Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia meets git
> I will apply for an account when It is ready for integration. > > this is still in experimentation mode. > The git replaces the mysql database. > > But there is alot more work to do to make this viable. > > thanks for all your encouragement and support. > > Since there are other people out there, perhaps we can start a mediawiki-git discussion list and/or wiki discussion page? I'd love to post the work I'm doing, too as it starts to come together. -Josh ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Announcement] Guillaume Paumier joins the Ford multi-media usability project
Congratulations, Guillaume, and best of luck. If the modern proverb, "a picture is worth ten thousand words", is true, then right now commons is worth over 50 billion words! -Josh On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Naoko Komura wrote: > It is my real pleasure to announce that Guillaume Paumier has joined the > usability team as Product Manager of the Ford multi-media usability > project. Guillaume has been the author of Wikipedia articles, Wikipedia > handbook and active Commons contributor since 2005, and served as a > board member of French chapter from 2007 to 2009. He also coordinated > the chapter meeting in Berlin for German chapter earlier this year. > Outside of the "Wikimedia universe", Guillaume is actively advocating > potential of Wikimedia Commons and has taken steps to create ties > between Wikimedia and desktop imaging applications. > > Guillaume has a master's degree in nanotechnology from Institut national > des Sciences appliquées and a PhD in microsystems for life sciences from > Université Paul Sabatier, both in Toulouse, France. > > Guillaume will be working remotely as a consultant until the visa to > work in the United States is approved. He can be reached at > gpaum...@wikimedia.org. > > Please join me welcoming Guillaume. > > Naoko Komura > Program Manager > Usability Initiative > Wikimedia Foundation > > -- > Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- I am running a marathon for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society. Can you help me reach my fundraising goals? Visit http://pages.teamintraining.org/ma/pfchangs10/joshuagay ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia meets git
This is very awesome. I am in the early stages of trying to scope out a small side project to do a mediawiki <-> git bridge; it is very challenging. Being able to download the complete edit history in this fashion is extremely useful. Thank you very much for sharing this work. -Josh On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:45 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com < jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:40 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com > wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Gregory Maxwell > wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 4:38 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com > >> wrote: > >>> There are ways to optimize all of this. Most users will not want to > >>> download the full history. > >> > >> Then why are you using git? > > > > I am not most users. I am using git because I think it is the best way > > forward to implement many of the ideas discussed in the strategy wiki. > > > if you want only the last 3 revisions checked out , it takes about 10 > seconds and produces 300k of data. > > git clone --depth 3 git://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/KosovoWikipedia.git > > du -h gittest/ > 252Kgittest/ > > Log file : > > Initialized empty Git repository in > /home_data2/2009/10/KosovoWikipedia/gittest/KosovoWikipedia/.git/ > remote: Counting objects: 21, done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (10/10), done. > remote: Total 21 (delta 3), reused 20 (delta 3) > Receiving objects: 100% (21/21), 40.98 KiB, done. > Resolving deltas: 100% (3/3), done. > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- I am running a marathon for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society. Can you help me reach my fundraising goals? Visit http://pages.teamintraining.org/ma/pfchangs10/joshuagay ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing scam
I have submitted the following to GNU.org It doesn't make sense to send something like this to a gnu.org mailing list. The GNU project does not accept copyrights in any official capacity--that work is done by the FSF. And, it's really only worth emailing them if people actually assigned copyright to the FSF of the work. Besides, people from the GNU project and friends of the FSF are on *this* mailing list already. -Josh ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Projekt: OpenCritics (let's free subjective content, too!!)
So, I think that such a project works well with the concept of NPOV. I think you can break the site into two distinct parts. Part 1: You collect opinions of various sorts in various ways. Part 2: You organize them in terms of their relative significance to each other and summarize them in a disinterested voice. This would be a lot like Wikibooks and Wikipedia; people write stuff on Wikibooks and then people cite those books on Wikipedia. -Josh On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Victor Vasiliev wrote: > Sage Ross wrote: > > I think this is an excellent, long overdue idea and something > > Wikimedia should be interested in. I was actually thinking of > > proposing something like this at strategy.wikimedia.org (and may still > > do so). > > > > I don't think that creating such a project within Wikimedia would be a > great idea. NPOV is one of the most important Wikimedia principles. > > --vvv > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- I am running the Arizona Rock'n'Roll marathon with Team in Training. Help me reach my fundraising goals: http://pages.teamintraining.org/ma/pfchangs10/joshuagay ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation
When Matt Halprin is on the board of Wikimedia, he is doing his job for Omidyar Network. So, when we read, a statement like: > [Matt Halprin] has important nonprofit experience, serving on the boards of > organizations like DonorsChoose.org and the Sunlight Foundation. Just remember that he was put on the board of Sunlight Foundation it was the same day ON cut them a check for $2M [1], and similarly, although he is on the board of DonorsChoose, ON has given them over $6M so far [2]. I think it's good to remember that when he makes vote on the board of WM, he is doing so with as much interesest in his role as board member as he is in his roll at ON, which is to lead their Media, Markets & Transparency initiative [3]. Within those three, Wikimedia is considered to be a "Social Media," investment, and the goal that ON is tryign to achieving in investing in these kinds of initiatives is to: "We aspire to amplify the transformative character of social media and facilitate the creation, discovery, and distribution of trustworthy information and original content. We hope to enable more individuals to express themselves, make more informed decisions, connect with others, and take action on what matters to them." [4] So, yes, I think ON has bought a seat on the board, and I even think that it is likely that Matt personally orchestrated that it. But, taking a big step back, I also really trust the ON and I think the choices Matt has made on their behalf over the past year or so have been really smart decisions. I think he'll bring a lot to the board and I hope that this will be the start of a beautiful relationship for the ON and WM foundation. Best of luck to everyone! References: [1]: http://www.omidyar.com/about_us/news/2009/03/17/sunlight-foundation-announces-4-million-invesment-omidyar-network [2]: http://www.omidyar.com/portfolio/donorschooseorg [3]: http://www.omidyar.com/team/matt-halprin [4]: http://www.omidyar.com/investment_areas/media-markets-transparency/social-media ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics
> > Interesting, I didn't know that. Is this demo available somewhere? Here is a demo of it up and running: http://ol.fkbuild.com/w/index.php/Main_Page Click edit and then click on the OL button on the tool bar and enter a search item. Also, I think someone I shared this with had trouble getting it to work with IE -- I've only ever tried it on firefox. -Josh ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikisource-l] Open Library, Wikisource, and cleaning and translating OCR of Classics
David Strauss did a quick implementation (basically a demo) of an OpenLibrary extension for MediaWiki. In very little amount of code, he was able to easily search the OL (via AJAX) and when the user selected a given result, it poppulated a Citation template. What was nice is that when no results came up for a given search, there was an "add to open library" button that brought you to the OL site to add your bibliographic information. I think it would be easy to build upon this work and one could do a really powerful MW extension (and maybe some new templates, etc) that would allow people to contribute to both MW and OL simultaneously. I think that the OL should continue to do what is trying to do. I also think people should be able to quickly and easily create new and important wikimedia projects, especially when people are passionate to do so. And, I think when different projects on the Internet have a lot of overlap in what they are trying to do, and share similar philosophy and ethics, that they should have their machines play nice with each other and make sharing (reading and writing) data between them easy. -Josh On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Yann Forget wrote: > Lars Aronsson wrote: > > Yann Forget wrote: > > > >> As I already said, the first steps would be to import existing > >> databases, and Wikimedians are very good at this job. > > > > Do you have a bibliographic database (library catalog) of French > > literature that you can upload? How many records? Convincing > > libraries to donate copies of their catalogs has been a bottleneck > > for OpenLibrary. > > No, I don't have such a database. There is a copyright on databases in > Europe, which makes things complicated. > > Probably we need to start with libraries which are already collaborating > with open content projects. There was a GLAM-wiki meeting in Australia > recently: there might be a possibility with an Australian library? > > But even before that, if we could extract the data from Wikimedia > projects, we could create a basic working frame. I have been collecting > such data on Wikisource and Wikibooks, but the lack of a structured > system is a bottleneck. > > Examples: > 1. Comprehensive bibliography of Gandhi in French > http://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/Bibliographie_de_Gandhi > > 2. French translations of Russian authors: > http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Discussion_Auteur:L%C3%A9on_Tolsto%C3%AF > > http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Discussion_Auteur:F%C3%A9dor_Mikha%C3%AFlovitch_Dosto%C3%AFevski > > Regards, > > Yann > -- > http://www.non-violence.org/ | Site collaboratif sur la non-violence > http://www.forget-me.net/ | Alternatives sur le Net > http://fr.wikisource.org/ | Bibliothèque libre > http://wikilivres.info | Documents libres > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- I am running the Arizona Rock'n'Roll marathon with Team in Training. Help me reach my fundraising goals: http://pages.teamintraining.org/ma/pfchangs10/joshuagay ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia
This won't work. The problem is that these books are not being clearly marketed as printed Wikipedia articles. So, marketing your books as up to date printed versions of Wikipedia articles isn't going to be competing with these books. I recommend doing a positive campaign where you encourage people to log onto amazon and leave helpful comments and tag and categorize books appropriately. However, I don't think this is the work of the foundation. I think some active wikipedians and wikimedians should bring this to the community. If I had more energy I would do it myself, and here is what I would do: 1) Write a blog post encouraging people to log onto Amazon and write a short, respectable, and helpful comment on the books so that consumers can understand the situation. 2) Get this blog post translated into a few languages. 3) Write an email that asks the reader to: * Pass this email on to others * Vote the story up on various news aggregator sites (Digg, etc). * Go to the page and read the blog for more details and to take part in this collaborative effort to inform consumers. 4) Send it out to a lot of people (many thousand). 5) Release a short press release about the blog and the people joining in this effort and send that out to various news sources. -Josh On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > Geoffrey Plourde wrote: > > The single best way to kill them is to reprint the exact same books, then > sell them at the low low price of cost + 10%. When people start snapping > them up like fruitcakes, Alphascript will be finished. > > > > > > > > > Not just the same books, but the same books corrected and updated. > > Ec > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- I am running the Arizona Rock'n'Roll marathon with Team in Training. Help me reach my fundraising goals: http://pages.teamintraining.org/ma/pfchangs10/joshuagay ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Alphascript Publishing: 1900+ copy&pasted books from Wikipedia
When I worked for the FSF I helped to run a campaign against the Amazon Kindle (and, DRM in general). We did an action called "The Kindle Swindle" in which we asked people to tag all DRM ebooks and the kindle itself with the tags "kindle swindle" and "DRM". People went ahead and tagged close to a thousand products with the term "Kindle Swindle" and the Kindle advice was tagged with that phrase close to 400 times making it become one of the top four tags on the Kindle page. What is kind of neat is that for each tag-term has its own discussion forum. The "Kindle Swindle" tag has a relatively active set of discussion threads [1], and the original comment I wrote [2] has over 250 replies to it. I imagine some combination of blogging, tagging, and letter writing could help in some way to increase consumer awareness and this kind of work can be done in a distributed fashion by wikimedians worldwide. footnotes :[1] http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle%20swindle?ref_=tag_dpp_cust_itdp_t :[2] http://www.amazon.com/tag/kindle%20swindle/forum/ref=cm_cd_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx9U9IIOS8R4U3&cdThread=TxEMQ1LM199AP8&displayType=tagsDetail On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Renata St wrote: > It was raised before on the Village Pump, but I think this is so disturbing > that we ought to do something. > > "Alphascript Publishing" has published over 1900 (and counting) books, all > available on Amazon. Prices range from $31 to $179. All of these books are > simple computer-generated copies from Wikipedia and (at least according to > one Amazon reviewer) couple other public domain websites. Trouble is, from > book description page there is absolutely no way of knowing that the book is > a Wikipedia mirror on paper. At least several Amazon buyers have been > fooled. What really gets my blood boiling is that Amazon user "VDM Verlag > Dr.Müller" (I think someone exposed him as 100% shareholder of the > publishing co) goes on rating these products as "five star" > > The publisher seems to observe the copyright (even includes full edit > history) so legal action seems impossible. Someone already contacted Amazon, > but they "are not responsible for the quality of books sold". In the > meantime the number of such books grew from 900 in June to almost 2000 as of > today... I think we should do something. At the very least publishing > product reviews warning that what this is > > See: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PrimeHunter/Alphascript_Publishing_sells_free_articles_as_expensive_books > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_20#The_Alphascript-Amazon-Wikipedia_book_hoax > http://rufftoon.livejournal.com/59337.html > > Thanks, > Renata > > P.S. on a happier note: half of Wikipedia editors now can claim to be > "published authors". > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- I am running the Arizona Rock'n'Roll marathon with Team in Training. Help me reach my fundraising goals: http://pages.teamintraining.org/ma/pfchangs10/joshuagay ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
