Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Peter Gervai wrote: > Are you aware of the fact that it's been used in non-English > wikipedias for years? And it's been quite a successful feature. > > YMMV. > grin > > Are you aware it's been used on enwikibooks too? And has been quite a failure there? YMMV. - -Mike -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuNnGoACgkQst0AR/DaKHuyrwCfb4Y6NCUTs8/bkZaQEIsbkMHo 5HEAn3x8hjl/aq42SyQU20QP6hghTEuH =H03g -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Alex wrote: > Why > this wasn't done before it was deployed on dewiki or anywhere else, I > don't know Because only enwiki matters? - -Mike -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuMb5sACgkQst0AR/DaKHvBbwCghhWGVoE/7QRtMVfi8DgnYpHR IekAniABDktu11GXkktAfxv1dhqGN6ss =DBj3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?
On 1 March 2010 04:18, Aphaia wrote: > Not a sarcasm, but I would like to point out SUL, single user login > took years to implement to the project wikis, and we even called once > it "Godot". FlaggedRevs implementation also - it took years to > realize. Months are relatively shorter, and I hope you guys could wait > for in a less pain. Rather more that months but that's beside the point. SUL was being worked on by guys who we knew were doing other stuff and that other stuff was stuff we could see. FlaggedRevs not so much. -- geni ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Alex wrote: > The English Wikipedia isn't asking for a total rewrite of the extension. > FlaggedRevs was always (at least since it was first deployed) highly > customizable. I believe the "Flagged Protection" feature was able to be > implemented, or very close to it..snip... No, the en.wiki community decided/voted that it wanted the Flagged Protection (selected articles) compared to Flagged Revisions (all articles) for it's implementation and that wasn't available so it got/is being worked on to allow that, although as you did state, i believe they are onto the UI section now. -Peachey ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?
The English Wikipedia isn't asking for a total rewrite of the extension. FlaggedRevs was always (at least since it was first deployed) highly customizable. I believe the "Flagged Protection" feature was able to be implemented, or very close to it, at the time the proposal was finalized. Supposedly the changes being made now are mostly UI and workflow changes to make it easier to use or something like that. (Why this wasn't done before it was deployed on dewiki or anywhere else, I don't know) Its not like enwiki deciding to use FlaggedRevs was a total surprise. Erik had always assumed that enwiki would get it eventually, why did the foundation wait until 6 months /after/ enwiki requested it to hire people to work on this? -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) On 3/1/2010 7:58 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > One of the things developers are not necessarily good at is communication as > in keeping everyone up to date. With the many channels secret and not so > secret. With the ferocity that many say typify the mailing lists, it is no > wonder that we hear few if any updates. > > In my opinion the reason why the English language Wikipedia does not have > Flagged Revisions already is because they did not want the fully functional > Flagged Revisions that is used for some years now on the German language > Wikipedia. Wanting something different is its prerogative but it does not > follow that it is easy or quick. Remember the 80/20 rule and remember that > the special wishes makes the software more complicated. > > The English language Wikipedia is also spoiled because it gets the things > programmed. When you consider that many of the issues with RTL languages and > font issues like with the Malayalam language get hardly the attention they > require, it is rather obvious that tantrums prevent information becoming > available on the public mailinglists. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 1 March 2010 13:18, Casey Brown wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Aphaia wrote: >>> Not a sarcasm, but I would like to point out SUL, single user login >>> took years to implement to the project wikis, and we even called once >>> it "Godot". FlaggedRevs implementation also - it took years to >>> realize. Months are relatively shorter, and I hope you guys could wait >>> for in a less pain. >>> >> >> Yes, but no one was contracted for work on SUL. People are being paid >> to work on *just* FlaggedRevs, it's not something that the tech team >> has to fit into their time to develop. >> >> -- >> Casey Brown >> Cbrown1023 >> >> ___ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l >> > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?
Hoi, One of the things developers are not necessarily good at is communication as in keeping everyone up to date. With the many channels secret and not so secret. With the ferocity that many say typify the mailing lists, it is no wonder that we hear few if any updates. In my opinion the reason why the English language Wikipedia does not have Flagged Revisions already is because they did not want the fully functional Flagged Revisions that is used for some years now on the German language Wikipedia. Wanting something different is its prerogative but it does not follow that it is easy or quick. Remember the 80/20 rule and remember that the special wishes makes the software more complicated. The English language Wikipedia is also spoiled because it gets the things programmed. When you consider that many of the issues with RTL languages and font issues like with the Malayalam language get hardly the attention they require, it is rather obvious that tantrums prevent information becoming available on the public mailinglists. Thanks, GerardM On 1 March 2010 13:18, Casey Brown wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Aphaia wrote: > > Not a sarcasm, but I would like to point out SUL, single user login > > took years to implement to the project wikis, and we even called once > > it "Godot". FlaggedRevs implementation also - it took years to > > realize. Months are relatively shorter, and I hope you guys could wait > > for in a less pain. > > > > Yes, but no one was contracted for work on SUL. People are being paid > to work on *just* FlaggedRevs, it's not something that the tech team > has to fit into their time to develop. > > -- > Casey Brown > Cbrown1023 > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Aphaia wrote: > Not a sarcasm, but I would like to point out SUL, single user login > took years to implement to the project wikis, and we even called once > it "Godot". FlaggedRevs implementation also - it took years to > realize. Months are relatively shorter, and I hope you guys could wait > for in a less pain. > Yes, but no one was contracted for work on SUL. People are being paid to work on *just* FlaggedRevs, it's not something that the tech team has to fit into their time to develop. -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote: > I've reported when I thought I had something to report I think the problem here is that you haven't reported any accomplishments because there haven't been any. Perhaps you're actually saying that the work done so far is great and wonderful and massive in quantity, but isn't the sort of thing people care to hear about? If that's the case, I think this thread clearly cries out for people to hear what you've been doing. - -Mike -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuLUl0ACgkQst0AR/DaKHtUywCdGBtpYun9ILUDrxItIk5ac3Ou ZPcAoNarKmSAfUrOdtUAn2Y8/fvcJi8B =V3qu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?
Not a sarcasm, but I would like to point out SUL, single user login took years to implement to the project wikis, and we even called once it "Godot". FlaggedRevs implementation also - it took years to realize. Months are relatively shorter, and I hope you guys could wait for in a less pain. On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Mike.lifeguard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote: >> The thing we're working on right now is moving flaggedrevs.labs to >> different hardware. > > OK, but hasn't it been *months*?! Isn't there a dedicated team for this > rollout?! What work are they actually doing? What relevant SVN commits > from this team have I missed? > > - -Mike > > PS: FWIW, I agree that hiding your progress tracker on a third-party > site that sucks pretty bad is not helpful. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkuLPjoACgkQst0AR/DaKHt+gwCgo8dVyxHBALMY3Ppxb5w0GZ8x > eLoAn3tE56CX3tpCUUctqKwibmsgGc8h > =gkOb > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > -- KIZU Naoko http://d.hatena.ne.jp/Britty (in Japanese) Quote of the Day (English): http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/WQ:QOTD ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote: > The thing we're working on right now is moving flaggedrevs.labs to > different hardware. OK, but hasn't it been *months*?! Isn't there a dedicated team for this rollout?! What work are they actually doing? What relevant SVN commits from this team have I missed? - -Mike PS: FWIW, I agree that hiding your progress tracker on a third-party site that sucks pretty bad is not helpful. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkuLPjoACgkQst0AR/DaKHt+gwCgo8dVyxHBALMY3Ppxb5w0GZ8x eLoAn3tE56CX3tpCUUctqKwibmsgGc8h =gkOb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
