Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia ideology
- Original Message - From: "geni" On 23 October 2011 09:16, Peter Damian wrote: > Greetings, > > I am writing a book on the history of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia > movement, focusing on its 'history of ideas'. Would any Wikipedians be > prepared to be interviewed for this? Obviously long-standing Wikipedians > would be a focus but I am interested in anyone who is involved in the > movement because of passionately held convictions or 'ideology'. You know it would in most cases have been considered an act of good faith to mention your long standing antipathy to wikipedia. But perhaps I'm just old fashioned. -- geni geni: I think what you're thinking of is "ethics". I'm a bit old fashioned, myself. -kc- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] University project on Wikipedia
I think the good people over at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Classroom coordination]] might be able to help you set this up and render assistance. Sounds like a wonderful project, good luck! -kc- - Original Message - From: "Maria Fanucchi" To: "Wikimedia Translators" ; ; Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 7:21 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] University project on Wikipedia [Cross-posting this to Translators-l, WikiEN-l and Foundation-l, because there is a considerable amount of overlap, as you'll see. Volunteers from several Wikipedias may be needed, and the Foundation could eventually be involved if the project becomes an annual one. I apologize in advance to those subscribed all three lists.] Hello everyone, (Note: For those who don't know me, I am [[User:Arria Belli]]. Former admin and arbitrator over at fr:wp, and member of the LangCom. I met some of you at Wikimania 2008 Alexandria, where I did a presentation called "Translation in Wikimedia Projects" ex-aequo with [[User:Britty]].) I've just started a master's degree at the ESIT (Ecole supérieure d'interprètes et de traducteurs) in Paris, in English/French/Spanish translation. It's quite a good school; a large percentage of the interpreters and translators working in international organizations are graduates of the ESIT. My French-to-English translation professor has asked me to set up a project for all the students in her class, translating Wikipedia articles. We're a small group: there are only about 5 or 6 of us. What we'd be doing is taking articles from fr: and translating them to en:. Students are free to choose the articles they'll translate. Since I'm mostly active over at fr:wp, I will need some help from people on en:. Most notably, I think it would be wise to set up a small group of en:wp volunteers who could guide the students on a one-on-one basis in case they have trouble understanding wiki markup, references, etc. I would be coordinating the project, but I don't think I could field all the students' questions at once! Any volunteers? I want to make this as positive an experience as possible for everyone involved: the students, the professor and the institution. If the project is successful enough, it might happen again next year or even next semester, and become a regular thing. As a very important aside: My professor told me that professors in other language combinations might also be interested in Wikipedia projects of their own. Therefore, there could be an English-to-Russian project, or a French-to-Spanish one, or French-to-Korean, etc. I'll let you know as soon as I'm told whether this could happen. Even if no other language combinations are interested, they might be next year if this one is a success. Thank you, and happy editing. Maria Fanucchi [[User:Arria Belli]] ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Mike Godwin leaves the Wikimedia Foundation
hah, can we pre-order? I would also like to add my voice to those offering appreciation for all your good works, Mike. - Original Message - From: "David Gerard" To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcement: Mike Godwin leaves the Wikimedia Foundation > On 21 October 2010 20:18, Robert Rohde wrote: > >> I would also like to add my gratitude to Mike for his years of useful >> service. It is hard to imagine who could be a suitable replacement. > > > Having been privileged to see some of the breathtaking thngs Mike > pulled off for Wikimedia that cannot as yet be spoken of, I can only > hope that he has a memoir stored up for release in thirty years ... > > > - d. > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] The High Priests of Wikipedia
We've already established we drink beer, not Kool Aid. /joke - Original Message - From: "Steven Walling" To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] The High Priests of Wikipedia > Okay, okay. Didn't mean to start a discussion about the nature of the > Catholic Church. Just meant that it's not what most people think of when > you > say cult. They think of "drink the Kool-Aid", so on and so forth. > > Steven Walling > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] "Filtering" ourselves is pointless
This is excellent advice from David. I could not agree more regarding Fox News; ignore them. They won't go away, but any reaction feeds their nonsense. - Original Message - From: "David Gerard" To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:25 PM Subject: [Foundation-l] "Filtering" ourselves is pointless > Despite Content Purge, Pornographic Images Remain on Wikimedia > By Jana Winter > http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/05/10/porn-wikipedia-illegal-content-remains/ > > > Any attempt to "filter" ourselves is not addressing the fact that the > images exist at all on Commons. > > Any attempted appeasement of these vicious morons was and is > counterproductive at best. Fox News is best aggressively ignored from > now on and given similar cooperation to the Register. > > > - d. > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Sue Gardner nominated for HuffPost mediagame-changer of the year
I have limited time. I have no shame admitting that I'm going to vote for Sue and ignore the others, who I am certain are all good, worthy people - but who aren't getting my highly biased support. -kc- - Original Message - From: "David Gerard" To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: [Foundation-l] Sue Gardner nominated for HuffPost mediagame-changer of the year > Nominated for having successfully taken the organisation to the next > level of professionalism and the influence that gives us. > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/29/huffpost-game-changers-wh_n_337129.html?slidenumber=IYkFqRf71RU%3D#slide_image > > (Do of course click through the others.) > > > - d. > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2468 - Release Date: 10/29/09 19:49:00 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] moderate this list
- Original Message - From: "Liam Wyatt" To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] moderate this list > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: > >> 2009/8/28 Anthony : >> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Ziko van Dijk > >wrote: >> > >> >> Maybe it would be enough to have someone to tell those people that >> >> they have expressed what is on their mind and should no longer bother >> >> the others. >> > >> > >> > You could try that, but I have a feeling that those people, unlike >> > those >> > other people, know how to use their email filters. >> >> Personally, I use an email filter called "my brain". I look at subject >> lines and I don't read emails that don't interest me. It has worked >> for years with great success. > > > Hmm... you must be interested in lots of things then > Which is all to the good, SFAICS. I ignore a lot more threads than Anthony or Dalton or Gerard and the other more active people here - but I know at least some experienced knowledgable people will be looking at every thread - possibly not the /same/ knowledgable active people, but someone from that pool of individuals, and I am glad they are available and have the time and energy to do so. I fail to see how this is an issue. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing Philippe Beaudette as the StrategyProject Facilitator
I have to say your cheerful enthusiasm really made my day. Take care of that, it is a precious resource! - Original Message - From: "philippe" To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Announcing Philippe Beaudette as the StrategyProject Facilitator > Hi everyone > > I'd like to thank Sue for the welcome to staff and say that I'm really > excited to work with Eugene - I've heard so many great things about > him from community members. We'll start defining the strategic > planning process soon, I'm sure, and I feel quite certain that FAQs > will be an early part of that. Until then, any thoughts that you have > are most welcome, and I know Eugene feels the same way. I can be > reached by email or on my en:Wikipedia or meta user talk pages. I'll > also make an effort to be visible on IRC as well. > > Best, > Philippe > > ___ > philippe > philippe.w...@gmail.com > > > On Jul 13, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> I am delighted to announce that the Facilitator for Wikimedia's >> collaborative strategy development project will be Philippe Beaudette. >> >> Many of you know Philippe, who is a trusted member of the Wikimedia >> volunteer community. He's a three-year member of the Board of >> Trustees Election Committee, a two-year trusted administrator for the >> English Wikipedia, and has twice been granted temporary administrator >> status for meta for election-related activities. He has also been a >> volunteer for OTRS, where he successfully resolved some particularly >> difficult complaints regarding biographies of living people. He also >> helped the Wikimedia Foundation develop the “media upload” >> proposal >> for the Ford Foundation, which resulted, a few weeks ago, in a USD >> 300,000 grant for a project aimed at streamlining the process for >> uploading media to Wikimedia Commons. >> >> Outside Wikimedia, Philippe has a background in American electoral >> politics, where he has worked as Deputy Campaign Manager, Operations >> Manager and Technology Director on a number of state and federal >> campaigns, as well as for the non-profit Progressive Alliance >> Foundation. He has also worked as a technology consultant in the >> for-profit sector in the United States, Italy and the United Kingdom. >> >> Philippe brings a number of important skills to the Facilitator role. >> He is experienced facilitating discussion on wikis, mailing lists, >> IRC, face-to-face and using teleconferences. He has experience >> understanding and successfully managing complex stakeholder networks. >> And he has managed projects under tight timelines. Most importantly, >> he has a good, rich understanding of the mechanisms and systems used >> by Wikimedia volunteers to stage discussions, achieve consensus and >> make decisions. >> >> Philippe will work from his home in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and will report >> to Eugene Eric Kim, the strategy plan project manager. He will start >> July 27. >> >> Philippe will be a terrific addition to the team; I look forward to >> working with him. Please join me in congratulating and welcoming him >> to the staff of the Wikimedia Foundation. And thanks again to Erik >> Moeller and Jennifer Riggs for participating in the hiring interviews. >> >> The strategy plan team will total three people: Project Manager Eugene >> Eric Kim, Facilitator Philippe Beaudette, and a to-be-named Research >> Analyst. I hope to be in a position to announce the Research Analyst, >> within a few weeks. >> >> Thanks, >> Sue >> >> >> >> -- >> Sue Gardner >> Executive Director >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> 415 839 6885 office >> >> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in >> the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! >> >> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate >> >> ___ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.13/2236 - Release Date: 07/13/09 17:57:00 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] NYTimes article: Exploring Fact City
This is a lovely article, by a reporter who actually doesn't seem to be on a smear campaign or completely misunderstand how Wikipedia works - altho its unclear how much of that is due to reading "The Wikipedia Revolution". Wikipedia: Exploring Fact City http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/weekinreview/29cohen.html?ref=technology ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people
David Gerard wrote: > 2009/3/4 KillerChihuahua : > > >> I cannot stress enough how strongly I agree with this assessment. If >> NPOV, V, and RS were followed - as they should be by normally >> intelligent adults wishing to write good articles - BLP isn't even >> needed at all. I support BLP existing, although I've seen it misused a >> good bit - but IMO it wouldn't hurt a bit if someone IAR'd and gutted a >> lot of the other policies that have grown up like weeds over the last >> couple of years. More will only make matters worse. >> > > > Not quite - the important difference with BLPs is that we cannot be > eventualist (start with an awful article and let it improve with time) > - we do not have the luxury of eventualism. With BLPs, we must be > immediatist - we must not have a live version that violates the > content rules. > > > - d. > Quite right - I should have been more clear on that. -kc- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people
David Gerard wrote: > 2009/3/4 Fred Bauder : > > >> How about something a little more helpful? >> > > > Uh, I think pointing out obvious problems counts, particularly when > the solution offered is to do the same things that are already > problematic twice as hard. > > The hard part is to lead the community to a standard of living bio > that is suitable. > > * What makes a valid research source is not something teenagers on a > website can make up off the top of their heads and expect to get > right, but that's what WP:RS is. See the talk page if you don't > believe me. Hubris and enthusiasm don't make competence, > unfortunately. > * No guideline or policy will protect against stupidity or malice, and > those that try to will be a millstone for good faith editors. But time > and time again, the community reaction has been to add more policies > and guidelines in the hope these will protect against stupidity or > malice, and blame the good faith editors for not following the bad > guidelines hard enough. See the current arbitration case on the > matter. > > > - d. > > __ I cannot stress enough how strongly I agree with this assessment. If NPOV, V, and RS were followed - as they should be by normally intelligent adults wishing to write good articles - BLP isn't even needed at all. I support BLP existing, although I've seen it misused a good bit - but IMO it wouldn't hurt a bit if someone IAR'd and gutted a lot of the other policies that have grown up like weeds over the last couple of years. More will only make matters worse. -kc- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] The new iteration
If the list is dead, it is because there is nothing to discuss at this time. This isn't a forum. Someone will bring a new topic in as appropriate, which is far preferable to trying to keep this list active and clog our inboxes with less relevant discussions, surely? Milos Rancic wrote: > Anybody alive? > > The iteration goes like: > * I start to talk about low activity on the list. > * Erik mentions that new step toward license migration has been happened. > * Others get some idea to talk about. > * The new iteration of discussion begins. > > So, let's try: This list became dead once again! > > > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation applauds IWF decision to reverse Wikipedia censorship in the United Kingdom
Don't forget intranets. David Gerard wrote: > 2008/12/11 Cary Bass : > > >> And sometimes even pluralized, like "I was searching through your >> internets" >> > > > "intarwebs", get it right! > > > - d. > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
