be easier for voters to vote compared to the last years. You just have to follow the following steps. - Click on the big gray vote button on the vote page, a box will appear; - Select your vote (yes/no/neutral), and write your comments (if you have any) in the comment box; - And click vote on that box and it will save your vote automatically. Additionally, we are using template and bot so it will be easy to check the votes and verify the eligible ones. This year, we are also arranging the confirmation of existing stewards [3], so you are also welcome to give your valuable comments/feedback about their works. Confirmations are a good opportunity to check if we are still happy with our current stewards. So please speak your voice there. if you have any queries related to anything about to the election, you can ask us on the talk page [4]. You are also free to poke us on IRC channel #wikimedia-stewards-elections. We hope you will participate as soon as possible to speak your opinion and make this year's election a successful one (as you did in past). Please feel free to forward this e-mail to any other lists if you think it will be useful. :-) Regards, Tanvir Rahman Wikitanvir on Wikimedia (On behalf of the Election Committee.) [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2012 [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections_2012/Guidelines [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Confirm/2012/en [4] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Stewards/Elections_2012 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Eli Manning is a sporting MVP, and TMZ.com is stealing Wikipedia content
In the news on the English Wikipedia, Eli Manning was named most valuable player for Super Bowl XLVI. TMZ.com, a top 500 website and one of the most popular gossip websites in the world[1], is using English Wikipedia content without license or attribution for almost all of its immense biography database. A simple rundown using some random Super Bowl related bios, no inline citations for referential comparisons and I don't have the time to find the exact diff, but they exist: American football players: *Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Manning *TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/person/eli-manning/ *Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brady *TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/person/tom-brady/ *Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wes_Welker *TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/person/wes-welker/ Madonna was the halftime show. *Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna_(entertainer) *TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/person/Madonna/ Kelly Clarkson sang the American national anthem: *Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Clarkson *TMZ: http://www.tmz.com/person/kelly-clarkson/ At the bottom of every single TMZ biography, I'm certain of which almost all are ripped from Wikipedia, is this: © 2012 EHM Productions, Inc. All rights reserved. Thank you for your time. 1. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/tmz.com -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
