[Foundation-l] Is Wiktionary copyright?

2010-03-28 Thread Andrew Turvey
Is the term Wiktionary copyrighted? I only ask because the OpenDemocracy 
website has recently started a Dictionary of Ethical Politics wikitionary 

http://resurgence.opendemocracy.net/index.php/Main_Page 

If it is copyrighted, you may want to say something to them, or else it will 
end up like the hoover - a generic term usable by anyone. 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-04 Thread Andrew Turvey
- wjhon...@aol.com wrote: 
 
 ... Few to no Wikipedia articles 
 point at Wikinews even when there is a Wikinews article. 

How about: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisbon_Treaty#Signing 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radovan_Karad%C5%BEi%C4%87#Arrest_and_trial 

or indeed the nearly 3,000 other articles listed at: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Wikinewslimit=500
 

 And I submit that 
 no outside agency points at Wikinews articles for anything. 

Google News has started to link to stories in both Wikipedia and Wikinews, 
depending on individuals' profiles. 

Andrew 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Recent firing?

2009-10-31 Thread Andrew Turvey
- Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 Try to remember that the Wikimedia Foundation 
 is a business... 

No it isn't - the Foundation is a charity. The Foundation needs to retain the 
confidence of the Wikimedia community in order to achieve its aims, and the 
community plays a big role in the Foundation through elected and 
chapter-selected board members. I'm sure it understands that. 

Andrew 


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Re: [Foundation-l] 31 august, 20 years of our national holiday Our romanian language in Moldova, mo.wikipedia still in cyrillic !

2009-09-01 Thread Andrew Turvey
A few points to add and some suggestions: 

- You can have a single language written in more than one script; although they 
are separate issues, for our purposes, given that we are predominantly written, 
we tend to combine both issues and look at language/script combinations.

- There seem to be two language/script combinations in use today: 
Romanian/Moldavian, written in the Latin Script, used by 20-25m people, which 
according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-1_codes has the 
ISO-639-1 code ro and Moldavian written in the Cyrillic script which is used 
by around 175,000 people in Transdniestr.

- The iso code for Romanian/Moldavian is ro. mo, which was the ISO code for 
Moldavian in the Cyrillic script is now deprecated. There is no ISO code for 
Cyrillic script Moldavian.

- Where ISO 639-1 codes exist we use them to name the Wikipedia. However, we do 
have other encyclopedias for languages which don't have ISO codes. Examples are 
http://ang.wikipedia.org - the Anglo Saxon encyclopedia which uses some 
non-latin characters (e.g. Ƿ for th)

- There was a similar dispute recently about the belarusian encyclopedia. I 
note there are now two projects - be-x-old and be - which are both Cyrillic but 
looking at the language article the first rejects certain grammar reforms that 
took place in 1933. 

- There is a place to request closing down projects: 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects. No proposal has 
yet been made on that page to close mo.wp

- Why should wikipedia close down a language/script which has an active, if 
small, usage? Surely a better solution is to rename the project and let them 
continue as they are?

My suggestions:

- mo.wp should be moved to something other than mo - perhaps mocy?

- In articles like http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias, it should 
be listed as Moldovan (Cyrillic) rather than just Moldovan

- mo.wp should become a disambiguation page, allowing users to choose either 
mocy or ro.

- Finally, I don't see any reason why the community can't address with this 
issue by discussion and consensus. There's no need for the foundation to get 
involved, at least at this stage.

Andrew

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Re: [Foundation-l] Frequency of Seeing Bad Versions - now with traffic data

2009-08-27 Thread Andrew Turvey
very interesting research - many thanks for sharing that. 

- Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com 
 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 27 August, 2009 17:41:29 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: [Foundation-l] Frequency of Seeing Bad Versions - now with traffic 
 data 
 
 Recently, I reported on a simple study of how likely one was to 
 encounter recent vandalism in Wikipedia based on selecting articles at 
 random and using revert behavior as a proxy for recent vandalism. 
 
 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-August/054171.html 
 
 One of the key limitations of that work was that it was looking at 
 articles selected at random from the pool of all existing page titles. 
 That approach was of the most immediate interest to me, but it didn't 
 directly address the likelihood of encountering vandalism based on the 
 way that Wikipedia is actually used because the selection of articles 
 that people choose to visit is highly non-random. 
 
 I've now redone that analysis with a crude traffic based weighting. 
 For traffic information I used the same data stream used by 
 http://stats.grok.se. That data is recorded hourly. For simplicity I 
 chose 20 hours at random from the last eight months and averaged those 
 together to get a rough picture of the relative prominence of pages. 
 I then chose a selection of 3 articles at random with their 
 probability of selection proportional to the traffic they received, 
 and repeated the prior analysis previously described. (Note that this 
 has the effect of treating the prominence of each page as a constant 
 over time. In practice we know some pages rise to prominence while 
 other fall down, but I am assuming the average pattern is still a good 
 enough approximation to be useful.) 
 
 From this sample I found 5,955,236 revert events in 38,096,653 edits. 
 This is an increase of 29 times in edit frequency and 58 times the 
 number of revert events that were found from a uniform sampling of 
 pages. I suspect it surprises no one that highly trafficked pages are 
 edited more often and subject to more vandalism than the average page, 
 though it might not have been obvious that the the ratio of reverts to 
 normal edits is also increased over more obscure pages. 
 
 As before, the revert time distribution has a very long tail, though 
 as predicted the times are generally reduced when traffic weighting is 
 applied. In the traffic weighted sample, the median time to revert is 
 3.4 minutes and the mean time is 2.2 hours (compared to 6.7 minutes 
 and 18.2 hours with uniform weighting). Again, I think it is worth 
 acknowledging that having a majority of reverts occur within only a 
 few minutes is a strong testament to the efficiency and dedication 
 with which new edits are usually reviewed by the community. We could 
 be much worse off if most things weren't caught so quickly. 
 
 Unfortunately, in comparing the current analysis to the previous one, 
 the faster response time is essentially being overwhelmed by the much 
 larger number of vandalism occurrences. The net result is that 
 averaged over the whole history of Wikipedia a visitor would be 
 expected to receive a recently degraded article version during about 
 1.1% of requests (compared to ~0.37% in the uniform weighting 
 estimate). The last six months averaged a slightly higher 1.3% (1 in 
 80 requests). As before, most of the degraded content that people are 
 likely to actually encounter is coming from the subset of things that 
 get by the initial monitors and survive for a long time. Among edits 
 that are eventually reverted the longest lasting 5% of bad content 
 (those edits taking  7.2 hours to revert) is responsible for 78% of 
 the expected encounters with recently degraded material. One might 
 speculate that such long-lived material is more likely to reflect 
 subtle damage to a page rather than more obvious problems like page 
 blanking. I did not try to investigate this. 
 
 In my sample, the number of reverts being made to articles has 
 declined ~40% since a peak in late 2006. However, the mean and median 
 time to revert is little changed over the last two years. What little 
 trend exists points in the direction of slightly slower responses. 
 
 
 So to summarize, the results here are qualitatively similar to those 
 found in the previous work. However with traffic weighting we find 
 quantitative differences such that reverts occur much more often but 
 take less time to be executed. The net effect of these competing 
 factors is such that the bad content is more likely to be seen than 
 suggested by the uniform weighting. 
 
 -Robert Rohde 
 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Closure of projects

2009-08-24 Thread Andrew Turvey
First, if the conclusion is that no procedure exists, a notice should be put on 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects stating this so 
that peoples' expectations are appropriately managed. 

Second, is that correct? Looking at 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Herero_Wikipedia
 it seems that there certainly was a procedure in the past where articles were 
shifted back into the Incubator. 

Most importantly, should there be a procedure? Keeping projects open is a drain 
on resources, such as removing vandalism. There is a level of activity below 
which the positive benefits of the project are outweighed by the drain, 
although it's clearly not worth closing a project if the effort to do this is 
not a worthwhile investment. 

Do you need particular user rights to action such requests? 

- Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com 
 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, 20 August, 2009 19:01:39 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Closure of projects 
 
 Hoi, 
 There is no procedure because what comes closest to a consensus amount to a 
 lot of work. Work that does not forward our mission one iota. The fact that 
 people vote and comment is not that special, people do ... if they vote that 
 I will wear a tutu at Wikimania and a consensus says that I should, I still 
 have to volunteer to wear that tutu. It is the same as voting for a bug in 
 bugzilla. The votes are not considered so why bother ? 
 
 As to the language committee, it does only consider new requests for 
 projects ... if it were to expand its services it would be in indicating 
 what issues exist that deal with language support that would make a 
 difference to the usability of our software. It would not be drinking from 
 the poisoned chalice that is closing projects. The closest we came to 
 expressing an opinion is that we would prefer the content of a to be closed 
 project to be imported into the Incubator. This is a not good for Incubator 
 because they get dead wood loaded into their project  
 
 So all in all in my opinion it is best to leave these things as is and 
 ignore requests for closure. 
 Thanks, 
 GerardM 
 
 2009/8/20 Huib! abi...@forgotten-beauty.com 
 
  Hello, 
  
  I noticed that there are still a lot of open request for closure on Meta 
  so I decided to contact a LangCom member (Robin) asking him about how 
  and when the projects will be closed or when the requests will be 
  closed, but I recieved a answer I didn't expected. 
  
  Robin told me there was no policy ( 
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Closure_of_WMF_projects ) about the 
  closure of projects so the request can stay open for always. 
  
  
  I think its kind of strange that we people can make a request, that 
  there are people who are voting and spending there time commenting on 
  the request or even worse have stress because there project could be 
  closed but the request will never be closed. 
  
  
  Is there a way to change this with a new policy, or with a different com 
  for the closure, because this seems to me a waste of time for a lot of 
  people, people can stop editting projects just because the think the 
  project will be closed. 
  
  At this moment there are 27 request for projects to be closed, ( 
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects ) I think 
  50% is a easy closure for keep or close. The oldest project is from 2007 
  that would mean its still open after 2 years :/ 
  
  -- 
  *Huib Laurens* 
  
  Web: Forgotten-beauty.com http://www.forgotten-beauty.com.com/ 
  Email: abi...@forgotten-beauty.com mailto:abi...@forgotten-beauty.com 
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[Foundation-l] Email list archives

2009-08-15 Thread Andrew Turvey
I hope you don't mind my raising this issue here - it's a technical issue 
affecting all wikimedia email lists so I thought this would be as good a place 
as any. 

When I subscribe to an email list I tend to get emails delivered, but I 
sometimes find it useful to view older emails on the archive. I know some 
people like to read all their emails on the archive, so this is also important 
for them. It is also useful when you have to make a publicly accessible 
reference to a previous post. 

However, the standard interface and formatting in the archives is not 
particularly professional or up to date. For instance, looking at a recent 
message I posted to the WikimediaUK list: 

http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2009-August/004565.html 

The word wrapping is all over the shop and the formatting has all been stripped 
from the text. Some third party re-users do a better job, but it's still not 
all the way there: 

The Mail Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/wikimediau...@lists.wikimedia.org/msg01470.html 
Google Mail: 
http://groups.google.com/group/wmf-wikimediauk-l/browse_thread/thread/a350852f8ad2ef63
 

The line spacing looks funny with the first and you still lose the text 
formatting with the second. 

Has anyone got any tips about how I can either format an email to begin with or 
view the email afterwards to solve this problem? 

Secondly, has this technology been developed recently? Seems it needs a bit of 
investment, or alternatively, we need to move over to a better third party 
platform like, perhaps, Yahoo Groups. 

Regards, 

Andrew 
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Re: [Foundation-l] Email list archives

2009-08-15 Thread Andrew Turvey
 Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de wrote: 
 
 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote: 
 
  [...] 
  Has anyone got any tips about how I can either format an email to begin 
  with or view the email afterwards to solve this problem? 
 
 Every at most 72 characters, hit the key known as [Enter]. 
 Before sending the mail, read it. 

Reads fine in my mail programme - it automatically word wraps. Expecting users 
to manually word wrap their own emails doesn't sound like a good idea to me. 

  Secondly, has this technology been developed recently? Seems it needs a bit 
  of investment, or alternatively, we need to move over to a better third 
  party platform like, perhaps, Yahoo Groups. 
 
 No, reading has been known to man for some millennia... 

I meant the technology used to run the Wikimedia email lists, as I'm sure you 
realised! 

Andrew 
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Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Turvey

- Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Tim Starlingtstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: 
 
  There is a need for bulk upload tools to be better advertised and more 
  readily accessible. One of the institutions reported paying students to 
  upload hundreds of photos to commons via the usual web-based UI, but 
  found it to be too time-consuming and expensive to consider on a large 
  scale. 
 
 There is an upcoming tool from the usual suspects at Wikimedia that 
 might be of interest to you and the GLAM people. 
 

Look forward to this? Do you know what the expected time line is and where we 
can get more information? 

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Re: [Foundation-l] Election Results

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Turvey
My first response is that's probably a reflection of the voting system. When 
you have a non-partisan system like this, there are no clear political pro/con 
reasons to vote for/against particular candidates and the anti-incumbency 
factor doesn't really work. Candidates are likely to be successful if they're 
well known, and that will give an advantage to more established editors. 

However, you might be over-stating this conclusion. All three retiring 
candidates stood again and only two were re-elected - Domas Mituzas lost out to 
sj. 

- Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com 
 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 12 August, 2009 20:07:00 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Election Results 
 
 While I personally am very pleased with the results, I wonder how the 
 election results will be perceived outside Wikimedia. 
 With numerous media outlets reacting to PARC's research about the state of 
 the community, I fear this endorsement of seemingly old guard Wikimedians 
 as our Board representation will support claims about the community becoming 
 unfriendly to new participants. 
 Thoughts? Am I being too nervous, or do others see that potential too? 
 
 If I'm not alone, perhaps any official announcement about the elections 
 (i.e. on the Wikimedia blog and in press releases) should address this, even 
 if only tacitly. 
 
 Steven Walling 
 
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
  On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Philippe 
  Beaudettepbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: 
   The Wikimedia Foundation's Board Election Committee has concluded the 
   board selection process, and is pleased to announce that the 
   candidates ranked as follows: 
   
   Final ranking 
   
   1 Ting Chen (Wing) 
   2 Kat Walsh (mindspillage) 
   3 Samuel Klein (Sj) 
   4 Gerard Meijssen (GerardM) 
   5 Domas Mituzas (Midom) 
   6 Thomas Braun (Redlinux) 
   7 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen (Cimon Avaro) 
   8 Steve Smith (Sarcasticidealist) 
   9 Dan Rosenthal (Swatjester) 
   10 José Gustavo Góngora (Góngora) 
   11 Brady Brim-DeForest (Bradybd) 
   12 Lourie Pieterse (LouriePieterse) 
   13 Adam Koenigsberg (CastAStone) 
   14 Ralph Potdevin (Aruspice) 
   15 Beauford Anton Stenberg (B9 hummingbird hovering) 
   16 Gregory Kohs (Thekohser) 
   17 Kevin Riley O'Keeffe (KevinOKeeffe) 
   18 Relly Komaruzaman (Relly Komaruzaman) 
   
   A full pairwise defeats table will be posted shortly. 
   
   These names have been respectfully submitted to the Board, which has 
   moved to seat the top three candidates. 
   
   The Committee wishes to thank all those who submitted themselves as 
   candidates. It was a broad and diverse field this year. We also wish 
   to recognize the many volunteers that helped with this process. The 
   committee extends its gratitude and thanks to them 
   
   
   For the committee, 
   Philippe 
   
   
   
   
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Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Andrew Turvey
Hi Pavlo, 

I'm glad this issue has risen up here and I'm sure the United Kingdom and 
Ukraine chapters can come up with something together that solves this rather 
- Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com 
 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 10:26:02 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in 
 Wikimedia jargon 
 
 Hello Teofilo, 
 
 I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confusion (I was 
 planning to do that myself a bit later). 
 
 I'm from Ukrainian WP (recently - from WMF chapter for Ukraine as 
 well) and I've met many times those confusions/misunderstandings 
 starting from 
 http://uk.wikipedia.org 
 vs. 
 http://uk.wikimedia.org 
 
 I'm sure that this issue deserves some portion of attention  thorough 
 brainstorming ;) 
 
 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Teofiloteofilow...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Hello everybody; 
  
  This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at : 
  
  http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_?
   
  
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Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Andrew Turvey
- Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.yu wrote: 
 
 I suggest a hatnote on the main page of the site: This is the website 
 of Wikimedia United Kingdom. For other uses, see uk.wikimedia.org 
 (disambiguation). 

I've added a hatnote in the meantime redirecting users to UK-WP and WM-UA. 

-- 



Andrew Turvey 
Secretary 
Wikimedia UK 
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. 
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
Registered No. 6741827. 
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United 
Kingdom. 

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Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in Wikimedia jargon

2009-07-22 Thread Andrew Turvey

Hi Pavlo, 

I'm glad this issue has risen up here and I'm sure the United Kingdom and 
Ukraine chapters can come up with something together that solves this to both 
chapters satisfaction. 

Could we take this offline and start a bilateral discussion rather than doing 
this via an open mailing list. 

Regards, 

Andrew Turvey 
Secretary 
Wikimedia UK 
Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. 
Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, 
Registered No. 6741827. 
The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL, United 
Kingdom. 


- Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com wrote: 
 From: Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com 
 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 10:26:02 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Britain or Ukraine? What UK stands for in 
 Wikimedia jargon 
 
 Hello Teofilo, 
 
 I appreciate a lot that you rose up this issue of confusion (I was 
 planning to do that myself a bit later). 
 
 I'm from Ukrainian WP (recently - from WMF chapter for Ukraine as 
 well) and I've met many times those confusions/misunderstandings 
 starting from 
 http://uk.wikipedia.org 
 vs. 
 http://uk.wikimedia.org 
 
 I'm sure that this issue deserves some portion of attention  thorough 
 brainstorming ;) 
 
 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Teofiloteofilow...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Hello everybody; 
  
  This is to say that I have written a piece on this topic at : 
  
  http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#uk.wikimedia.org_is_Wikimedia_Ukraine,_isn't_it_?
   
  
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Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew Turvey
Seems like a very useful service. Would the Foundation be interesting in taking 
ownership of this URL? If so, would Blad be willing to give/sell it to them? If 
so, could it be incorporated into a sidebar link similar to permanent link? 

- John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no wrote: 
 From: John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no 
 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Friday, 17 July, 2009 20:38:09 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and 
 systems 
 
 This is a wikipedian from Norway. 
 
 John Erling Blad 
 Wikimedia Norway 
 
 Chad wrote: 
  On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Philippe 
  Beaudettepbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: 
  On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote: 
  
  Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org? 
  
  That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234 does work :) 
  
  -Chad 
  
  
  (Asked whois.pir.org:43 about enwp.org) 
  
  Domain ID: D148943548-LROR 
  Domain Name: ENWP.ORG 
  Created On: 23-Aug-2007 14: 33: 18 UTC 
  Last Updated On: 21-Sep-2008 00: 28: 40 UTC 
  Expiration Date: 23-Aug-2009 14: 33: 18 UTC 
  Sponsoring Registrar: ASCIO Technologies Inc. - Denmark (R76-LROR) 
  Status: OK 
  Registrant ID: AT9622172-051 
  Registrant Name: Thomas Kjoerberg 
  Registrant Street1: Groennevollen 14 
  Registrant Street2: 
  Registrant Street3: 
  Registrant City: Bergen 
  Registrant State/Province: -- 
  Registrant Postal Code: 5016 
  Registrant Country: NO 
  Registrant Phone: 47.99298989 
  Registrant Phone Ext.: 
  Registrant FAX: 
  Registrant FAX Ext.: 
  Registrant Email: tl-lo...@hotmail.com 
  
  Admin ID: AT4607819-051 
  Admin Name: Hostmaster Funktionen 
  Admin Organization: One.com A/S 
  Admin Street1: Kalvebod Brygge 45 
  Admin Street2: 
  Admin Street3: 
  Admin City: Copenhagen V 
  Admin State/Province: 
  Admin Postal Code: 1560 
  Admin Country: DK 
  Admin Phone: 45.46907100 
  Admin Phone Ext.: 
  Admin FAX: 45.70205872 
  Admin FAX Ext.: 
  Admin Email: hostmas...@b-one.nu 
  
  Tech ID: AT9622194-051 
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  Tech FAX Ext.: 
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  Name Server: NS1.B-ONE.NU 
  Name Server: NS2.B-ONE.NU 
  Name Server: NS3.B-ONE.NU 
  Name Server: 
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  I did the whois too, but I don't know him. I was asking if 
  (in general) we know the guy who runs it :) 
  
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Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and systems

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew Turvey
Sorry I misunderstood! 

Great to hear WM-NO is following up. 

- John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no wrote: 
 From: John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no 
 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
 Sent: Sunday, 19 July, 2009 00:26:28 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
 Portugal 
 Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and 
 systems 
 
 The domain is not mine, nor does it belong to Wikimedia Norway, it is 
 another wikipedian from Norway who owns the domain. Wikimedia Norway has 
 been in contact with him about the domain and the future use of the 
 service, and another wikipedian has also made inquiries. 
 
 John Erling Blad 
 Wikimedia Norway 
 
 Andrew Turvey wrote: 
  Seems like a very useful service. Would the Foundation be interesting in 
  taking ownership of this URL? If so, would Blad be willing to give/sell it 
  to them? If so, could it be incorporated into a sidebar link similar to 
  permanent link? 
  
  - John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no wrote: 
  From: John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no 
  To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org 
  Sent: Friday, 17 July, 2009 20:38:09 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, 
  Portugal 
  Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Attribution on small interactive devices and 
  systems 
  
  This is a wikipedian from Norway. 
  
  John Erling Blad 
  Wikimedia Norway 
  
  Chad wrote: 
  On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Philippe 
  Beaudettepbeaude...@wikimedia.org wrote: 
  On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Chad wrote: 
  
  Does anyone know the guy who owns enwp.org? 
  
  That being said, enwp.org/?oldid=1234 does work :) 
  
  -Chad 
  
  (Asked whois.pir.org:43 about enwp.org) 
  
  Domain ID: D148943548-LROR 
  Domain Name: ENWP.ORG 
  Created On: 23-Aug-2007 14: 33: 18 UTC 
  Last Updated On: 21-Sep-2008 00: 28: 40 UTC 
  Expiration Date: 23-Aug-2009 14: 33: 18 UTC 
  Sponsoring Registrar: ASCIO Technologies Inc. - Denmark (R76-LROR) 
  Status: OK 
  Registrant ID: AT9622172-051 
  Registrant Name: Thomas Kjoerberg 
  Registrant Street1: Groennevollen 14 
  Registrant Street2: 
  Registrant Street3: 
  Registrant City: Bergen 
  Registrant State/Province: -- 
  Registrant Postal Code: 5016 
  Registrant Country: NO 
  Registrant Phone: 47.99298989 
  Registrant Phone Ext.: 
  Registrant FAX: 
  Registrant FAX Ext.: 
  Registrant Email: tl-lo...@hotmail.com 
  
  Admin ID: AT4607819-051 
  Admin Name: Hostmaster Funktionen 
  Admin Organization: One.com A/S 
  Admin Street1: Kalvebod Brygge 45 
  Admin Street2: 
  Admin Street3: 
  Admin City: Copenhagen V 
  Admin State/Province: 
  Admin Postal Code: 1560 
  Admin Country: DK 
  Admin Phone: 45.46907100 
  Admin Phone Ext.: 
  Admin FAX: 45.70205872 
  Admin FAX Ext.: 
  Admin Email: hostmas...@b-one.nu 
  
  Tech ID: AT9622194-051 
  Tech Name: Hostmaster Funktionen 
  Tech Organization: One.com A/S 
  Tech Street1: Kalvebod Brygge 45 
  Tech Street2: 
  Tech Street3: 
  Tech City: Copenhagen V 
  Tech State/Province: 
  Tech Postal Code: 1560 
  Tech Country: DK 
  Tech Phone: 45.46907100 
  Tech Phone Ext.: 
  Tech FAX: 45.70205872 
  Tech FAX Ext.: 
  Tech Email: hostmas...@b-one.nu 
  
  Name Server: NS1.B-ONE.NU 
  Name Server: NS2.B-ONE.NU 
  Name Server: NS3.B-ONE.NU 
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  Name Server: 
  Name Server: 
  Name Server: 
  Name Server: 
  Name Server: 
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  Facilitator, Strategic Plan 
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