Re: [Foundation-l] Board elections email adding insult to injury
Philippe Beaudette wrote: On Aug 9, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: Things started going wrong when the election committee didn't organize itself in time. I should point out, though, that the committee does not organize itself. It responds to a call from the Board of Trustees. Fair enough, but that doesn't make things look good for the Board. Perhaps then a small core of the Election Committee should operate as a standing committee between elections, ready to act when necessary. When the time comes it would have the power to recruit whatever additional manpower it needs. Ec ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Board elections email adding insult to injury
Presumably the duties of an election committee don't need to terminate with the end of this election? To the extent that organizing actions can be taken ahead of the next cycle, perhaps they should be appended as the final responsibilities of the committee for this cycle. Set up the new pages, create and translate any messages that aren't candidate specific (date specific can be done now and updated later), etc. Nathan ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
[Foundation-l] Board elections email adding insult to injury
I have just received an email that I am elligable to vote in the board elections. While I am inelligeble as I am blocked on the nl.wikipedia since 3 months already. This ads insult to injury. As I was blocked on request of a sockpupeteer whom is now blocked himself together with multiple other accounts. As 3 months ago the arbcom said it accepted the case regarding my block. The blocking mod did it without community consensus and is a part of the arbcom himself (which explains why it is taking them 3 months already) In every case the Dutch arbcom emails the person and asks them for their side of the story. In 3 months NO member of the Dutch arbcom has even bothered to mail me. They have only asked their blocking fellow arbcom member for a statement!! How do you mean this is rigging things? My block was doubled because when checking another account it was claimed it was me while it wasn't obviously 500.000 Thai internetters behind the same IP range will give problems and any Thai IP seems to be me in the logic of the mods. According to the wikimedia foundations rules someone whom is blocked is not allowed to vote. So why I was send this mail it bothers me. It is insulting me on top of this block about nothing as I never performed vandalism or endangered the encyclopedia. I merely pointed out that one of the anonymous moderators in reality is not whom he claims he is and is writing articles about himself and familymembers. This while he is blocking other people who do the same and have the honesty to admit it. And is also aggressively pursuing this stance on the deletion lists. Thus this mod is a hypocrite, doing what he haunts others for. But me telling this to the community was a blockable offence it seems. Waerth ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Board elections email adding insult to injury
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Waerth wae...@asianet.co.th wrote: According to the wikimedia foundations rules someone whom is blocked is not allowed to vote. You are not eligible to vote on nlwp, but on other wikis you may be eligible, so that is why you received the email I guess? [[User:Bencmq]] -- Without friends no one would choose to live, though he had all other goods. ~ Aristotle ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Board elections email adding insult to injury
Chen Minqi wrote: On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Waerth wae...@asianet.co.th wrote: According to the wikimedia foundations rules someone whom is blocked is not allowed to vote. You are not eligible to vote on nlwp, but on other wikis you may be eligible, so that is why you received the email I guess? Nope because I wouldn't qualify according to other subrules W ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Board elections email adding insult to injury
Maybe this is related? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum#Unable_to_vote_in_trustees_election I don't want to seem rude, as I'm sure it's difficult and I understand the election committee are volunteers, but why is it that things seem to be going wrong this year? -- Alex (User:Majorly) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Board elections email adding insult to injury
Hoi, The things that go wrong are not necessarily the same things that go wrong. Yes things go wrong.. There are more things that could and should have gone differently... Nobody heard the Wikivoices interviews with many of the candidates for instance. Sadly it did not materialise but it could have made a difference for many voters. I participated because of the potential of it. Yes, the mails went out late and extra work will be needed to weed out the bots BUT when more people voted as a result, when everyone was approached who was eligible to vote it has been a good thing. To the people who considered the invitation to vote SPAM, I have one message, you can opt out and if that is not good enough, tough. Thanks, GerardM 2009/8/9 Al Tally majorly.w...@googlemail.com Maybe this is related? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum#Unable_to_vote_in_trustees_election I don't want to seem rude, as I'm sure it's difficult and I understand the election committee are volunteers, but why is it that things seem to be going wrong this year? -- Alex (User:Majorly) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
Re: [Foundation-l] Board elections email adding insult to injury
On Aug 9, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote: Al Tally wrote: I don't want to seem rude, as I'm sure it's difficult and I understand the election committee are volunteers, but why is it that things seem to be going wrong this year? Things started going wrong when the election committee didn't organize itself in time. It knew more than a year ago that one or more individuals would need to be elected this year. It knew when Wikimania would be held (the latest dates ever). Because of the late Wikimania, following last year's timetable would have given them even more time to get it together than last year. It would not have needed to foreshorten the voting period. What it needs to do soon is to establish a firm timetable for future elections. With no elections scheduled for two years this should not be difficult. There is even plenty of time to do this earlier to be able to deal with any vacancy that may arise. Ec I agree. I also suggest that the committee may be too small. There are simply a huge number of details involved, and a larger committee may be a better system. Philippe ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
