Re: [Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia
@Kim: Subtitles might be a good way to go. I'll see about putting up the full screenplays, once I've translated them into English. @Phil: Well', we do have some translations (6 at the moment) at http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf/Three_Wikipedia_films. We could do the full subtitle translations there as well. Thanks for all your suggestions. Best wishes, Lennart 2011/9/29 Phil Nash phn...@blueyonder.co.uk Kim Bruning wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 02:02:20PM +0200, Lennart Guldbrandsson wrote: Okay. I hope that I didn't stifle your comment, though. One idea: Feel free to dub in your own voices if you want voices. That could be very cool! Best wishes, Lennart Actually, if this is going to be shown at conferences and such, it might be handier to add subtitles? :-) sincerely, Kim Bruning Seriously, dubbing dialogue, although *kewl*, would be a triumph of hope over experience, and technically and practically infeasible within a sensible timescale, but when it comes to subtitles, the question has to be in how many languages? A good starting point is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_languages, which has Arabic Chinese (Mandarin) English French Russian Spanish (Castilian) as core, but Bengali Hindustani Portuguese Esperanto as proposed. Of these, I would regard languages of the Indian subcontinent as being of higher priority, since (IME) speakers of Spanish can get to grips wth Portuguese at least at a basic level, and Esperanto does not seem to have had the penetration it might deserve. What is perhaps surprising is that Japanese is missing from both these lists, but then perhaps most Japanese are also pretty competent in English these days. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson Wikimedia Sverige ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia
That is a good point, John. Maybe we should add more closeups of Wikipedia in future films. Thanks for the feedback. Best wishes, Lennart 2011/9/29 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com Hi Lennart. Thank you for these. I'll be using the Läraren video on this coming Monday at This Is Not Art. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Newcastle/TINA2011 The other two are not as obviously about Wikipedia. -- John Vandenberg -- Lennart Guldbrandsson Wikimedia Sverige ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia
Okay. I hope that I didn't stifle your comment, though. One idea: Feel free to dub in your own voices if you want voices. That could be very cool! Best wishes, Lennart 2011/9/28 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com Hi Lennart, On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your input. They are not late at all. I have worked with writing and films for about ten years now, so I do not take your comments personally. The only comment that is new is that I should leave the director's chair to someone else. If you could be more specific about that, I would be grateful. It's a very fair question and I think you've exposed that my comment where I sort of blame it on the director wasn't thought through or was just a bit woolly. You listed a number of things wondering whether I would criticise those and I am pleased to say, no, I didn't think those things were wrong. I suppose I felt it would have been the director who would have made the decision to have in the videos speaking parts that would be rendered in silence. But I guess that may have been a decision a *writer* would have made. So, sorry, I should not have made the director comment. What we were after were not only that people would stand and watch the entire films - it was to make the stand more lively than with only text, or worse, with computer code. Human movement on screens at the back of the stand were very effective at getting people to stop, OK. Yes, I can see how that would work. I'm sure they worked well for that. So please feel free only to take my comments as far as you find them useful and discard anything you feel missed the point. To reiterate, I thought the videos looked very polished and professional. Bodnotbod ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson Wikimedia Sverige ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia
Hello Bodnotbod, Thank you for your input. They are not late at all. I have worked with writing and films for about ten years now, so I do not take your comments personally. The only comment that is new is that I should leave the director's chair to someone else. If you could be more specific about that, I would be grateful. Do you think the camera angles are wrong, the cutting is bad, the acting is hammy (it didn't appear so, but I include it for completeness sake), the interpretation of the script is shallow, the atmosphere is that the filming was rushed, the tempo is too slow or too fast, the stories are too bad, the characters are too uninteresting, the actors are too similar, the places are badly chosen, the rooms of the film are disturbed, or something else? Precision would certainly help. Thanks in advance. Just a clarification when it comes to the other point: the films were really too long for the average passerby, who passed the stand in about one to three second (there were around 900 stands there). What we were after were not only that people would stand and watch the entire films - it was to make the stand more lively than with only text, or worse, with computer code. Human movement on screens at the back of the stand were very effective at getting people to stop, but we tried to get them to start editing, not to get them to watch the films. The films are not *that* effective that we could rely on them to make the argument for us. But they were one of the ways in. Another method that worked well was to give people stickers with the Wikipedia globe and ask them how often they used Wikipedia. That does not, of course, negate your comments. I assure you that I take them seriously. But I need more information. Thanks. Best wishes, Lennart 2011/9/27 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com wrote: This year, we have prepared three short films about why the visitors should contribute to Wikipedia (roughly a minute each) that we will show continuously over the four days of the fair. But before we show them for the public, I'd like to show them to you. I'm a bit late replying and, even worse, I'm going to commit a cardinal sin. But here goes. Positives: I thought the videos looked very professional. And I can see that you went to some effort to make the videos make sense without sound, as you have people pointing at things in a very direct manner. Unfortunately, though (and I know it's frowned upon to be critical of others hard work) I still don't think they quite work as non-sound videos. I put myself in the position of the intended audience: someone at a busy fair. I will see on the videos lips moving without sound. I will assume there *should be* sound. Lips are moving = where is the sound? for me. With us on this mailing list you have told us not to expect it, but you surely aren't telling everyone at the fair that there isn't any to be heard. I would merely glance at the screen, see people talking and think oh, no sound and walk away or look elsewhere. Nevertheless, the first two would work on me if I had someone telling me just watch. The third one (with the grandchildren) failed for me. With the first two I could understand what they were trying to convey to a large degree. The third one I found totally obscure. Again, I know what was intended because you told us and the sign at the end seals the deal, but with the third one I didn't think the images really added anything to the end message. Again, sorry to be largely negative about them. They look professional in image quality and there's no hammy performances or stuff to make you go ugh! and I would certainly be glad to see you make more films... although I might suggest someone else had directorial control... With best intentions, Bodnotbod ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson Wikimedia Sverige ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia
Hello, Thanks. I have now created a subpage to the Bookshelf Project, where we collect materials such as these. Please help out with the translations here: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf/Three_Wikipedia_films Best wishes, Lennart 2011/9/21 emijrp emi...@gmail.com Hey Lennart, they are great videos! Please, create a wikipage on meta:, and I will add the Spanish translation. Regards, emijrp 2011/9/21 Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com Hello, (Sorry for cross-posting this.) In just two days, Wikimedia Sverige is once again going to participate at the Gothenburg Book Fair, which is the second largest book fair in Europe. Around 100 000 people come there every year from almost all of our target groups. This year, we have prepared three short films about why the visitors should contribute to Wikipedia (roughly a minute each) that we will show continuously over the four days of the fair. But before we show them for the public, I'd like to show them to you. Keep in mind that they are meant to be shown at a busy fair. That's why we have no sound, including no dialogue. (I.e. we didn't foul up when uploading them to YouTube). We only have a short sign at the end of the film with sort of a theme stated. Since we will be there to take questions, we didn't feel that we needed more than that. And now, here are the links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtUJCeWNzw8 (the librarian) (the sign at the end says: When you look up a fact, enter it into Wikipedia as well. Next time, it will be you that saves time.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-voNMspnU4g (the teacher) (Wikipedia can be a good tool for teaching source criticism and how information is created. Learn more about how Wikipedia works.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ovfukCZts (the senior citizen) (Share what you know. Wikipedia is read by hundreds of thousands of people every day. Maybe by your grandchild too.) The films are licensed cc-by-sa, and will be uploaded shortly to Wikimedia Commons, both as they are now, and with soft music. Here is the good news: If you want a version in your language, just send us what the sign at the end should say and we'll make it for you! Please have at least two people proof-read it before you send it to us, to avoid mistakes, since we probably won't be able to determine if you've made any errors. If you want more films like this, holler and we may make them. We have a good team here, and can make these films pretty cheaply and quickly. Any comments are welcome! Best wishes, Lennart Lennart Guldbrandsson, Wikimedia Sverige http://wikimedia.se Tfn: 031 - 12 50 48 Mobil: 070 - 207 80 05 Epost: l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com Användarsida: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Hannibal Blogg: http://mrchapel.wordpress.com/ Please note that this email adress is used for mailing lists only. Any personal emails will probably grow old before they are read. To reach me more quickly, send your emails to l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com. Thanks. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson Wikimedia Sverige ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia
Hello, (Sorry for cross-posting this.) In just two days, Wikimedia Sverige is once again going to participate at the Gothenburg Book Fair, which is the second largest book fair in Europe. Around 100 000 people come there every year from almost all of our target groups. This year, we have prepared three short films about why the visitors should contribute to Wikipedia (roughly a minute each) that we will show continuously over the four days of the fair. But before we show them for the public, I'd like to show them to you. Keep in mind that they are meant to be shown at a busy fair. That's why we have no sound, including no dialogue. (I.e. we didn't foul up when uploading them to YouTube). We only have a short sign at the end of the film with sort of a theme stated. Since we will be there to take questions, we didn't feel that we needed more than that. And now, here are the links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtUJCeWNzw8 (the librarian) (the sign at the end says: When you look up a fact, enter it into Wikipedia as well. Next time, it will be you that saves time.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-voNMspnU4g (the teacher) (Wikipedia can be a good tool for teaching source criticism and how information is created. Learn more about how Wikipedia works.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ovfukCZts (the senior citizen) (Share what you know. Wikipedia is read by hundreds of thousands of people every day. Maybe by your grandchild too.) The films are licensed cc-by-sa, and will be uploaded shortly to Wikimedia Commons, both as they are now, and with soft music. Here is the good news: If you want a version in your language, just send us what the sign at the end should say and we'll make it for you! Please have at least two people proof-read it before you send it to us, to avoid mistakes, since we probably won't be able to determine if you've made any errors. If you want more films like this, holler and we may make them. We have a good team here, and can make these films pretty cheaply and quickly. Any comments are welcome! Best wishes, Lennart Lennart Guldbrandsson, Wikimedia Sverige http://wikimedia.se Tfn: 031 - 12 50 48 Mobil: 070 - 207 80 05 Epost: l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com Användarsida: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Hannibal Blogg: http://mrchapel.wordpress.com/ Please note that this email adress is used for mailing lists only. Any personal emails will probably grow old before they are read. To reach me more quickly, send your emails to l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com. Thanks. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] A designer? (was: Better user experience and retention through e-mail notifications)
Glad you guys brought this question up as I am working on rewriting one of the things right now. See further discussioner here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Welcome_email All suggestions and tweaks are welcome. Best wishes, Lennart -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, Fellow of the Wikimedia Foundation // Wikimedia Foundation-stipendiat 2011/4/19 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org On 19/04/11 19:38, Milos Rancic wrote: MZMcBride's email about emails reminded me that every automated email from Wikimedia servers looks like a bunch of programming code. The first idea was that it would be better to have some better formatted emails with some more information (for example, I would like to see diff inside of my email when I get notification about changing my talk page). The main problem is that they are plain text instead of HTML. You don't really need a designer to make that change, all our developers know how to use HTML. But, then I've realized that we don't have a designer. By designer I mean a person who is employed by WMF and who is constantly working on improving MediaWiki look and feel. Actually we have two: Brandon Harris and Parul Vora. -- Tim Starling ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness
Sorry for the late reply. Here is the reply I sent a couple of days ago that bounced since I wrote it from my usual email account: Hello, Thanks for reminding me of this thread and specifically for showing me this suggestion, which I hadn't seen. We are actually working on a similar idea. I will post a message about it in about two days' time, as I am currently working on a restructuration of the Bookshelf Project, where I also have some news shortly. Best wishes, Lennart 2011/4/13 Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org On 12 April 2011 12:02, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried editing an article on en:wp on my shiny new BlackBerry 9300. (Which can browse Wikipedia just fine.) It was ridiculously annoying and I'm not sure I'd bother fixing typos I spotted in casual reading. (At least Vector worked in that version of the BlackBerry browser ...) Does anyone here edit any of the WMF wikis, or any other wiki, on their phone much? What's it like, and what's the phone? I edit, infrequently, from my Droid Pro. It's actually not too gruesome, because the whole phone is optimized for text input. (The Pro is the so-called Blackberry killer, the one with the excellent physical keyboard.) It's not fun, due mostly to the small screen size, but it's possible. I do quick time-sensitive wiki-tasks from it and I occasionally fix typos, but I would never attempt a complicated article edit. Stepping back a bit -- for anyone who doesn't know, mobile is a second-level priority for the Wikimedia Foundation right now (behind Rich Text Editor and new editor retention). You can read more here: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Product_Whitepaper. Gist is, we want to support both low-end and high-end phones and connections, and do some experimentation with mobile contribution mechanisms -- minor edits, image uploads, article ratings, and that kind of thing. Basically the kind of thing Quim Gil was talking about, below On 12 April 2011 19:46, Quim Gil quim@nokia.com wrote: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/App_Features__Roadmap * Share this like WikiNews does. * Watch an article - simple way to get readers progressively involved. * Patrol a new article - could be suggested by the app. * Geotag an article - maybe there is a way to offer suggestions. * Assess the relevance / importance of an article - app could suggest * Upload and embed a picture to a page - implementation might be tricky. * Add a comment in the discussion page - rather than applying templates directly. * Let SuggestBot to suggest me a mobile task - (with some fine tuning of the bot this could be a stand-alone mobile app in itself) * Spellchecking - highly automated, engine tbd. Thanks, Sue ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, Fellow of the Wikimedia Foundation // Wikimedia Foundation-stipendiat ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] WikiGuide on Wikisource
Yes, well, the Wikipedia stuff is on the main page that I linked you to. But as I said, I need to reorganize it a little bit more before it's presentable. Best wishes, Lennart 2011/4/7 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com On 6 April 2011 19:50, Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com wrote: In the future, please remember to put any of these on the Bookshelf at http://bookshelf.wikimedia.org. Right now, I am reorganizing it a bit, but it should be looking better in a week or so. So I see. Do the obvious and click on Wikipedia and I get ... a deleted page! - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, Fellow of the Wikimedia Foundation // Wikimedia Foundation-stipendiat ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] WikiGuide on Wikisource
Yes, very good job. In the future, please remember to put any of these on the Bookshelf at http://bookshelf.wikimedia.org. Right now, I am reorganizing it a bit, but it should be looking better in a week or so. Best wishes, Lennart 2011/4/6 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com So cool!!! Thank you Wikimedia Italia :) Phoebe On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: [sorry for cross-posting] Hello everyone. Wikimedia Italia is proud to announce you the release of the new WikiGuide, a video tutorial dedicated to Wikisource. The video, directed by Christian Biasco and produced by WMI, is a seven minutes long presentation of Wikisource projects, aimed to introduce new users into the complex mechanisms of the digital library. This is the third WikiGuide available, after the first on Wikipedia and the second on Commons. The video is available on Commons at the URL http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Italia_-_WikiGuida_3_-_Wikisource.ogv and on Youtube too (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR0g5ACaC-g): it is released in CC-BY-SA. Italian subs are already available online (both on Youtube and Commons) and English subs are being traslated at the moment. We'll post again as soon as we have them (for further translations and internationationalization). Best regards, Andrea Zanni / Aubrey -- Board Wikimedia Italia http://www.wikimedia.it ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- * I use this address for lists; send personal messages to phoebe.ayers at gmail.com * ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, Fellow of the Wikimedia Foundation and chair of Wikimedia Sverige // Wikimedia Foundation-stipendiat och ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Do you want to write pages that thousands of people see every day?
Hello, Just a quick note from the Account Creation Improvement Project: Tomorrow we will start testing the pages that newcomers see once they have created their accounts. So far we have six new versions of the landing pages, but we would very much like your input and your help. You can check out the pages we have already (and make changes to them - and of course, create new ones) here: * Original version - this is the one we have now: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Testing_content/Landing_page/Original_version * Redesign version - http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Testing_content/Landing_page/Redesign * Version based on Polish version - http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Testing_content/Landing_page/Polish_input_box * 'Options' version - http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Testing_content/Landing_page/Options_version * Video version - http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Testing_content/Landing_page/Video_version * Easy steps version - http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Testing_content/Landing_page/Easy_steps_version * Bookshelf version - http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Testing_content/Landing_page/Bookshelf_version If you don't like them, that's fine! In fact, make your own version. We want as many Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians as possible to create their versions and improve the versions we have. Tomorrow, February 21st, we will start testing all these pages live on Wikipedia to see which ones make the newcomers more likely to start editing. And every day thousands of newcomers will see some of these versions. (By the way, if you're not familiar with the Account Creation Improvement Project and what we've done so far, go to http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project for more background.) Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, Fellow of the Wikimedia Foundation and chair of Wikimedia Sverige // Wikimedia Foundation-stipendiat och ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] How should we greet newcomers?
Hello, I know that some of you who are reading this have problems editing any other wiki than your home wiki. It feels foreign. I myself have that problem sometimes. But now you have the chance to do something remarkable. You just have to go to the Outreach wiki to do it. During the next 10 days, you can pitch in as many new versions of the pages that the newcomers see when they get an account. For instance, if you think that the newcomers should be met by a video that explains Wikipedia's policies before they start editing, go ahead and make a page with a video in it! You can add as many different versions as you have the time or inclination to do. And it doesn't have to be perfect, either. We have a design firm that can help us make it look good later on, so you can concentrate on what the text should be. By February 21st, we want at least five versions of the three different pages that we can then do A/B tests on. (More versions are welcome, so do not feel bad if your version becomes nr 6.) This is the link: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Testing_content Please edit those pages as though they were your own wiki. Make yourself at home on the Outreach wiki. You can read more about the Account Creation Improvement Project here: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project Best wishes, Lennart -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, Fellow of the Wikimedia Foundation and chair of Wikimedia Sverige // Wikimedia Foundation-stipendiat och ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] How should we greet newcomers?
Great! Thanks for your input. First off, you can change anything you want. We'll test it and see what works best. So if you want to point new users to the WikiProjects, that perfectly fine. Just start another page, like a subpage to the page I linked to, and create something that you think will be useful. As I understand it, films are fair game. Do not worry about the hosting. There are roughly 5500 people each day that create an account on English Wikipedia. If everyone of them watch a movie, that's not very much in the grand scheme of Wikipedia. Especially if we consider the beneficial impact that video potentially could have. And if we see that videos are much better at educating newcomers and creating faithful Wikipedians than just text, we would be wrong to at least not entertain the idea of using videos and come up with a plan to make it work. Best wishes, Lennart 2011/2/11 Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com Hi Lennart Would this be related to merely modifying the welcome template or something a little more encompassing? One idea that I had was to somehow refer new visitors to WikiProjects or articles in need of expansion, based on some selection option where they can select their field of expertise or interest. An easy way to implement it would be providing an option to assign Categories to new users themselves, we would only need a front end with an attractive UI. We refer them through the welcome template to get started on what they like, they are referred to a tool which gives them several options from languages to fields to hobbies all based on categories and as they select those the categories are added to their user-page. The tool refers them at the end to WikiProjects and listed open tasks based on those selections.Its a similar option to what yahoo, hotmail used to have, options to select field of interests which they would use to for future marketing opportunities. Similar to that, just in a non-spammy, helpful way. I don't think embedding a video would be a feasible option, it might get very resource intensive to host and implement. I have added my suggestion to the outreach wiki, I was wondering if anyone else had any thoughts related to it. Theo On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I know that some of you who are reading this have problems editing any other wiki than your home wiki. It feels foreign. I myself have that problem sometimes. But now you have the chance to do something remarkable. You just have to go to the Outreach wiki to do it. During the next 10 days, you can pitch in as many new versions of the pages that the newcomers see when they get an account. For instance, if you think that the newcomers should be met by a video that explains Wikipedia's policies before they start editing, go ahead and make a page with a video in it! You can add as many different versions as you have the time or inclination to do. And it doesn't have to be perfect, either. We have a design firm that can help us make it look good later on, so you can concentrate on what the text should be. By February 21st, we want at least five versions of the three different pages that we can then do A/B tests on. (More versions are welcome, so do not feel bad if your version becomes nr 6.) This is the link: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Testing_content Please edit those pages as though they were your own wiki. Make yourself at home on the Outreach wiki. You can read more about the Account Creation Improvement Project here: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project Best wishes, Lennart -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, Fellow of the Wikimedia Foundation and chair of Wikimedia Sverige // Wikimedia Foundation-stipendiat och ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, Fellow of the Wikimedia Foundation and chair of Wikimedia Sverige // Wikimedia Foundation-stipendiat och ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Why do new users create their accounts?
[Sorry for crossposting this.] Hello, As some of you know, I am doing some work to improve the account creation process. To better understand what we need to change, we asked new users in two very short surveys about why they created their accounts. See the exciting results here: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Account_Creation_Improvement_Project#The_results_of_the_Account_Creation_surveys.2C_part_3 We are soon going to start experimenting on various language versions of Wikipedia, to try to find the best possible solution that increases the likelihood that the reader becomes an editor and that they understand what they are getting when they create an account. Do you want to help us? Great! We need volunteers for ideas and translation, among other things. Sign up here: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project/Sign_up, or send an email to lenn...@wikimedia.org (I only use this email adress for mailinglists so any answers to this adresss will get lost. Sorry.) Best wishes, Lennart -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, fellow of the Wikimedia Foundation, chair of Wikimedia Sverige // Wikimedia Foundation-stipendiat, ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [SPAM] Re: Old Wikipedia backups discovered
This discovery is so great! Good work, Tim. Perhaps we could make a book with the first pages as a souvenir. /Lennart 2010/12/15 Marcus Buck m...@marcusbuck.org An'n 15.12.2010 01:36, hett Brian J Mingus schreven: http://grey.colorado.edu/wikipedia_2001/979773872.txt Nice to see that the quality of posts on the mailing lists was low and discussions lame and rapidly off-topicking since ... the very first day! ;-) Marcus Buck User:Slomox ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation switching to Google Apps?
Hello, While I recognise that most of us use free software as much as we can, one element that haven't been brought up in this thread yet is the matter of time. Some FLOSS solution simply take more time than proprietary ones, and I know for a fact that the tech team have s much things to do that we should a) give them a break if they investigate a matter properly (which they seem to have done here) and decide that a proprietary solution will have to do for now, and b) try to help them as much as we can, by solving problems they haven't time to solve themselves. Let's therefore close this thread and move on to more important things. Best wishes, Lennart 2010/10/27 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org 2010/10/27 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: Let's not get carried away here. I am always interested to seeing alternatives to the tools I use myself and I'm willing to dig through some not-so-clear notes or whatever to find information, if that spares me some testing time. That was the sole reason I insisted for the release of the information. As I mentioned further upthread, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FLOSS_Exchange is intended as a public home for documentation. I'd love to see subpages in future for experiences of individual Wikimedia organizations with specific software, including go-or-no-go decisions on FLOSS solutions. We'll grow develop this stuff as we find time. Feel free to capture some of the information from this thread on that page or otherwise help make it more useful. -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] How to improve quality of Wikipedia?
Hello, This whole thread is interesting. You can work side by side with someone for several years and not know that the Wikipedia next door delete talk pages where the question is resolved. Anyway, I published an essay about raising quality on the Swedish Wikipedia a couple of years ago, which may have some bearing on this issue. It was written in Swedish but since most of you don't speak Swedish, it was translated into English here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Sverige/Lennart_thoughts_of_Quality Another essay, this time about users, can be read here (Google translated only so far): http://translate.google.se/translate?js=nprev=_thl=svie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1sl=svtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fsv.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAnv%25C3%25A4ndare%3AHannibal%2FTio_tankar_om_anv%25C3%25A4ndare Best wishes, Lennart 2010/10/11 Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com Przykuta, 11/10/2010 09:27: Huh. Yes, but when bot welcome newbie, he can't help this user. Bots usually add a random signature from a list of experienced users willing to help. Nemo ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Increasing the number of new accounts who actually edit
Hello, Did you know that less than a third of the users who create an account on English Wikipedia make even *one* edit afterwards? Two-thirds of all new accounts never edit! Interestingly, this percentage vary very much from language version to language version. Now, the question is not: what can we do about it? We know plenty of things that we *could* do. The question is this: what are the easiest levers to push that increase the numbers? We have a couple of ideas (they are presented on the Outreach wiki, at http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Account_Creation_Improvement_Project), but we need your help! Here are three easy things that you can do: 1. Offer ideas 2. Sign up to help with the project 3. Spread the word. Do you know anybody who would want to be interested in helping out? Pass this message on. Best wishes, Lennart -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Why do you contribute to Wikipedia?
Hello, Right now we in the Bookshelf Project are preparing a number of booklets and brochures and you are welcome to participate in the work. We look forward to any comments you may have to any of our deliverables: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf_Project#Deliverables One of the easiest pages to begin with is the one called Ten reasons to contribute to Wikipedia ( http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ten_reasons_to_contribute_to_Wikipedia_%28Bookshelf%29). The people who are producing these materials have their reasons, but we would like a broader sample of reasons. We would, in short, like to hear your reason. So think for a minute about why you contribute to Wikipedia and add your reasons to the Outreach wiki. Don't feel you have to stop when and if we should hit ten. We can always sort out those reasons later. The deadline for the Bookshelf deliverables is pretty short, since the entire project ends (?) at the end of September, so please be quick. Best wishes, Lennart -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Swedish Wikipedians removes Wikimedia logos
Hello, After a long and tiring discussion on the Swedish Wikipedia Village Pump ( http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bybrunnen#Wikimedialoggor_i_artiklar), the logos of the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been deemed unfree (since they are copyrighted) and have since been removed from the article namespace, for example in links to the sister project, such as the template linking to Commons: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall:Commons, but also the article about Wikipedia itself has no logo ( http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia). I have been in contact with Mike Godwin, and got the response that the unfree logos can be used, as I had suspected. But a growing number of Swedish Wikipedians felt that the Wikimedia Foundation shouldn't follow any other rules than other organisations whose logos are copyrighted. The argument was that we shouldn't use images that any third-party user cannot use in the same fashion. The changes were implemented, although there was not a clear consensus to do so. I myself was opposed to this, citing from several emails from Mike Godwin. My viewpoint is that if we cannot even use our own logos in our own articles, something is very wrong. I also argued that we will not gain anything by removing these logos - as this is a non-issue for most ordinary users of Wikipedia. Anyways, I just wanted to hear if anybody else have had encountered this topic and how the matter was resolved. Is Swedish Wikipedia the first language version to not include the Wikimedia Foundation's logos? Do any of you find this discussion strange? Or are Swedish Wikipedia just ahead of the curve? Best wishes, Lennart -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Whither, video tutorials?
Well, perhaps my hopes were set too high. I quite liked the look and feel of the videos, but some of the dialogue were not quite as inspired as I had hoped. Perhaps that will be fixed in further videos. Thanks for the link to the strategy pages. /Lennart 2009/12/7 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wikihanni...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the information, Lennart. The films were ready by some time in the spring of 2009, I guess, and Wikimedia Sverige showed them to a mildly impressed audience at our AGM. There was no premiere or big news item about it and the whole thing went almost unnoticed. Perhaps the idea was flawed, or the execution, or the process, but either way, the films was not a success by any measure. Oh dear, it sounds like you're a little downhearted by the affair. But I enjoyed them. I guess it's fair to say that I'm a pretty committed Wikipedian, though, and the videos weren't really aimed at me. But this wasn't the whole truth. All in all, if memory serves, there was talk about a further dozen or so further films. The further films was intended to deal with the various other questions that the audience may have: reverts, NPOV, the principles, copyright, and so on. Perhaps this is a project that the Bookshelf will take care of, or maybe this is something that is better done by amateurs on YouTube? There's been some talk on the Strategy wiki and it's clear that some people are quite keen on further video content: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tutorials I hope you don't feel crestfallen by the videos. I liked them! ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Whither, video tutorials?
Hello, As one of the screenwriters for these videos I believe I can shed at least some light on the process. Frank Schulenburg, Wikimedia Foundation's Public Outreach guy, then VP of Wikimedia Deutschland may have more details for you. Anyway, Wikimedia Deutschland started the process around the end of 2007 by going to the company Living Colour, with the plans of rolling out a whole series of films, mainly but not exclusively directed towards the parts of the population that don't already edit Wikipedia (women and seniors). The goal was of course to inspire them to be bold. Since I am a screenwriter IRL I was very interested in this project and volunteered. I wrote two first drafts but was unable to participate in the shooting where some of the dialogue was rewritten (it always is). The films were ready by some time in the spring of 2009, I guess, and Wikimedia Sverige showed them to a mildly impressed audience at our AGM. There was no premiere or big news item about it and the whole thing went almost unnoticed. Perhaps the idea was flawed, or the execution, or the process, but either way, the films was not a success by any measure. But this wasn't the whole truth. All in all, if memory serves, there was talk about a further dozen or so further films. The further films was intended to deal with the various other questions that the audience may have: reverts, NPOV, the principles, copyright, and so on. Perhaps this is a project that the Bookshelf will take care of, or maybe this is something that is better done by amateurs on YouTube? I have seen some YouTube videos that explain some things in a fairly good manner, for example Bill Wiedemeyer's videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/BillWedemeyer Best wishes, /Lennart -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia 2009/12/5 Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.com Thank you for the links. I wonder if these are the only two videos? In general, I am afraid that the videos reflect an older concept of Wikipedia training that underlines the easyness of editing. The risk is that people indeed come and edit in the faith that they should feel free to try out editing ; if something goes wrong another editor fixes it, if someone tries to rewrite history, another editor sets it right. Instead, there should be much more warnings about what is accepted or not, that wrong editing can get you harsh comments, that you eventually can be banned. Our problem is not getting new people but keeping them. Kind regards Ziko 2009/12/4 Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: They're very good. But the sound, for me, is *very* out of synch... by quite a number of minutes. Anyone else find that? Sorry, I meant *seconds*. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Ziko van Dijk NL-Silvolde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] $500, 000 operational support from Hewlett Foundation
Good work and kudos to the Hewletts. /Lennart 2009/8/21 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com 2009/8/21 Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org: The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation has decided to generously support us with $500,000 in operational funding. More information in the press release: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Hewlwett_Fdn_grant_August_2009 This is not a project-based grant like the Stanton and Ford initiatives, but designed to advance the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation as a whole. We're very grateful to Hewlett for their support! :-) It comes out of Hewlett's Open Educational Resources initiative, which is an acknowledgment that Wikimedia is an important part of the OER movement. Big thanks to Sara Crouse for her work on the proposal that led to this grant. Congratulations! That is really good news. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] [Slashdot] Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad
2009/7/20 K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au Why the Photos On Wikipedia Are So Bad --- Recent photographs on Wikipedia are almost exclusively the work of amateurs who don't mind giving away their work. 'Amateur may be too kind a word; their photos tend to be the work of fans who happen to have a camera,' opines the Times's author. Ultimately the issue for professional photographers who might want to donate their work is copyright. 'To me the problem is the Wikipedia rule of public use,' says Jerry Avenaim, a celebrity photographer. 'If they truly wanted to elevate the image on the site, they should allow photographers to maintain the copyright.' [1]. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/20/arts/20funny.html [2]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_use_policy [3]. http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/07/20/0044240/Why-the-Photos-On-Wikipedia-Are-So-Bad ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l And if we truly wanted to elevate the text on the site, we should allow *writers* to maintain the copyright? This is, I am sorry to say, sloppy thinking. The images have been improved greatly, but that is not as visible as on the text side - one minute there is no picture, the next one there is a bad one, and the next minute there is a better one, and soon somebody comes along and uploads a truly great one. It takes a little bit more time, because it's a bit harder to contribute a picture than it is to contribute with proofreading or fact checking - you actually have to meet the person you want to portrait or go to the geographical area you want to show. But improvement is certainly on the way - and I am confident that this trend will improve as a) more amateurs have a chance to meet celebrities (statistically, even blind chicken find their food...), b) Commons becomes better known, and c) chapters can learn from each other how to get museums and archives to donate their pictures. Best wishes, -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Announcement: New Chief Program Office: Jennifer Riggs
Welcome Jennifer. We look forward to work with you. /Lennart 2009/4/15 Mike.lifeguard mikelifegu...@fastmail.fm Welcome, Jennifer! Congratulations to the hiring committee as well for carrying out a successful hiring process. While the Foundation is expanding, I think this and other recent hirings show there's no loss of focus on the power behind the projects, which is the massive base of volunteer contributors, and that enabling them is key to continued success. Thanks, -Mike On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 19:17 -0700, Sue Gardner wrote: Hello folks, I am delighted to announce that this week, Jennifer Riggs begins work as the Wikimedia Foundation's first-ever Chief Program Officer. She will report to me. Frank Schulenburg, Jay Walsh and Cary Bass now report to Jennifer: as CPO, she is responsible for all non-technical program activities such as volunteer recruitment and public outreach. As you probably know, we've been searching for a CPO since last fall. Because this is a new and important position for us, we deliberately decided to allow a large pool of candidates to accumulate over several months. We wanted to build in time to think seriously about our needs while meeting with a wide range of people. Since October, we received applications from more than 150 people with a diverse array of backgrounds including media, academia, the public school system, non-profits, the free software movement and the business world. As we carried out the interviewing process, the hiring committee came to the understanding that Wikimedia is, at its heart, a volunteer-centred organization -- and that what we need most in a CPO is a rich background in facilitating, structuring and supporting the work of volunteers. Enter, Jennifer! Jennifer comes to Wikimedia from the American Red Cross Bay Area chapter, where, as Manager of Volunteer Resources, she managed the work of more than a thousand volunteers. Prior to the Red Cross, she was Project Director at the non-profit California School-Age Consortium, where she ran a program of train-the-trainer workshops. Before that, she worked for six years in program administration at the Peace Corps, as a Country Desk Office on the Central America Desk, a Country Desk Assistant on the Pacific Islands Desk, and a Training and Technical Coordinator in Togo, West Africa. Jennifer speaks French, Sango and some Spanish. She has a B.A. in History with minors in Education and Political Science from New York University. We know that the success of the Wikimedia projects depends upon the 150,000 active volunteers who are our core contributors. Jennifer's wealth of experience recruiting, motivating and retaining volunteers will be enormously useful to us as we aim to better support the volunteers we currently have, and also reach out to new people. Please join me in warmly welcoming her to the Wikimedia Foundation. I want to take a moment also to thank Erik Moeller, Michael Snow and Kat Walsh for participating on the hiring committee. This was an important decision, and their experiences and advice were really helpful throughout the process. Thanks, Sue ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Commons and The Year of the Picture
2009/1/28 Sam Johnston s...@samj.net 1. Upload high-resolution copyrighted image littered with trademarks as anonymous user. 2. Immediately order poster of said image. 3. File against WMF, its chapter(s) and the printer for good measure claiming [RI|MP]AA sized damages for copyright and trademark infringement, submitting said poster(s) and invoice(s) as evidence. 4. ??? 5. Profit! But this is not that different from an anonymous user writing something illegal on Wikipedia, make a screenshot of it, and then blaming Wikipedia for having illegal material, is it? Best wishes, Lennart -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Moving towards a more usable MediaWiki
Hello, I was recently at a conference for Swedish information specialists (yes, I had a talk there). There I met a woman who taught at a university. The subject: information architecture. They had groups of students improving the websites of several well known Swedish companies and organisations. Now, they were seeking new websites to improve. We talked about them getting to work on Wikipedia (of course without any commitments or strings attached) and will continue to see if this is a feasible project. I will update this thread as soon as I know more, but we should try everything we can to make the threshold of Wikipedia and MediaWiki as low as possible. Best wishes, Lennart -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia 2008/12/2 Gerard Meijssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hoi, You do not create a new article by finding the edit button. The task all these people failed at was creating a whole new article. Thanks, GerardM 2008/12/2 Ilario Valdelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Gerard Meijssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hoi, Over the last weeks I have been rather active in promoting improved usability for the MediaWiki software. What really got me going was learning from a Wikimania presentation that a UNICEF usability study done in Tanzania showed that 100% of the test subjects were unable to create a new article. UNICEF has created extensions to improve on this, extensions that make a difference. The fact that our usability is poor does not only hurt what some call minority languages. A professor in Austria I know, a veteran user of software, was also hard pressed to collaborate on a wiki. The problem for usability is that sometime there is not a better selection of users to have a real sampling. Naturally if this sampling is formed by users with a poor or no knowledge of computers, probably they will not have problems with Wikipedia because they would not able to switch on a computer. The usability, in this case is the minor problem. Probably is better to know if they were not able to use the edit button because the edit button is not usable or if they were not able because they don't have seen an edit button in the past. Ilario ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Wikipedia Academy Lund
Hello, Now, the Wikipedia Academy in Lund has ended. A big success, as the number of participants was double the number we had anticipated. The entire conference was covered by three bloggers, collected here: http://wikipediaacademy.blogspot.com/ (Swedish, but translatable for example via Google), where there also are some pictures. Soon, some of the lectures will be uploaded there as well. More info will also be published here, as soon as I can catch my breath a little: it has been three hectic days for me and the rest of the team of volunteers, but the main work was carried out by professionals from the Lund University Library who collected a splendid list of speakers, including one who spoke on inclusionism/exclusionism, two who spoke on source criticism, two who spoke on the legal aspects of Wikipedia, and several others. This was also the release of the *new* version of Så fungerar Wikipedia (roughly How Wikipedia Works, but not the book by the three english-speaking Wikipedians, but by me), published by a real publishing house and not Print-on-demand. A total of 46 copies were sold, including copies to all the speakers. This means that the book from now on will be sold through regular channels such as Swedish internet bookshops and ordinary book shops. It is already listed in the official library catalogue. Best wishes, -- Lennart Guldbrandsson, chair of Wikimedia Sverige and press contact for Swedish Wikipedia // ordförande för Wikimedia Sverige och presskontakt för svenskspråkiga Wikipedia ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
